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BigBadBrian
10-03-2005, 03:40 PM
Should the U.S. Supreme Court -- or ANY U.S. court -- use foreign law to interpret the U.S. Constitution?

As you know, they already have. To date at least six Justices have cited foreign law in written opinions. With increasing frequency the Supreme Court looks to constitutions, law, and trends of foreign countries when examining cases.

With last week's Senate confirmation of John Roberts as the next Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, and today's nomination of Harriet Miers to be Justice Sandra Day O'Connor's replacement, the timing of this national civics debate couldn't be more appropriate. How justices choose to interpret the Constitution and its original intent should be central to this discussion.

During his confirmation hearing, John Roberts said it best when characterizing the cherry-picking of foreign law to interpret the United States Constitution as "a misuse of precedent."

Article VI of the U.S. Constitution clearly provides in the Supremacy Clause, "This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; And all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the Supreme Law of the Land."

As Rep. Tom Feeney (R-FL) has noted, "The U.S. Constitution exemplifies our nation's independence from foreign law and precedent. The Supreme Court's increasing tendency to reference foreign law rather than the original intent of the Constitution jeopardizes the sovereignty of our nation. The American people have not authorized through Congress or through a constitutional amendment the use of foreign laws to establish new law or deny rights here in the United States."

Rep. Feeney, along with Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-VA), has introduced the "Reaffirmation of American Independence Resolution" (H. Res. 97) to take a strong stand against this new -- and dangerous trend. But this resolution needs a LOT more co-sponsors to guarantee it will get to a vote in front of the whole House -- and that it will pass.

We need to DEMAND that our Representatives (Republican AND Democrat) sign up as co-sponsors of this bill -- and that they support it all the way through passage.

TAKE ACTION: The Feeney/Goodlatte Resolution (H. Res. 97) currently has 67 co-sponsors, including the House Constitution Subcommittee Chairman Chabot and 14 other Members of the House Judiciary Committee. The resolution states:

"Expressing the sense of the House of Representatives that judicial determinations regarding the meaning of the Constitution of the United States should not be based on judgments, laws, or pronouncements of foreign institutions unless such foreign judgments, laws, or pronouncements inform an understanding of the original meaning of the Constitution of the United States."

This resolution affirms the sense of Congress that judicial decisions interpreting the U.S. Constitution should not be based on any foreign laws, court decisions, or pronouncements of foreign governments unless they are expressly approved by Congress. Click "Go!" above NOW to send a FREE message to YOUR Congressman, asking him or her to sign up as a co-sponsor of H. Res. 97, and to support it all the way through passage.

NOTE: Be sure to forward this message to EVERYONE you know who wants to help STOP courts from using foreign law to interpret the U.S. Constitution. Thank you!

Link (http://capwiz.com/sicminc/issues/alert/?alertid=8078481&type=CO)

Hardrock69
10-03-2005, 05:33 PM
I was going to say, the title of the article is minda moot as it is already going on.

Stupid fuckers....The law should require that ONLY U.S. LAW be cited when interpreting the U.S. Constitution.

This country is going to Hell in a handbasket....

Warham
10-03-2005, 05:33 PM
You can thank the libs on the bench for doing this sort of thing.

Nitro Express
10-03-2005, 06:14 PM
The Supreme Court lost me when they ruled that big developers can evict homeowners so the land can be used for commercial purposes. That goes right against the Bill of Rights. So hell, the Supreme Court is not even following the US Constitution and what's scarier, the president, congress, nor the puplic as a whole calls them out on it.

All three branches of govt. The Judicial, Executive, and Legislative branches have sold out to domestic big business and foriegn investors. They will change any law they want for money.

Nickdfresh
10-03-2005, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by Warham
You can thank the libs on the bench for doing this sort of thing.

And conservatives too you fool!

FORD
10-03-2005, 07:28 PM
Once 5 conservative judges took the largest shit in history on the Constitution on December 12, 2000, the right wing lost any pretense of "credibility" when it comes to so-called "judicial activism".

And the irony is, Fat Tony Scalia didn't even get the payoff he was sure would be his.

Warham
10-03-2005, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
And conservatives too you fool!

No, no, we can all thank Ginsburg and her lefty crew for letting Wal-Mart come demolish our homes to build store number 5,000,001.

Nickdfresh
10-03-2005, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by Warham
No, no, we can all thank Ginsburg and her lefty crew for letting Wal-Mart come demolish our homes to build store number 5,000,001.

She was a conservative REAGAN appointee you buffoon...Since when does the REPUBLICAN party support the property rights of poor people anyways?:D Check what's going to happen in LOUISIANA...

Beach front property for Jazzless, cultureless white yuppies...

FORD
10-03-2005, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by Warham
No, no, we can all thank Ginsburg and her lefty crew for letting Wal-Mart come demolish our homes to build store number 5,000,001.

You can't blame lefties for Wal Mart. We don't even shop there!

Warham
10-03-2005, 08:46 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
She was a conservative REAGAN appointee you buffoon...Since when does the REPUBLICAN party support the property rights of poor people anyways?:D Check what's going to happen in LOUISIANA...

Beach front property for Jazzless, cultureless white yuppies...

Ginsburg ain't conservative. She worked for the ACLU.

And furthermore, she was a Clinton appointee, you nimrod.

Nickdfresh
10-03-2005, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by Warham
Ginsburg ain't conservative. She worked for the ACLU.

And furthermore, she was a Clinton appointee, you nimrod.

Oh, I cuntfused her with JUSTICE O'CONNOR (who also voted for it)...

My bad.

Warham
10-03-2005, 08:59 PM
S'alright.

;)

Hardrock69
10-03-2005, 09:22 PM
Who the fuck cares? The Supreme Court (like all the rest of the fucking United States Government) is just a highly corrupt shadow of it's former self.

BigBadBrian
10-04-2005, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by FORD
You can't blame lefties for Wal Mart. We don't even shop there!


Bullshit.

You shop there in fucking DROVES. Wal-mart's sales figures prove it.

:gulp:

FORD
10-04-2005, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Bullshit.

You shop there in fucking DROVES. Wal-mart's sales figures prove it.

:gulp:

I've been to the local Wal-Mart exactly once, and it made me physically ill just walking around the place. And I didn't spend a dime, not even for the bottle of Coke I desperately needed at the time.

Wal Mart does far better in "red states". And not neccessarily because Busheep want to shop there, they just don't have any other goddamn choice, as the Wally World has gutted their small towns and forced everyone else out of business.

BigBadBrian
10-04-2005, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by FORD
And not neccessarily because Busheep want to shop there, they just don't have any other goddamn choice, as the Wally World has gutted their small towns and forced everyone else out of business.

This part is true enough, yet people such as yourself somehow seem to think it is proper to make fun of such people here on this board in the name of partisan politics. Simply amazing.

Some people here on this board, who shall remain nameless, constantly refer to Wal-Mart shoppers as "white trash." Hmm.....a good deal of the shoppers in my local Wal-Mart are Black and Asian. I'd say most Americans want to pay the lowest price for their groceries and basic necessities.

Both political parties are playing an equal part in the destruction of the American small business.