Is there one Van Hagar song that can stand up against a Van HALEN classic ??

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I'm really trying objectively to find one, just one song made during the first Sham and the Shirellas era that could come close to being considered a "classic"....

Now I don't mean something like "Big Bad Bill" or "Dancing in the Streets".....

I mean songs like ATBL, Unchained, or YRGM......

That to me is the main issue, the music is far inferior !!! There's just no comparison !!!!

[L.S.D.]

Poundcake, humans Being, Seventh seal.....and many,many more. douche.

[Sarge]

Classic VH is timeless.
I can't think of one song.

Hmm..
Nope.
All of Van Hagar's stuff sucks
This is probably not a good time to ask this question here
:)

[Sarge]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
Poundcake, humans Being, Seventh seal.....and many,many more. douche.

Hahahaha
Buahhaaaa

VH made their best Music with Dave..
That can't be denied.

[L.S.D.]

sure It can. Its called opinion.

[PHOENIX]

For me personally the only cool riff Eddie put out during the Hagar years was Humans Being. Other than that there's nothing else that compares biatch!

[L.S.D.]

nice journey/vh logo. puke.

[PHOENIX]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
nice journey/vh logo. puke.

Thats a trans-am symbol you fucking jizzum queen!

[BruinJer]

I like AFU.... that's as close to the real thing as you can get, IMO

[Igosplut]

This hagar troll isnt even remotely funny.......

[L.S.D.]

Originally posted by PHOENIX
Thats a trans-am symbol you fucking jizzum queen!

keep telling yourself that. and when was that last relevant? 1984? dork.

[PHOENIX]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
keep telling yourself that. and when was that last relevant? 1984? dork.

When was Van Hagar ever relevant?:cool:

[L.S.D.]

from 1986-1995 with 4 #1 albums and millions of fans. Wake up.

[PHOENIX]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
from 1986-1995 with 4 #1 albums and millions of fans. Wake up.


Hmmmmm Micheal Jackson has sold millions of albums. It doesnt make him any cooler.

[L.S.D.]

it makes him relevan though. and eddie played with him when dlr was in.

[PHOENIX]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
it makes him relevan though. and eddie played with him when dlr was in.

You have it the other way around. Micheal was playing with Eddie and Dave was in Valerie that day.:D

[L.S.D.]

Phoenix, youre cool man. sorry to be on the other side of the fence on this when I chat with normal peeps like yourself.

[Igosplut]

[i] relevan though. [/B]

You can format HTML and not even use the spell check?....

Shithead.....

[PHOENIX]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
Phoenix, youre cool man. sorry to be on the other side of the fence on this when I chat with normal peeps like yourself.

LOL i know who you are now.;)

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
Poundcake, humans Being, Seventh seal.....and many,many more. douche.

Thanks for the chuckle, cocksmoker....

You've got to be fucking kidding me with that crap....

[guitarslinger]

ok those riffs aren't bad but the energy isn't there. just my opinion.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Originally posted by guitarslinger
ok those riffs aren't bad but the energy isn't there. just my opinion.

I agree bro, not bad by any stretch....

But nowhere near the raw power created in the early VH albums....

[guitarslinger]

does this LSD guy work for the record industry? All this "6 million copies" bullshit makes me wonder!!

if not go get a job at Sony or work for ASCAP because your about as stupid as one of those A&R guys.

[POJO_Risin]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
Poundcake, humans Being, Seventh seal.....and many,many more. douche.

You are a fucking idiot...you must be kidding...

Poundcake...about Mikey slappin' Sammy's fatass...yeah...I can see why that would be a classic for you...

Human's Being...Eddie plays what...2 chords on that...and the lyrics...lol...fucking stupid...

Seventh Seal...bwahahahahahahaha...sounds like something Toad the Wet Sprocket might put out...

Good call moron...

[rikredbrain]

age, kids, and an unhealthy supply of booze and ego play havoc with a bands energy and output.............. van halen are tottaly out of touch now.... a tribute band to themselves....

[POJO_Risin]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
sure It can. Its called opinion.

Opinions are like assholes...everyone has one...

then there's fact...

and you have none...

[guitarslinger]

AMEN to that!!!!!

[POJO_Risin]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
nice journey/vh logo. puke.

Having a logo that LOOKS like Journey is a lot better than SOUNDING like Journey...and guess what...you Sham and the Shirellas does just that...

[guitarslinger]

Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
I agree bro, not bad by any stretch....

But nowhere near the raw power created in the early VH albums....

totally true, no arguing there!!

