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BigBadBrian
10-06-2005, 05:27 PM
Rhymes with DI-FI
Oct 6, 2005
by Debra Saunders

San Francisco truly is The Special City. Not only has Mayor Gavin Newsom announced his plan for the city to provide free or cheap access to high-speed wireless Internet for all San Franciscans, he also has proclaimed wi-fi access a "fundamental right."

A fundamental right? I'm impressed. About one-quarter of students at San Francisco Unified School District score at "below basic" or "far below basic" on state reading tests. Those poor kids may not be able to read a book, they might not be able to afford a computer, but Newsom thinks they have a fundamental right to wi-fi. At least they can access free porn.

I presume a "fundamental right" to wi-fi means every San Franciscan has a right to a laptop computer and the chip that hooks laptops up to wi-fi.

Credit His Slickness with having the gift of the good stunt. Same-sex marriage? Ignore the law, and tell everyone that City Hall will approve them. The marriages won't be legal and the courts will be bound to invalidate them, but newlyweds won't blame the love-boat mayor.


Besides, I must admit, the Right to Wi-Fi isn't as embarrassing as other S.F. political fiascos, such as: the supervisors' vote to reject bringing the battleship Iowa to San Francisco. Then the whacko idea of making the battleship acceptable by turning it into a museum to the "don't ask/don't tell" policy on gays in the military.

Or the city ordinance that bans smoking outdoors on city property, including parks -- with a kindly exemption for golf courses.

Or the attempt by former Supervisor Matt Gonzalez to allow non-citizens to vote in school-board elections. Or the resolution by Supervisor Tom Ammiano praising protesters of a 2004 biotech conference "for their concern for the health, safety and well-being of the public and the environment." Or the vote to redesignate S.F. pet owners as "owners or guardians."

At least this stunt puts San Francisco not in the '50s or '60s or Stone Age, but in the future-looking pro-technology camp.

As Tim Cavanaugh, editor of the libertarian online voice Reason.com, noted, not too long ago city pols rejected adding new antennas to improve cell-phone reception "out of hysterical concerns that cell-phone towers would give brain cancer to children." In a sense, you could say the wi-fi scheme is progress in Luddite-town.

Google issued a statement that it submitted a proposal "to offer free wireless Internet access to the entire city of San Francisco." No doubt, many voters will believe there is such a thing as a free byte. After all, Google said so.

Except there is a price to be paid for the megabytes. Communications savant Tom Hazlette of the Manhattan Institute noted in a telephone interview that faster, better wireless Internet is being developed all the time. Cavanaugh sees the Newsom wi-fi scheme as a potential "digital white elephant."

S.F. Public Utilities Commissioner Adam Werbach wrote in The San Francisco Chronicle that TechConnect -- as Newsom calls his plan -- "challenges the existing monopolies and will foster competition necessary to provide universal high-speech, low-cost access." I doubt it. If it fostered competition, it wouldn't have a chance in this town.

As Hazlette sagely noted, "Why would anybody build any telecommunications facility if the government is going to step in and provide people a government right to it?" So rather than fostering competition, the Newsom scheme likely will hamper it.

Hazlette dismissed TechConnect as "vaporware." To wit: "There'll be a lot of publicity, and when it's over, there will be scattered service across the city. People who want reliable service will continue to buy it" -- from the private sector.

I tried to reach the mayor to find out how his philosophy guides him to believe that the city should get into the wi-fi business. I sent Newsom's communications director, Peter Ragone, a message on his Blackberry. I went on the city website and sent from there a request to the Newsom aide mentioned under the handy heading, "Schedule an Interview."

Ragone returned my call once, when I wasn't at my desk. The net result: Over two days, I didn't hear from Newsom before my deadline. Maybe it was one of those techno-glitches. Or maybe it was a taste of City Hall's vaporware.


