Attention KISS ARMY

[jacksmar]

Take this for what you will as it a rumor.
There is a KISS concert Saturday September 10, 2005.
This concert features the 4 original members of KISS.
It is for Honda employees only.
Honda has six different Honda facilities in west Central Ohio.

My take:
If it works with the guys again on this special concert, expect 30-40 US Dates in Dynasty years outfits and it’s over.

:rockit2:

[DLR_EngineRoom]

Originally posted by jacksmar
Take this for what you will as it a rumor.
There is a KISS concert Saturday September 10, 2005.
This concert features the 4 original members of KISS.
It is for Honda employees only.
Honda has six different Honda facilities in west Central Ohio.

My take:
If it works with the guys again on this special concert, expect 30-40 US Dates in Dynasty years outfits and it’s over.

:rockit2:


Links....I need links.....links please......

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by jacksmar
Take this for what you will as it a rumor.
There is a KISS concert Saturday September 10, 2005.
This concert features the 4 original members of KISS.
It is for Honda employees only.
Honda has six different Honda facilities in west Central Ohio.

My take:
If it works with the guys again on this special concert, expect 30-40 US Dates in Dynasty years outfits and it’s over.

:rockit2:

Likely: a KISS concert for Honda employees (for whatever reason).

Very UNlikely: the original 4 members (that would mean Ace and Peter included) performing.

If it does happen, expect it to be KISS-fakes Tommy Thayer (as Ace) and Eric Singer (as Peter) dressing up as the Catman and Spaceman once again.

Also, don't expect KISS to bring out the Dynasty outfits again. While I think they're cool, Paul Stanley dismissed them as too Vegasy or too Disney-like.

[Bill Lumbergh]

No WAY they'll EVER don the Dynasty outfits again.

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by Bill Lumbergh
No WAY they'll EVER don the Dynasty outfits again.

Yeah.

But they were cool, at least Gene and Ace's were.

http://www.nolifetilmetal.com/images/kiss_dynastyprompic.jpg

[Vinnie Velvet]

http://www.afgrant.com/images/kissonline/dynasty1.jpg

[Mr. Vengeance]

Seems to me KISS has done this a couple of times recently and it's always been with Tommy Thayer in the Ace paint. I cannot see Ace ever returning. And I can't see Peter ever being allowed to come back.

Peter pisses me off....He was nowhere before the reunion, and he was complaining how he was tired of playing little shithole clubs and loved being back in arenas with KISS..then he starts whining about wanting more money, and where is he now? He had pretty much lost it as a drummer, as anyone who saw the last couple of tours with him saw.

Ace has always been Ace. Showed up to record when he felt like it. Many times his guitar parts were played by Paul, Gene or some session guy. I love KISS, so it was a blow to read in the notes for the box set, how Ace and Peter weren't always much of a part of the band during the mid-years.

[Mr. Vengeance]

I liked the Dynasty era outfits, except for Peters...ugh! Sure beat the Elder outfits.

[jacksmar]

I can't link. Sorry. This was a private phone conversation.

The real rumor here is that if this show works out between the orginal 4 members they MIGHT tour for the last time.

One last rumor: Singer was given his walking papers after asking for payment and back payments of said services.

THis IS ALL hearsay.
I really apologize for not having more.

The DYNASTY outfit tour is purely my speculation.

To verify this rumor, I'm trying to reach someone in Bobby Rahal's race shop. That's all I have.

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by Mr. Vengeance
Seems to me KISS has done this a couple of times recently and it's always been with Tommy Thayer in the Ace paint. I cannot see Ace ever returning. And I can't see Peter ever being allowed to come back.

Peter pisses me off....He was nowhere before the reunion, and he was complaining how he was tired of playing little shithole clubs and loved being back in arenas with KISS..then he starts whining about wanting more money, and where is he now? He had pretty much lost it as a drummer, as anyone who saw the last couple of tours with him saw.

Ace has always been Ace. Showed up to record when he felt like it. Many times his guitar parts were played by Paul, Gene or some session guy. I love KISS, so it was a blow to read in the notes for the box set, how Ace and Peter weren't always much of a part of the band during the mid-years.

While Peter is not the drummer he once was in the 70s, he can still play well.

I heard boots of Eric Singer playing on the 2004 rock the nation tour and its nothing spectacular. In fact, he played better when he was initially in the band from 1992-1995.

Ace, as you said, is Ace.

During the shows, Ace played great.

I can see Gene and Paul bringing back Ace moreso than Peter though.

Because since it wouldn't look so bad since Eric is behind the drumkit.

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by jacksmar
I can't link. Sorry. This was a private phone conversation.

The real rumor here is that if this show works out between the orginal 4 members they MIGHT tour for the last time.

One last rumor: Singer was given his walking papers after asking for payment and back payments of said services.

THis IS ALL hearsay.
I really apologize for not having more.

The DYNASTY outfit tour is purely my speculation.

To verify this rumor, I'm trying to reach someone in Bobby Rahal's race shop. That's all I have.

Hmmm.

