Americans Speak Out as Supreme Court Considers Censoring Pledge

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  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    Americans Speak Out as Supreme Court Considers Censoring Pledge

    Wednesday, March 24, 2004


    As the Supreme Court today considers whether to censor the phrase "under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance, the American people have taken a firm stand that should surprise no one.

    A new poll by the Associated Press shows that nearly 90 percent of Americans want to keep the reference. Apparently they don’t believe the First Amendment’s requirement that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” means the feds should declare war on all religious expression.

    The court is hearing arguments today from California atheist Michael Newdow, who initially claimed "protection” of his 9-year-old daughter as his motive for opposing recitation of the pledge in government schools. After the girl and her mother revealed they supported the pledge, he admitted exploiting the child as an excuse to sue away.

    The notorious 9th Circuit Court of Appeals in (naturally) San Francisco, by far the most overturned in the nation, gave Newdow his initial judicial victory.

    The girl’s mother, Sandra Banning, a born-again Christian, said today on ABC’s "Good Morning America,” "I object to his inclusion of our daughter” in the case. She worries that her daughter will be "the child who is remembered as the little girl who changed the Pledge of Allegiance.”

    Written in 1892 and adopted by Congress as a patriotic tribute in 1942, the pledge did not originally include "under God.” Congress inserted the phrase in 1954 during the Cold War.

    Newdow has admitted he also wants to censor the national motto, "In God We Trust,” from U.S. currency. "It’s a cool thing to do. Everyone should try it,” he said in June 2002.



  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10620

    #2
    In God We Trust.
    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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    • steve
      Sniper
      • Feb 2004
      • 841

      #3
      People are entitled to feel however they want to about this issue - but just because something is popular doesn't make it right, or in agreeance with the Constitution of the United States.

      The words "under God" were added at a time of anti-communist ferver and McCarthyism - not exactly a firm foundation to change the pledge as it had been since 1892. If people are arguing on the basis of historical context and the elimination of history - than this is not the best example.

      On that note...by the logic of "history" - which to me is the strongest and only argument to be made - proposing "in God We Trust" be taken off dollar bills presents a more difficult task. In such a case, the "In God We Trust" is part of a historical document - the dollar bill - a mere paper relic of our past and a symbol within itself - something that doesn't present the problem of verbal indocrination into a religion - like the additional words to the pledge do.

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      • Jesus Christ
        Veteran
        • Jan 2004
        • 2428

        #4
        Neither Dad nor Myself require you to say a daily pledge, nor do we ask any government to do so in Our Names.

        For ye are to give to Caesar the things that are Caesar's and to God the things that are God's. And verily, My Father and I hath no flag.

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        • knuckleboner
          Crazy Ass Mofo
          • Jan 2004
          • 2927

          #5
          the congress was stupid to put "under God" into the pledge. simple. there was no good reason to change it at that point in time.

          however, i hardly see it as an "establishment of religion."

          the federal government requires no one to say it.

          and the school kids do not have to participate in the pledge if they don't want to.

          the supreme court SHOULD overturn the 9th circuit. and i expecpt it'll do so (again...)

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          • ELVIS
            Banned
            • Dec 2003
            • 44120

            #6
            It won't even see the light of day...

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            • knuckleboner
              Crazy Ass Mofo
              • Jan 2004
              • 2927

              #7
              uh...big E, the 9th circuit court of appeals ruled that the inclusion of "under God" in the pledge was unconstitutional.

              if the U.S. supreme court reaffirms that decision it becomes the law of the land. they won't, mind you. but the case has definitely seen some light. even if it was just the sunshine the idiots on the 9th circuit have been blowing up each others' assess...

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              • ELVIS
                Banned
                • Dec 2003
                • 44120

                #8
                I hear you..

                I'm watching this...

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                • Jesus Christ
                  Veteran
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 2428

                  #9
                  I'm watching everything, My son. But I really wish they would leave My name and My Dad's out of it.

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                  • ELVIS
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 44120

                    #10
                    Shaddup!!!

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                    • Viking
                      Veteran
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 1772

                      #11
                      Michael Newdow wil never be safe as long as there's the possibility that he may one day walk down the same street as me.......

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                      • Pink Spider
                        Sniper
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 867

                        #12
                        There's that good Christian love again.

                        Only fascist countries make little children pledge allegiance to the state. The whole thing should be banned.

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                        • Dr. Love
                          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 7825

                          #13
                          You rebel.
                          I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

                          http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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                          • BigBadBrian
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 10620

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Pink Spider
                            There's that good Christian love again.

                            Only fascist countries make little children pledge allegiance to the state. The whole thing should be banned.
                            You're free to leave anytime, you Socialist twat!
                            “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                            • ELVIS
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 44120

                              #15
                              Take FORD with you...

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