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Republicans vrs. Democrats
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Republicans:
Oct. 6, 2005
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- The federal budget deficit totaled $317 billion in fiscal 2005, which ended Sept. 30, the Congressional Budget Office said Thursday in its latest monthly budget estimate.
Democrats:
In 1998, the Federal budget reported its first surplus ($69 billion) since 1969. In 1999, the surplus nearly doubled to $125 billion, and then again in 2000 to $236 billion.
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Re: Republicans vrs. Democrats
Originally posted by 4moreyears
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I'd close this thread, but blueturk saved it with some actual FACTS.
And as I've told the Busheep before, know the realities of the school bus system in New Orleans before you pass judgement.
Those buses are NOT OWNED BY A SINGLE ENTITY, as is the case in most school districts, Galveston probably included.
Actually, from my memory, each bus is owned and operated by an independent contractor.
That's a lot of fucking phone calls for a mayor to make, and no time to do so.
And another fine example of the "privatization" which Republicans would like to do to every public utility on the planet. (As if Enron wasn't enough of a lesson in that department)Eat Us And Smile
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Well, if you want to attack privatization, fine.
Weren't the leeves in the hands of the public sector?
How did that go?Last edited by Pink Spider; 10-09-2005, 03:16 PM.Comment
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Originally posted by Pink Spider
Well, if you want to attack privatization, fine.
Weren't the leeves in the hands of the public sector?
How did that go?
Or because someone blew them up, according to conspiracy theorists. In which case it wouldn't matter who owned them.Eat Us And Smile
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Originally posted by FORD
The levees failed because Junior sent the money meant to fix them to his stupid assed war in Iraq.
I believe that it was also the private sector that wanted to help with food and water. Yet, the public sector (FEMA) held them back.Comment
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Originally posted by Pink Spider
Either way, it's the government's fault. If there were say, a private company in New Orleans that controlled the levees then perhaps they might have had a much higher stake in keeping the levees in better order.
Why would that be? They'll seek to "maximize profit" at the expense of those paying them. What would a private contractor have really have lost if the levees failed? They've already gotten paid, and can just claim Chapter 11. Like insurance companies that sell you policies in which they agree to cover certain events, then try to back out (unless you sue them).Comment
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Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Why would that be? They'll seek to "maximize profit" at the expense of those paying them. What would a private contractor have really have lost if the levees failed? They've already gotten paid, and can just claim Chapter 11. Like insurance companies that sell you policies in which they agree to cover certain events, then try to back out (unless you sue them).
What do government agencies usually get though? More money. Yeah, that won't happen again next time.Comment
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Originally posted by Pink Spider
Usually human beings don't want a mass murder charge to be held against them. You know, it's kind of bad for their business reputation and all.
What do government agencies usually get though? More money. Yeah, that won't happen again next time.Comment
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Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Mass murder charges? Name the last airline executive that was jailed for "mass murder" after a crash due to poor maintainance...
Still, if you choose to live in a coastal city below sea level or fly on a budget airline, you're taking a chance with your life.
Industry isn't perfect, but it's a lot more efficient than government. Because it has to be or it ceases to exist. You can't usually say that about government.Comment
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Originally posted by Pink Spider
OK, then forget what I wrote.
Still, if you choose to live in a coastal city below sea level or fly on a budget airline, you're taking a chance with your life.
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Originally posted by Pink Spider
OK, then forget what I wrote.
Still, if you choose to live in a coastal city below sea level or fly on a budget airline, you're taking a chance with your life.
Industry isn't perfect, but it's a lot more efficient than government. Because it has to be or it ceases to exist. You can't usually say that about government.
Ideally, it's both gov't and the private sector. The Army Corp of Engineers often serve as the overseer by appointing a general contractor. That contractor then bids out work to smaller firms. That way theres a nice set of checks and balances, and things get done in a cost effective manner. without anyone (like the Governors brother) getting part of the take. But when we're fighting wars and cutting taxes for the wealthiest Americans, it's hard to get anything done whether it's public or private sector. The money isn't going to be there either way.Comment
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