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  • frets5150
    Commando
    • Feb 2004
    • 1461

    Anger and Unrest Mount in Desperate New Orleans

    Anger and Unrest Mount in Desperate New Orleans


    By ADAM NOSSITER, AP
    NEW ORLEANS (Sept. 1) - Fights and trash fires broke out, rescue helicopters were shot at and anger mounted across New Orleans on Thursday, as National Guardsmen in armored vehicles poured in to help restore order across this increasingly desperate and lawless city.

    "We are out here like pure animals. We don't have help," the Rev. Issac Clark, 68, said outside the New Orleans Convention Center, where corpses lay in the open and evacuees complained that they were dropped off and given nothing.

    An additional 10,000 National Guardsman from across the country were ordered into the hurricane-ravaged Gulf Coast to shore up security, rescue and relief operations in Katrina's wake as looting, shootings, gunfire, carjackings spread and food and water ran out.

    But some Federal Emergency Management rescue operations were suspended in areas where gunfire has broken out, Homeland Security spokesman Russ Knocke said in Washington. "In areas where our employees have been determined to potentially be in danger, we have pulled back," he said.

    "Hospitals are trying to evacuate," said Coast Guard Lt. Cmdr. Cheri Ben-Iesan, spokesman at the city emergency operations center. "At every one of them, there are reports that as the helicopters come in people are shooting at them. There are people just taking potshots at police and at helicopters, telling them, "You better come get my family.

    Police Capt. Ernie Demmo said a National Guard military policeman was shot in the leg as the two scuffled for the MP's rifle. The man was arrested.

    "These are good people. These are just scared people," Demmo said.

    The Superdome, where some 25,000 people were being evacuated by bus to the Houston Astrodome, descended into chaos.

    Huge crowds, hoping to finally escape the stifling confines of the stadium, jammed the main concourse outside the dome, spilling out over the ramp to the Hyatt hotel next door -- a seething sea of tense, unhappy, people packed shoulder-to-shoulder up to the barricades where heavily armed National Guardsmen stood.

    Fights broke out. A fire erupted in a trash chute inside the dome, but a National Guard commander said it did not affect the evacuation. After a traffic jam kept buses from arriving at the Sueprdome for nearly four hours, a near riot broke out in the scramble to get on the buses that finally did show up.

    Outside the Convention Center, the sidewalks were packed with people without food, water or medical care, and with no sign of law enforcement. Thousands of storm refugees had been assembling outside for days, waiting for buses that did not come.

    At least seven bodies were scattered outside, and hungry, desperate people who were tired of waiting broke through the steel doors to a food service entrance and began pushing out pallets of water and juice and whatever else they could find.

    An old man in a chaise lounge lay dead in a grassy median as hungry babies wailed around him. Around the corner, an elderly woman lay dead in her wheelchair, covered up by a blanket, and another body lay beside her wrapped in a sheet.

    "I don't treat my dog like that," 47-year-old Daniel Edwards said as he pointed at the woman in the wheelchair. "I buried my dog." He added: "You can do everything for other countries but you can't do nothing for your own people. You can go overseas with the military but you can't get them down here."

    Just above the convention center on Interstate 10, commercial buses were lined up, going nowhere. The street outside the center, above the floodwaters, smelled of urine and feces, and was choked with dirty diapers, old bottles and garbage.

    "They've been teasing us with buses for four days," Edwards said.

    People chanted, "Help, help!" as reporters and photographers walked through. The crowd got angry when journalists tried to photograph one of the bodies, and covered it over with a blanket. A woman, screaming, went on the front steps of the convention center and led the crowd in reciting the 23rd Psalm.

    John Murray, 52, said: "It's like they're punishing us."

    The first of hundreds of busloads of people evacuated from the Superdome arrived early Thursday at their new temporary home -- another sports arena, the Houston Astrodome, 350 miles away.

    But the ambulance service in charge of taking the sick and injured from the Superdome suspended flights after a shot was reported fired at a military helicopter. Richard Zuschlag, chief of Acadian Ambulance, said it had become too dangerous for his pilots.

    The military, which was overseeing the removal of the able-bodied by buses, continued the ground evacuation without interruption, said National Guard Lt. Col. Pete Schneider. The government had no immediate confirmation of whether a military helicopter was fired on.

    In Texas, the governor's office said Texas has agreed to take in an additional 25,000 refugees from Katrina and plans to house them in San Antonio, though exactly where has not been determined.

    In Washington, the White House said President Bush will tour the devastated Gulf Coast region on Friday and has asked his father, former President George H.W. Bush, and former President Clinton to lead a private fund-raising campaign for victims.

    The president urged a crackdown on the lawlessness.

    "I think there ought to be zero tolerance of people breaking the law during an emergency such as this -- whether it be looting, or price gouging at the gasoline pump, or taking advantage of charitable giving or insurance fraud," Bush said. "And I've made that clear to our attorney general. The citizens ought to be working together."