Link (http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/debrasaunders/2005/10/06/159572.html)

4moreyears
10-06-2005, 08:25 PM
Brian,

The city will not likely incur any costs for the network. The provider will likely place equipment in the city for free in exchange for site host locations. Google will not charge the users but they will use an advertising revenue model where basically advertisers will pay for the service then advertise to the users. I am involved with the WiFi business and am familiar with the San Fransico project.

JH

BigBadBrian
10-06-2005, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by 4moreyears
Brian,

The city will not likely incur any costs for the network. The provider will likely place equipment in the city for free in exchange for site host locations. Google will not charge the users but they will use an advertising revenue model where basically advertisers will pay for the service then advertise to the users. I am involved with the WiFi business and am familiar with the San Fransico project.

JH

That's great for the clarification, but I'm sure somebody, SOMEWHERE, is going to model their city off of this and use municipal funds to do it with.

FORD
10-07-2005, 12:31 AM
My God, was that a coherent response from chain letter guy?? :eek:

4moreyears
10-07-2005, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
That's great for the clarification, but I'm sure somebody, SOMEWHERE, is going to model their city off of this and use municipal funds to do it with.

Phidelphia tried that model and it failed. They just contracted with Earthlink. Cities should run citied. When the Gov't gets involved in private enterprise it gets fucked up. Post Office is a prime example. Fed X and UPS do much better.

Here is the link so that dick Ford does not shut down the thread.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9587812/

FORD
10-07-2005, 04:13 PM
Originally posted by 4moreyears
Phidelphia tried that model and it failed. They just contracted with Earthlink. Cities should run citied. When the Gov't gets involved in private enterprise it gets fucked up. Post Office is a prime example. Fed X and UPS do much better.

Here is the link so that I can suck more dick and Ford does not shut down the thread.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9587812/

Hmmmm.... wonder why they failed in Philadelphia. Maybe because it's Comcast's home base, and they didn't like the free competition?

4moreyears
10-08-2005, 03:03 PM

4moreyears
10-08-2005, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Hmmmm.... wonder why they failed in Philadelphia. Maybe because it's Comcast's home base, and they didn't like the free competition?

They failed because Gov't Officials know nothing about building a network. They tried to do it in-house. Since technology needs to advance that requires R&D which requires constant investments. Most cities that want t do it want to charge their cost to pass savings on to their residents. Without profit to fuel R&D the network will eventually become obsolete. They should have better luck with the support of Earthlink, but they have no experience in WiFi just Dial-Up. I really do not think comcast has anything to do with it. If that was the case Dial-Up would be the only thing available in Virginia where AOL has their homebase.

Nickdfresh
10-08-2005, 05:27 PM
Originally posted by 4moreyears
They failed because Gov't Officials know nothing about building a network. They tried to do it in-house. Since technology needs to advance that requires R&D which requires constant investments. Most cities that want t do it want to charge their cost to pass savings on to their residents. Without profit to fuel R&D the network will eventually become obsolete. They should have better luck with the support of Earthlink, but they have no experience in WiFi just Dial-Up. I really do not think comcast has anything to do with it. If that was the case Dial-Up would be the only thing available in Virginia where AOL has their homebase.

Gov'ts not going to build the network. Twenty-five companies are vying to do it for free (the advertising revenue is a wet dream).

In fact, I've read rumor and speculation on another board that GOOGLE is building their own high-speed internet infastructure across North America. Then GOOGLE is going to set up their own web and they're going to offer it for free in return for the right to stream targeted advertising onto your harddrive...

Jerry Falwell
10-09-2005, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Gov'ts not going to build the network. Twenty-five companies are vying to do it for free (the advertising revenue is a wet dream).

In fact, I've read rumor and speculation on another board that GOOGLE is building their own high-speed internet infastructure across North America. Then GOOGLE is going to set up their own web and they're going to offer it for free in return for the right to stream targeted advertising onto your harddrive...


I don't know if I want any advertising streamed to my harddrive. :(