[POJO_Risin]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
from 1986-1995 with 4 #1 albums and millions of fans. Wake up.

Yeah...without one song that will stand through time...not one...

Since you want to bring rankings into this...you idiot...look through any TOP 500 poll...and see how many of your idiot Bette Midler songs make it...

if you're lucky...you'll get that fucking Crystal Pepsi song...

Relevance?...look and see how many Roth/VH songs transcend time...

and you're the idiot that brought up the album sales...and rankings...not I...

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
Poundcake, humans Being, Seventh seal.....and many,many more. douche.

you're so right...I guess that's why I still hear these classics on the radio every day...instead of RWTD or ATBL or Jump or...and if you once will read the great history of van halen in a book it will say... van halen the band that became famous with "poundcake"...

[POJO_Risin]

DavidLeeNatra...didn't you know it was all about opinion!!!!

Yeah...opinion...

Remember in 1996...when Roth was back in...what everyone was fucking saying...in the Rock Industry (of course...their opinion shouldn't count...what would they know)...

It was like Sammy was NEVER THERE TO BEGIN WITH...

lmfao...kinda like now...

[POJO_Risin]

Seventh Seal...hahahahahahaha...was that one of the seven songs that started off with a helicopter sound...

lol...Van Leppard...hahahahaha...

what a joke...

or did it start with a fucking wind chime...like every song did on that album...

there's attitude...sounding like you walked into "Granny's old Time Wind Chime" store...

yeah...classic alright...like one of those turds you dropped in the commode that was a foot long and didn't break apart...

[pete]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
from 1986-1995 with 4 #1 albums and millions of fans. Wake up.

5150 sold on the success of previous albums.

every album sold progressively less once Hagar joined.

[POJO_Risin]

It doesn't matter how much they sell right off...all those albums got to number 1...which means they sold right out of the gate...

Classic VH didn't have to go #1...they just stood the test of time...and continued to sell...

not that that matters to Hagar...because according to him...he's sold 500 million albums with VH...

[thefive]

VAN HAGAR SUCKS!!!!!

THEFIVE

[Lou]

Not a chance in the world. I *like* about 4 Van Hagar songs (meaning I think they're good but not great): Summer Nights, the song 5150, A.F.U., Judgment Day.

None of them matches the attitude and the overall feeling of even the lesser Van HALEN songs.

[guitarslinger]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
from 1986-1995 with 4 #1 albums and millions of fans. Wake up.

also keep in mind, classic VH played at the US festival in front of almost 400,000. did sam halen play in front of that many at the monsters of rock festival? afraid not!!!

[thefive]

EXACTLY!!!
Attitude was One of the Keys.

thefive

[rikredbrain]

in my opinion sammy was a poor replacement... in a band dedicated to livin large...... fast..... and loud!!

david went on to live up to that with his solo stuff. and even if you dont like the newer stuff it still holds up to his ideals....

i.e havin a damn good time..... and at near 50 he fuckin well is...

[pete]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
It doesn't matter how much they sell right off...all those albums got to number 1...which means they sold right out of the gate...

Classic VH didn't have to go #1...they just stood the test of time...and continued to sell...

not that that matters to Hagar...because according to him...he's sold 500 million albums with VH...

Balance went to #1?

I can't even remember a song off of it.

[POJO_Risin]

I think Balance went to number 1...but of course...the only fucking idiots that would know that would be Hagar fans...

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by POJO_Risin
DavidLeeNatra...didn't you know it was all about opinion!!!!


sorry...I forgot...I'm here to learn from L.S.D.

[guitarslinger]

eat em and smile kicked ass!! i saw that tour and they played VH shit better than VH but the attitude was still different.

[pete]

Originally posted by rikredbrain
and even if you dont like the newer stuff it still holds up to his ideals....



totally

I like 'em all

He can stamp his energy and style on any song.

[POJO_Risin]

EEAS was a great album...yeah...it had attitude...it wasn't Classic VH...but certainly stands out on it's own...

but the fact of the matter is that it has nothing to do with Classic vs. Crystal...

[guitarslinger]

that's for sure

[PHOENIX]

Sting was cool with the Police. Sting solo sucks.

Van Hagar is like Sting solo. IT JUST SUCKS.:D

[PHOENIX]

:D

[thefive]

Balance went to #1?

I can't even remember a song off of it.

That is funny as hell Pete.

I can't even think of 1 2

[pete]

"Dreams" sound like one of those cheesy, 80's movie, "Top Gun" songs by a band you can't name.

[pete]

Originally posted by thefive
Balance went to #1?

I can't even remember a song off of it.