    On Wednesday, Mayor Ray Nagin offered the most startling estimate yet of the magnitude of the disaster: Asked how many people died in New Orleans, he said: "Minimum, hundreds. Most likely, thousands." The death toll has already reached at least 121 in Mississippi

    If the estimate proves correct, it would make Katrina the worst natural disaster in the United States since at least the 1906 San Francisco earthquake and fire, which was blamed for anywhere from about 500 to 6,000 deaths. Katrina would also be the nation's deadliest hurricane since 1900, when a storm in Galveston, Texas, killed between 6,000 and 12,000 people.

    Nagin called for a total evacuation of New Orleans, saying the city had become uninhabitable for the 50,000 to 100,000 who remained behind after the city of nearly a half-million people was ordered cleared out over the weekend, before Katrina blasted the Gulf Coast with 145-mph winds.

    The mayor said that it will be two or three months before the city is functioning again and that people would not be allowed back into their homes for at least a month or two.

    "We need an effort of 9-11 proportions," former New Orleans Mayor Marc Morial, now president of the Urban League, said on NBC's "Today" show. "So many of the people who did not evacuate, could not evacuate for whatever reason. They are people who are African-American mostly but not completely, and people who were of little or limited economic means. They are the folks, we've got to get them out of there."

    "A great American city is fighting for its life," he added. "We must rebuild New Orleans, the city that gave us jazz, and music, and multiculturalism."

    With New Orleans sinking deeper into desperation, Nagin ordered virtually the entire police force to abandon search-and-rescue efforts Wednesday and stop the increasingly brazen thieves.

    "They are starting to get closer to heavily populated areas -- hotels, hospitals, and we're going to stop it right now," Nagin said.

    In a sign of growing lawlessness, Tenet HealthCare Corp. asked authorities late Wednesday to help evacuate a fully functioning hospital in Gretna after a supply truck carrying food, water and medical supplies was held up at gunpoint.

    The floodwaters streamed into the city's streets from two levee breaks near Lake Pontchartrain a day after New Orleans thought it had escaped catastrophic damage from Katrina. The floodwaters covered 80 percent of the city, in some areas 20 feet deep, in a reddish-brown soup of sewage, gasoline and garbage.

    The Army Corps of Engineers said it planned to use heavy-duty Chinook helicopters to drop 15,000-pound bags of sand and stone into a 500-foot gap in the failed floodwall.

    But the agency said it was having trouble getting the sandbags and dozens of 15-foot highway barriers to the site because the city's waterways were blocked by loose barges, boats and large debris.

    Lt. Gov. Mitch Landrieu toured the stricken areas said said rescued people begged him to pass information to their families. His pocket was full of scraps of paper on which he had scribbled down their phone numbers.

    When he got a working phone in the early morning hours Thursday, he contacted a woman whose father had been rescued and told her: "Your daddy's alive, and he said to tell you he loves you."

    "She just started crying. She said, `I thought he was dead,'" he said.

    Associated Press reporters Holbrook Mohr, Mary Foster, Robert Tanner, Allen G. Breed, Cain Burdeau, Jay Reeves and Brett Martel contributed to this report.


    9/1/2005 13:20:01
    If all the Military were over there instead of Iraq there would'nt be 70% of the Mass destruction that is goin on now.




    "I don't treat my dog like that," 47-year-old Daniel Edwards said as he pointed at the woman in the wheelchair. "I buried my dog." He added: "You can do everything for other countries but you can't do nothing for your own people. You can go overseas with the military but you can't get them down here."



    Yes Mr Daniel Edwards unfortunatly you are correct
  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58754

    #2
    It's goddamn fucking genocide is what it is. If this was a rich white Republican suburb, they would be airlifting food in, and survivors out. Instead Fucking Chimperor Dumbass sent the supplies by BOAT.

    FUCKING BOAT? Has to go all the way around Florida and won't get there until Wednesday??

    And you have the GODDAMNED FUCKING NERVE to call for "Zero tolerance" toward "looters" trying to feed their families?

    FUCK OFF AND DIE YOU COWARDLY RACIST SON OF A COCKSUCKING NAZI BITCH CHIMPANZEE!!
    Eat Us And Smile

    Cenk For America 2024!!

    Justice Democrats


    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • Guitar Shark
      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
      • Jan 2004
      • 7576

      #3
      Originally posted by FORD
      It's goddamn fucking genocide is what it is. If this was a rich white Republican suburb, they would be airlifting food in, and survivors out. Instead Fucking Chimperor Dumbass sent the supplies by BOAT.

      FUCKING BOAT? Has to go all the way around Florida and won't get there until Wednesday??

