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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58754

    Mark your calendars: October Surprise is on the way

    FBI's Mueller Warns of Terrorist Plots
    3 hours ago
    By CURT ANDERSON, Associated Press Writer

    WASHINGTON - Terrorists could attempt to influence the outcome of this year's U.S. presidential election by launching attacks in America and overseas, FBI Director Robert Mueller said Thursday.

    In an interview with The Associated Press, Mueller also said Islamic extremists have changed tactics and are focusing on recruiting local sympathizers who are less likely to arouse suspicion than outsiders sent into a country to conduct terrorist operations.

    The deadly March 11 train bombings in Madrid, which were a factor in the ouster of a pro-U.S. Spanish government, could embolden al-Qaida or other extremists to attack the United States during this summer's presidential nominating conventions in New York and Boston, Mueller said.

    "In the wake of what happened in Madrid we have to be concerned about the possibility of terrorists attempting to influence elections in the United States by committing a terrorist act," Mueller said.

    Those conventions will bookend the Summer Olympics in Athens, another venue that could draw terrorist attacks. The United States has been concerned that security efforts in Athens may fall short of what is necessary to protect athletes and spectators.

    "We understand that between now and the election, there is a window of time in which terrorists might try to influence events, whether it's here or overseas," Mueller said. The FBI and other U.S. agencies are assisting the Greeks to identify and shore up potential weaknesses.

    Regarding the new al-Qaida recruiting tactics, Mueller said that the suicide bombers who took part in last May's attacks in Casablanca, Morocco, were local extremists and indicated that similar efforts are likely going on in the United States.

    Mueller also applauded the cooperation of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan in U.S. anti-terrorism efforts. Since the deadly May 12 bombings in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia has moved aggressively to root out al-Qaida cells and discovered huge caches of explosives and weapons.

    "Saudi Arabia has become a very inhospitable place for al-Qaida," Mueller said. "That was not always the case."

    Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

    I just have to add that asking Pakistan and Saudi Arabia for help with Al Qaeda is like asking the KKK and the Skinheads to help fight racism! Face it, those fucking BCE bastards are planning some shit, and it's time you Busheep woke the fuck up and realized it!
    Eat Us And Smile

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    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992
  • diamond den™

    #2
    The BCE rock!

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    • steve
      Sniper
      • Feb 2004
      • 841

      #3
      That burns me up how he describes potential "terror attacks" as "Al Queda's attempt to influence elections" - as if a win by Kerry under those circumstances would be invalid.

      The pessimistic part of me is just waiting for this to happen...
      a few subway explosions from Al Queda (sorry FORD, I'm not with the conspiracy theory - just that the "BCE" are ignorant assholes)...
      and in the event of a Kerry win, Bush refuses to give up the White House claiming "terrorist tampering" or some bright new concept until a(n ironic) recount can take place.

      We'll see...

      Obviously, I hope there are no terrorist attacks at all; but I am not too optimistic , to say the least, about these Supreme Court bribing, Oil Company profiteering, Terror-expert ignoring, WMD falsifying, loud-mouthed, ignorant Corporation tools in the executve branch right now.

      If only Bob Dole had won in 96 and 2000 (and thus no GW)...the country would be a lot better off.
      Last edited by steve; 03-25-2004, 08:56 PM.

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 58754

        #4
        Originally posted by steve


        If only Bob Dole had won in 96 and 2002 (and thus no GW)...the country would be a lot better off.
        2002??

        I'd take Dole over Junior, but I think most people realized he was a little old for the job. I definitely couldn't see him for 8 years.
        Eat Us And Smile

        Cenk For America 2024!!

        Justice Democrats


        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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        • steve
          Sniper
          • Feb 2004
          • 841

          #5
          Originally posted by FORD
          2002??

          I'd take Dole over Junior, but I think most people realized he was a little old for the job. I definitely couldn't see him for 8 years.
          Damn, typo there .

          Anyway - even though I disagree with some of Bob Dole's policies, he struck me as an intelligent and decent human being - a man of relative principle for the game of politics.

          Actually, if Bob Dole were in politics today, I am not so sure if he wouldn't be falling into the McCain/Guiliani wing of the Republican party...as Dole's main tie to the GOP was his fiscal conservatism as opposed to his (lack of) extreme conservative social attitudes, Corporation slavitude, and religious cult ties.