Well, not sure about the Singer thing.

He was just recently interviewed at kissonline. But of course that was a few months ago.

And Thayer still has his own website up, clearly depicting himself as the 'spaceman'. :rolleyes:

Also, while I can see a one-off show, Paul Stanley is currently finishing his solo album and rumour has it that he may take it on a mini-tour with his own band.

[jacksmar]

Spaceman. LOL!!!!

Well no one at the race shop can confirm for me so, I’ll just assume that the whole thing is a rumor. The race shop said that they were more focused on a race in Chicago, for some reason.:D

I have one more source for KISS info and he hasn’t gotten back either. So for now………

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by jacksmar
Spaceman. LOL!!!!

Well no one at the race shop can confirm for me so, I’ll just assume that the whole thing is a rumor. The race shop said that they were more focused on a race in Chicago, for some reason.:D

I have one more source for KISS info and he hasn’t gotten back either. So for now………

Okay.

I'll take this for now.

:)

[Mr. Vengeance]

Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
While Peter is not the drummer he once was in the 70s, he can still play well.

I heard boots of Eric Singer playing on the 2004 rock the nation tour and its nothing spectacular. In fact, he played better when he was initially in the band from 1992-1995.

Ace, as you said, is Ace.

During the shows, Ace played great.

I can see Gene and Paul bringing back Ace moreso than Peter though.

Because since it wouldn't look so bad since Eric is behind the drumkit.

Just saw Singer play with Alice Cooper in Toronto and he sounded pretty strong.

Ace always plays well, when he does play.

[NATEDOG001976]

Fuck Kiss, they suck.

[Mr. Vengeance]

Originally posted by NATEDOG001976
Fuck Kiss, they suck.

Thanks for that in-depth analysis, junior.

[Mezro]

Originally posted by Bill Lumbergh
No WAY they'll EVER don the Dynasty outfits again.

Mezro...give me the Creatures of the Night outfits...ahhh fuck it...slap on the Elder gear just for giggles...

[franksters]

If they ever come back again, i believe that it should be a vegas act:

change outfits and the stage to match the setlist and stuff..

I remember the unpluged tour that they did was a huge success, people were able to request the song they wanted to hear and the ticket were 150$ 7-8 years ago!

they could do it again and I think that there is no plan for them to stop, i think they want to be like the stones...

[Bill Lumbergh]

Originally posted by Mezro
Mezro...give me the Creatures of the Night outfits...ahhh fuck it...slap on the Elder gear just for giggles...

I'd go just for Paul's purple headband alone...........:D

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Bill Lumbergh
I'd go just for Paul's purple headband alone...........:D

THE ELDER is easily their worst period, image-wise (at least for the make-up years). Gene with the short hair and open shirt...Christ, he looks like a moron.

My favorite? Actually, my favorite concert footage and stage set-up, etc., is probably DYNASTY. Under-rated tour, under-rated album, under-rated period for them.

But albums? My favorite period will still probably always be the Eddie Kramer 1976-77 period...their rawest stuff.

[Mr Badguy]

I say bring back the "Hotter tha hell" outfits and make Thayer wear that big cardboard shoulder...erm....triangle.

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by Mr Badguy
I say bring back the "Hotter tha hell" outfits and make Thayer wear that big cardboard shoulder...erm....triangle.

Fuck, I've had it with Thayer dressing up as Ace.

Seeing him in the Destroyer and Alive! Ace outfits is enough!

[Vinnie Velvet]

This one's for Bill and Rikk.

:)

http://www.kissonline.com/faq/focus/81_kiss2.jpg

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by Mr. Vengeance
I liked the Dynasty era outfits, except for Peters...ugh! Sure beat the Elder outfits.

http://www.koolfm.com/user_files/images/File/dynasty.jpg

Lots of shoulderpads too as I remember...

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
http://www.koolfm.com/user_files/images/File/dynasty.jpg

Lots of shoulderpads too as I remember...

LMAO!!

[twonabomber]

Originally posted by Mr. Vengeance
Just saw Singer play with Alice Cooper in Toronto and he sounded pretty strong.



then maybe this KISS show doesn't include Singer...Alice Cooper is playing Albuquerque on the 10th. hmmmm...

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by twonabomber
then maybe this KISS show doesn't include Singer...Alice Cooper is playing Albuquerque on the 10th. hmmmm...

I don't know.

Singer is such a pathetic human being -- he'll jump at the chance to play a gig as long as Gene sends him a nice fat cheque!

[Rikk]

Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
This one's for Bill and Rikk.

:)

http://www.kissonline.com/faq/focus/81_kiss2.jpg

Don't make me post Gene with his ANIMALIZE wig, mother fucker!:p

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by Rikk
Don't make me post Gene with his ANIMALIZE wig, mother fucker!:p

Oh fuck, no!

Don't do it, Rikk!

:eek:

[franksters]

do it rikk, animalize me...

