DAVE wrote "Intruder"? Who woulda thunk?

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  • Matt White
    • Jun 2004
    • 20446

    DAVE wrote "Intruder"? Who woulda thunk?

    I was just reading through an old CREEM mag...the one with DAVE on the cover(I know, there where many!)........

    Something caught my eye that I don't remember having seen...before or since......

    INTRUDER
    "I wrote that. Remember what I told you about the video? We made it with no consideration for the music at all. There was no story line that we tried to fit to "Pretty Woman", we simply made a movie like MGM, Hollywood-style. None of this conceptual video stuff. When we finished the movie, it was about three minutes too long for the song, so I said, "We won't cut any of it, we'll write soundtrack music for the beginning. So we went into the studio and I played the synthesizer and I wrote it---it took about an hour to put that together. It was rerecorded for the album."

    Fancy trying a whole soundtrack for a film?
    "Not at all---but I did want to try. As you well know, after you've sold a million records, you become an internationally-recognized expert in everything!"



    Which got me thinking......

    "How much of CLASSIC VAN HALEN's music did DAVE have a direct hand in writing?

    Could explain why his leaving affected the music so dramaticly.......

    Let's get some opinions on this.........
  • BRANDON
    Roadie
    • May 2004
    • 109

    #2
    dave was van halen. period

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    • PHOENIX
      Veteran
      • Jan 2004
      • 2212

      #3
      Dave orchestrated every little detail that made CVH Grate.

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      • Jérôme Frenchise
        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
        • Nov 2004
        • 7173

        #4
        Great thanks, Matt, for sharing this.

        When I first read "Crazy from the heat", I expected to learn about Diamond's precise involvement in the making of CVH's music... but there is nothing really enlightening about thatin the book, unfortunately.
        It is often said that he was always implied in arrangements a lot, that's for sure.
        I once read that, for instance, "Take your Whiskey Home" or "Bottoms Up" are his works, but Dave himself didn't say it, only the journalist did (and we all know they don't always write stuff they are really sure about...).
        Like you, I'm very curious to learn about it, and a bit surprised it hasn't been discussed here yet (at least as far as I know).
        Last edited by Jérôme Frenchise; 10-24-2005, 12:57 PM.
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        • ZahZoo
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Jan 2004
          • 8961

          #5
          Yeah right... Dave wrote Eruption too...
          "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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          • Matt White
            • Jun 2004
            • 20446

            #6
            Originally posted by ZahZoo
            Yeah right... Dave wrote Eruption too...
            Come on now ZZ.....'Ya callin' DAVE a liar?!?!


            We know he played guitar on "Ice Cream Man" "Take your Whiskey Home" & probably BIG BAD BILL..........

            AND...he had that same arranging class as one "EVH" back in the college days.........


            Hmmmmmm....food for thought.................

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            • Dirty Duck
              Sniper
              • Aug 2005
              • 790

              #7
              Thanks matt! I believe that he wrote it....look at the songwriting after he left the band....garbage. When you're young ..hungry...and willing ,shit,you can do anything! Rock on Dave...

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              • ZahZoo
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Jan 2004
                • 8961

                #8
                Originally posted by Matt White
                Come on now ZZ.....'Ya callin' DAVE a liar?!?!


                We know he played guitar on "Ice Cream Man" "Take your Whiskey Home" & probably BIG BAD BILL..........

                AND...he had that same arranging class as one "EVH" back in the college days.........


                Hmmmmmm....food for thought.................
                Matt I'd say Dave embellished a lot of shit back then. Liar... well let's just say the truth and what's printed in the old fan magazines weren't always attached at the hip. How many people still believe Ed boiled his strings to get the brown sound..?

                Intruder was recorded right about the time when Ed was getting his deal going with Moog Synthesizers. Listen to the backing keyboard rhythms on Dancin in the Street simular sound and effects. Could be Dave wanking around on the keys may sparked the idea behind the main intruder backing riff. But it all sounds too Edward to me.
                "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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                • Northern Girl
                  Full Member Status

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 3955

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ZahZoo
                  How many people still believe Ed boiled his strings to get the brown sound..?
                  One for sure, and it's his birthday today.
                  Same ole song and dance...

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                  • rustoffa
                    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 8943

                    #10
                    Dave's responsible for virtually all the lyrics to the originals'...lyrics dictate arrangements....yadda-yadda...noone needs an abacus.

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                    • jhale667
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 20929

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ZahZoo
                      How many people still believe Ed boiled his strings to get the brown sound..?

                      No, he boiled his strings to pre-stretch them, which helped stabilize his tuning with the early (non-finetunable) Floyd Roses. So there. (Actually, I think he did it with his old Fender bridges, too. Cool trick, but you have to dry 'em in the sun or they rust all to shit....)
                      Last edited by jhale667; 10-24-2005, 07:47 PM.
                      Originally posted by conmee
                      If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                      That is all.

                      Icon.
                      Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                      I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                      Originally posted by Isaac R.
                      Then it's really true??:eek:

                      The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                      OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                      Originally posted by eddie78
                      I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                      • ELVIS
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 44120

                        #12
                        Originally posted by PHOENIX
                        Dave orchestrated every little detail that made CVH Grate.
                        That's not just not true...

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                        • ELVIS
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 44120

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Matt White
                          We know he played guitar on "Take your Whiskey Home"......

                          No way! You can't recognize Edward ??

                          Dave did not play that intro, no way, no how!


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                          • jhale667
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 20929

                            #14
                            Pretty sure Dave played the intro to 'Ice Cream Man', but I agree with Elvis, 'Take your Whiskey Home' is all Ed.
                            Originally posted by conmee
                            If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                            That is all.

                            Icon.
                            Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                            I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                            Originally posted by Isaac R.
                            Then it's really true??:eek:

                            The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                            OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                            Originally posted by eddie78
                            I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                            • rustoffa
                              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 8943

                              #15
                              Did Dave play Spanish fly?
                              Fuck, did Ed play it?

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