          The age thing would not be a problem now - as the man is still going strong. But you're right in that his age is what ultimately lost him that election.
          Last edited by steve; 03-25-2004, 09:03 PM.

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          • John Ashcroft
            Veteran
            • Jan 2004
            • 2127

            #6
            Bob Dole?????????

            Come on now! He embodied every reason that America doesn't elect Senators as President. Don't get me wrong, Senator Dole is a very intelligent and respectable guy. But you can't convince America that you're gonna "clean this town up" when you've been in the Senate for the last fucking 40 years. It's party of what Kerry's running against (that, and he doesn't even have the charisma to make a die-hard Democrat yawn.)

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 58754

              #7
              Originally posted by John Ashcroft
              Bob Dole?????????

              It's party of what Kerry's running against (that, and he doesn't even have the charisma to make a die-hard Democrat yawn.)
              Nope. I puke often when I hear him waffling, but never yawn.
              Eat Us And Smile

              Cenk For America 2024!!

              Justice Democrats


              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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              • John Ashcroft
                Veteran
                • Jan 2004
                • 2127

                #8
                Proof positive!

                And whoops! I meant "part", not "party"... Even thought Dole's a viagra spokesman, I doubt he's much of a party...

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                • Cathedral
                  ROTH ARMY ELITE
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 6618

                  #9
                  If America is hit by another attack prior to the election Bush is done. There is no way the so called "BCE" would plot that kind of thing when it will only serve to turn people against Bush for NOT better protecting the borders.

                  I find fault in this whole proposal...

                  Kerry, if anyone, would be the only beneficiary of such an action.

                  Barring that, This election will be based on job creation to which Kerry is clearly seen as the man to accomplish that goal.

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                  • BigBadBrian
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10620

                    #10
                    Originally posted by steve

                    to say the least, about these Supreme Court bribing, Oil Company profiteering, Terror-expert ignoring, WMD falsifying, loud-mouthed, ignorant Corporation tools in the executve branch right now.

                    Steve obviously gets his talking points from all the other America haters at the Democratic Underground.
                    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                    • FORD
                      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 58754

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Cathedral
                      If America is hit by another attack prior to the election Bush is done. There is no way the so called "BCE" would plot that kind of thing when it will only serve to turn people against Bush for NOT better protecting the borders.

                      I find fault in this whole proposal...

                      Kerry, if anyone, would be the only beneficiary of such an action.

                      Barring that, This election will be based on job creation to which Kerry is clearly seen as the man to accomplish that goal.
                      But you're forgetting one thing.... Remember when Tommy Franks hinted that another terrorist attack would bring martial law??

                      If that were to happen, and people were essentially under house arrest, the election would be "postponed".

                      And just like it was in Germany 70 years ago, there wouldn't be anything "temporary" about it
                      Eat Us And Smile

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                      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                      • John Ashcroft
                        Veteran
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 2127

                        #12
                        Actually, a terrorist hit would strengthen Bush's reeletion probablility IMHO. Let's face it, Dems aren't considered strong on National Defense, and Americans don't buy into this whole notion that "America is inviting terrorism by it's policies". Americans blame the terrorists and the nations that harbor them.

                        But, the Dems seem to think otherwise. So good luck running on a "Blame America" campaign. I think you guys should go for it!

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                        • FORD
                          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                          • Jan 2004
                          • 58754

                          #13
                          No I agree with you. Assuming the elections weren't cancelled altogether through martial law or some other constitution shredding means, I'm sure the fear-hypnotized population would completely buy into the corporate media lie that "only the BCE can protect us".

                          Hell, Junior's already implying that in his current campaign ad. The one that he appears in himself.
                          Eat Us And Smile

                          Cenk For America 2024!!

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                          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 58754

                            #14
                            Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                            Steve obviously gets his talking points from all the other America haters at the Democratic Underground.
                            There ARE a lot of America Haters at DU these days. They are DLC operatives trying to convert the site into a Kerry spin machine.
                            Eat Us And Smile

                            Cenk For America 2024!!

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                            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                            • Dr. Love
                              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 7825

                              #15
                              Well, why wouldn't they try? It worked with Spain.
                              I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

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