[Rikk]

Not a great shot...but Jesus Christ!!

http://www.kissfanshop.de/KissTours/84a.jpg

[Rikk]

Wow. They look...uh...

http://www.kissfaq.com/focus/live84.jpg

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by Rikk
Wow. They look...uh...

http://www.kissfaq.com/focus/live84.jpg

GAY!!! There I SAID IT!!

As much of a KISS I am, that is FUCKING GAY.

Let's stick with the makeup era please.

[Mezro]

Originally posted by Bill Lumbergh
I'd go just for Paul's purple headband alone...........:D

Shhhhhh...we don't want Paul to hear us. He is a sensitive love pirate.

Mezro...a world without purple...

[Bill Lumbergh]

Originally posted by Mezro
Shhhhhh...we don't want Paul to hear us. He is a sensitive love pirate.

Mezro...a world without purple...

Don't you mean BUTT pirate?! Oops, I think Paulie heard me.........don't want to upset Mr. Cauliflower ear..........

[DLR_EngineRoom]

Originally posted by Mr. Vengeance
Seems to me KISS has done this a couple of times recently and it's always been with Tommy Thayer in the Ace paint. I cannot see Ace ever returning. And I can't see Peter ever being allowed to come back.

Peter pisses me off....He was nowhere before the reunion, and he was complaining how he was tired of playing little shithole clubs and loved being back in arenas with KISS..then he starts whining about wanting more money, and where is he now? He had pretty much lost it as a drummer, as anyone who saw the last couple of tours with him saw.

Ace has always been Ace. Showed up to record when he felt like it. Many times his guitar parts were played by Paul, Gene or some session guy. I love KISS, so it was a blow to read in the notes for the box set, how Ace and Peter weren't always much of a part of the band during the mid-years.


Spoken truth......amen bruddah!

[DLR_EngineRoom]

Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
I don't know.

Singer is such a pathetic human being -- he'll jump at the chance to play a gig as long as Gene sends him a nice fat cheque!

As much as Peter was amazing as far as the original KISS image and his unique voice goes, make no mistake, Eric Singer has before and can still kick that Cat's fuzzbutt all over any world tour, dig?

I saw him with Cooper about a month ago, and I've also seen 'em with KISS, either way, he kicks ass on drums, got a great stage presence behind the skins too.

Peter Criss is a crybaby hasbeen. Period. Boo-frickety-hoo.

[Mr. Vengeance]

I don't know if anything can top this Unmasked-era pic.

[franksters]

RIKK you bastard you did it! :puke:

[franksters]

So what do you guys think as a Vegas act?
any reaction,

the kiss casino, why not?

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by DLR_EngineRoom
As much as Peter was amazing as far as the original KISS image and his unique voice goes, make no mistake, Eric Singer has before and can still kick that Cat's fuzzbutt all over any world tour, dig?

I saw him with Cooper about a month ago, and I've also seen 'em with KISS, either way, he kicks ass on drums, got a great stage presence behind the skins too.

Peter Criss is a crybaby hasbeen. Period. Boo-frickety-hoo.

Eric is a good dummer, however, Carr was so much better.

But Eric Singer is nothing but a fucking scab.

I heard his playing on last year's KISS tour, it was NOTHING great. In fact, it often sounded like Peter was playing (as on the 2003 tour with Aerosmith).

Want to know something? Eric even had trouble trying to learn the drum parts to 100,000 Years.

WHY???? Because that style of drumming is just not straight ahead hard rock/metal style of drumming.

It took Singer awhile to finally get down the GROOVE that's in 100,000 Years.

Make no mistake, and say what you want about Peter now, his style was unique and original on those early records.

While Singer is just your regular rock drummer -- nothing special.

[Mezro]

Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
Eric is a good dummer, however, Carr was so much better.

Mezro...Eric Carr was the real deal and then some...

[jacksmar]

KISS played the Honda Family Festival at the
Columbus Convention
Center in Columbus, OH, last night. Honda expected some 35,000
employees to be attending the event that began at 11am. Other
entertainment included a rodeo, WWE Wrestling, poker playing, and
more. KISS played at 9pm forgoing the blood-spitting and fire-
breathing. Their set:

Detroit Rock City
Deuce
Makin' Love
Lick It Up
Firehouse
Got To Choose
I Love It Loud
Christine Sixteen
Love Gun
Let Me Go, Rock 'N Roll
100,000 Years
I Was Made For Lovin' You
Shout It Out Loud
Cold Gin
God Of Thunder
God Gave Rock 'N Roll To You II
Rock And Roll All Nite

[twonabomber]

looks like last year's setlist.

[Mr. Vengeance]

According to Kissasylum.com, it was with Tommy and Eric Singer. As I figured it would be.

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by Mr. Vengeance
According to Kissasylum.com, it was with Tommy and Eric Singer. As I figured it would be.

Yeah.

:rolleyes:

[Mezro]

"Ok Tommy, here is your $1000 for the night and Eric, we gonna give you lots of KISS Corporation love by slipping you two crisp hundred dollar bills and a signed copy of Gene's Asshole CD...whooooo!"

Mezro...shank that piggy bank Paul...

[jacksmar]

LOL!!!