Question about the Army..

[SilvioDante]

I see a lot of pictures and post all over the internet say how George Bush should send his daughters over to fight. Only then will some support the war. Well, I have one question.... How many soldiers over in Iraq right now were drafted????

It seems to me that the soldiers and parents of said are complaining that they have to own up to their end of the deal. Oh sure, they volunteered to get the free college, the tax free DVD's at the PX and the 10% at Taco Bell, all just for being in the army. But when push came to shove and the Army asked them to do what they enlised for, now the Army is wrong.

And, no, I am or was not in the military, because I KNEW that someday someone might try to shoot my ass. I do personally know several i Iraq, all happy to do their duty!!

GOD BLESS ALL THE FINE SOLDIERS IN HARMS WAY. COME HOME SAFE AND SOON!!!!!

[Phil theStalker]

Re: Question about the Army..

Originally posted by SilvioDante
I see a lot of pictures and post all over the internet say how George Bush should send his daughters over to fight. Only then will some support the war. Well, I have one question.... How many soldiers over in Iraq right now were drafted????

It seems to me that the soldiers and parents of said are complaining that they have to own up to their end of the deal. Oh sure, they volunteered to get the free college, the tax free DVD's at the PX and the 10% at Taco Bell, all just for being in the army. But when push came to shove and the Army asked them to do what they enlised for, now the Army is wrong.

Thanks for jumping into this forum, SD. Nobody here has ever said the Army is wrong. Nobody.

The people here say the President is wrong (or they say he's right). The people don't say the army is right or wrong. The army, the whole military, is only following orders from GEORGE BUSH, supra-asshole!

Do you see that there is a BIG difference in what you claim using your wording about the army?

Watchout what you blame on the army. The army may takeover the White House and the entire U.S. government in a coup. That would be wrong, but it's the only thing the army can do when the people are useless to preserve their own constitution of rights against a global civilian group of military industrialists (Halliburton, Bechtel, the Carlye group, GE, and the rest old and new), a small cabal of maniacs.

[FORD]

It's not so much that "the Army is wrong" as it is the Army is being used wrong.

The military forces of the United States of America exist for the purpose of defending the United States of America.

Any other use for them is wrong. That includes Vietnam & Korea, but the current example is even worse. At least those wrong wars had the possibility, far fetched though it was, of the "commies trying to take over the world".

They can't even claim that for this Iraq mess. Instead, it's just been a series of lies. Fictional weapons. Fictional ties to semi-fictional terrorists. Fictional threats.

All from a fictional president.

[Nickdfresh]

Forty-percent of all forces in IRAQ are Nat'l GUARDSMEN ans Reservists. Those people did not join up to be used as active duty, full-time troops. Many careers have been ruined as a result of this.

[Kelly_Clark]

And it hasn't done much for gas prices either.

I realize people just like to complain... but I don't understand why they want to take it out on the daughters. They could instead bring up Bush's own service (***cough***) in the military.

Support your troops. They don't make the choices, they suffer the consequences.

[Phil theStalker]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Forty-percent of all forces in IRAQ are Nat'l GUARDSMEN ans Reservists. Those people did not join up to be used as active duty, full-time troops. Many careers have been ruined as a result of this.

Death has a way of killing a career.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I won't speak for the others here that have done military time...

But let me say my peace, from someone who did exactly 20 years and 9 days in the military...

The VAST majority of military people who you'll run into have absolutely no problem with deploying into a combat area of operations if the need arises...

The first Iraq war, in which Iraq invaded a soverign country, was such a need...

Humanitarian deployments are another....

HOWEVER, what we do have a problem with is being deployed for the wrong reason...

And that "wrong reason" could mean several things, not necessarily talking strictly about the Iraq war...

[DrMaddVibe]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Forty-percent of all forces in IRAQ are Nat'l GUARDSMEN ans Reservists. Those people did not join up to be used as active duty, full-time troops. Many careers have been ruined as a result of this.

They knew they MIGHT be though!

That doesn't wash and it didn't back when either!

[Warham]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Forty-percent of all forces in IRAQ are Nat'l GUARDSMEN ans Reservists. Those people did not join up to be used as active duty, full-time troops. Many careers have been ruined as a result of this.

About 33% of those who served in Vietnam were drafted.

[FORD]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
They knew they MIGHT be though!

That doesn't wash and it didn't back when either!

When was the last time the National Guard was deployed overseas? Certainly not in Vietnam. If there were any risk of that, Chimpy and Quayle would have never used it as a draft dodging strategy.

In fact sometimes I wonder if the BCE didn't send the National Guard over to Iraq just to make Junior's own "service" seem retroactively more relevant.

One thing's for sure though... The Louisiana and Mississippi National Guards would be much better utilized at home right now.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by FORD
One thing's for sure though... The Louisiana and Mississippi National Guards would be much better utilized at home right now.

Good point.


Warham, nice avatar.

[Warham]

There's 6,000 National Guardsmen down in that area. They said they have enough. We'll see.

[DrMaddVibe]

Originally posted by FORD
When was the last time the National Guard was deployed overseas? Certainly not in Vietnam. If there were any risk of that, Chimpy and Quayle would have never used it as a draft dodging strategy.

In fact sometimes I wonder if the BCE didn't send the National Guard over to Iraq just to make Junior's own "service" seem retroactively more relevant.

One thing's for sure though... The Louisiana and Mississippi National Guards would be much better utilized at home right now.

When did YOU serve again?

STFU!

[Warham]

I like how the Dems attack Bush's and Quayle's honorable service, but when you mention Bill Clinton's REAL draft dodging, the conversation changes to how he nobly rallied against the war over in England.

Sure.

[Hardrock69]

What honorable service by Bush?