      And you have the GODDAMNED FUCKING NERVE to call for "Zero tolerance" toward "looters" trying to feed their families?

      FUCK OFF AND DIE YOU COWARDLY RACIST SON OF A COCKSUCKING NAZI BITCH CHIMPANZEE!!
      Tell us how you really feel FORD.

      Where's this info re: sending supplies by boat? I didn't see it in this article.
      ROTH ARMY MILITIA


      Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
      Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 58754

        #4
        Originally posted by Guitar Shark
        Tell us how you really feel FORD.

        Where's this info re: sending supplies by boat? I didn't see it in this article.
        Nazi Monkey said that himself in his press conference.

        Meanwhile, area hospitals are calling the goddamned Associated Press for help, because the government won't answer. The mayor says he hasn't heard from a single representative of FEMA, let alone from the BCE.

        This is beyond sickening. It might as well be Ethiopia or Indonesia down there. Maybe someone should call Bob Geldof so something will get done?
        Eat Us And Smile

        Cenk For America 2024!!

        Justice Democrats


        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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        • Mr. Vengeance
          Full Member Status

          • Nov 2004
          • 4148

          #5
          Originally posted by FORD
          It's goddamn fucking genocide is what it is. If this was a rich white Republican suburb, they would be airlifting food in, and survivors out.
          Truer words have never been written. It's a disgrace!
          Stay Frosty, muthas!

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          • Guitar Shark
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Jan 2004
            • 7576

            #6
            But if it were a rich white Republican suburb, the victims probably wouldn't be looting or firing on rescue personnel either.
            ROTH ARMY MILITIA


            Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
            Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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            • Warham
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Mar 2004
              • 14587

              #7
              Don't worry, FORD. Clinton's on the case.

              Since when did a natural disaster count as genocide? Somebody fill me in on when that definition changed.

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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49125

                #8
                I know I'm a pansy-'commie' liberal, but anyone looting and acting like sociopathic hooligan (with a weapon) should be shot on site! It's martial law now...

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                • Warham
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 14587

                  #9
                  I agree, Nick. It's gone too far with these gangs shooting at military and civilian rescue vehicles. Martial law time here. No fucking around.

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                  • BigBadBrian
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10620

                    #10
                    You know...for once....I agree with a little bit of what everyone has said here. Even FORD.

                    Where are all the fucking HELICOPTERS? The fucking gunships could suppress these goddamn looters.

                    Don't hand me "They're all in Iraq" argument.

                    Everyone knows Cheney was holding enough back for North Korea and Iran anyway.

                    Seriously, there are enough military units here stateside to do the job...seriously. Somebody needs to get off of their ass and MOVE.

                    PRONTO.

                    They also need to restore order NOW. Anyone caught shooting at the authorities or the military should be SHOT on sight. It seems harsh but it will help restore order in the quickest fashion.
                    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                    • frets5150
                      Commando
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 1461

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                      I know I'm a pansy-'commie' liberal, but anyone looting and acting like sociopathic hooligan (with a weapon) should be shot on site! It's martial law now...
                      I agree and disagree If people are breaking into supermarkets to get food instead of starving go ahead the food will proably go bad any way since there is no Electricity. On the other hand I saw this guy carrying a 32' Flat Panel color TV yeah he should be shot no one has got a house to put it in so why did he bother Fuckin Retard.
                      Last edited by frets5150; 09-01-2005, 06:43 PM.

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                      • Cathedral
                        ROTH ARMY ELITE
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 6618

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Guitar Shark
                        Tell us how you really feel FORD.

                        Where's this info re: sending supplies by boat? I didn't see it in this article.
                        He actually said that on TV.
                        "It has float there" or something like close to that.

                        That's what pisses me off, everything was a day late and then two days in coming.
                        Babies need food and diapers.

                        The looting bullshit is for the birds because there isn't anything there at this point that can be resold and is now a right off.

                        if the people want it I say it's first find first keep, or until some asshole with an A-K takes it from you.

                        This is fucked, and it isn't as if I don't understand why it took awhile for the event to end. but supplies and assistance should have been executed better than it has been.
                        FEMA even said as much themselves.

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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49125

                          #13
                          Originally posted by frets5150
                          I agree and disagree If people are breaking into supermarkets to get food instead of starving go ahead the food will proably go bad any way since there is no Electricity. On the other hand I saw this guy carrying a 32' Flat Panel color TV yeah he should be shot no one has got a house to put it in so why did he bother Fuckin Retard.
                          I'm only talking about gangs running the streets; the ones attacking civilians, police, and Nat'l Guardsmen...

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                          • ELVIS
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 44120

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Warham
                            Martial law time here.
                            The mayor declared Martial law days ago...

                            BTW, I survived...


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                            • Cathedral
                              ROTH ARMY ELITE
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 6618

                              #15
                              DUDE, THANK GOD YOU ARE OK!

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