That is funny as hell Pete.

I can't even think of 1 2

I heard a boot of that tour. Sounds like there playing small places.

The closing songs:
ATBL
When It's Love
You really got me
JUMP

no lie
no insult intended

Though I fucking hate 'em

[pete]

Balance is about as memorable as my own birth.

[guitarslinger]

hell i dont even remeber what the fuckin single was!

[pete]

I didn't even listen to the boot. I just looked at the song list. LOL

the whole 2nd set was 60% classic, mighty VH

[pete]

Pat Benatar has more credibility than VAN HAGAR.

GOD-Damn

[Lou]

Originally posted by PHOENIX
Sting was cool with the Police. Sting solo sucks.

Van Hagar is like Sting solo. IT JUST SUCKS.:D

And that's an excellent comparison, because Sting solo is all about "easy listening" ballads. Just like Van Hagar was about sellout love songs. And notice how both bands fell apart when one person decided that selling out was more important than making kick-ass music. Meaning Eddie with his synthesizer foray starting on 1984 and Sting with his wuss ballads starting on Synchronicity (actually with the last two songs on Ghost in the Machine.)

I think there's another comparison that can be made: Aerosmith on drugs versus Aerosmith off drugs. Aerosmith on drugs was really kick-ass, heavy shit. Aerosmith off drugs is sellout ballads and hiring songwriters from Sweden to help out.

[Paul Belfi]

I'll say this...

The tune FINISH WHAT YA STARTED with DLR on vocals would be an AMAZING track.

Dave's bluesy voice would be KILLER on that track!

Paul

[Big Troubles]

Yuk. Anything after 5150 I stopped imagining Dave singing any of those songs. He was suited to sing a few off of 5150, partially because he co wrote and laid down a few tracks prior to "quitting". Summer Nights was one of those songs, and I believe Good Enough was the other. Correct me if Im wrong.

I loved seeing Dave on the sapranos tonight too BTW. Looked and sounded very cool and comfortable. He's got a few more episodes to go too.

[degüello]

I've seen quite a few Roth fanatics claiming that Humans Being is the "only Hagar song that rocks and has great guitar". I disagree completely.

Very boring guitar part. Rudimentary, beginners-first- time chords, played in an extremely uninspired manner. You can almost hear Eddie saying, "Yeah, everybody's played this before, but when I do it, it just sounds so special..."

[degüello]

Not to mention the overprocessed, life-sucked-right-out-of-it guitar tone.

[MAX]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
I loved seeing Dave on the sapranos tonight too BTW. Looked and sounded very cool and comfortable. He's got a few more episodes to go too.

Damn, I wish I didn't dump my HBO package from DirecTV. So, it's not just a one time "guest appearance" gig?

[degüello]

Originally posted by PHOENIX
Sting was cool with the Police. Sting solo sucks.

Van Hagar is like Sting solo. IT JUST SUCKS.:D

Well put, and very true.

[Tony Soprano]

Originally posted by guitarslinger
also keep in mind, classic VH played at the US festival in front of almost 400,000. did sam halen play in front of that many at the monsters of rock festival? afraid not!!!


And got paid 1.5 Mil to do the concert in 1983! Still holds up today in the Guiness Book Of World Records!;)

[Sarge]

damm Pojo threw it to them in this thread..

[General Hina]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
keep telling yourself that. and when was that last relevant? 1984? dork.

What a coincidence! that's the last time David Lee roth was relevant too.

Over & Out,
General Hina

[General Hina]

Originally posted by MAX
Damn, I wish I didn't dump my HBO package from DirecTV. So, it's not just a one time "guest appearance" gig?

No he'll be on a few more times then Tony's going to whack him for being an annoying goofbag who can't sing.

Over & Out,
General Hina

[tjvhou812]

dont know about that... dlr = ratings

[pete]

Originally posted by General Hina
No he'll be on a few more times then Tony's going to whack him for being an annoying goofbag who can't sing.

Over & Out,
General Hina

General Hina

His Mouth blows tools in a starry night
and his greasy hide - is open wide
His rimming men and boys alike
I know, He's fucking gay
but I doubt he's a man
He likes it unlubricated
He likes dick 2 at a time

Hina
says burst yer shit inside of me
hina
he know's he's a fucking queen
hina
he'd blow david lee
and swallow everything

Come back
Is what his mama say
Come back
Cause daddy wants to play

[MAX]

Originally posted by General Hina
No he'll be on a few more times then Tony's going to whack him for being an annoying goofbag who can't sing.

Over & Out,
General Hina


No, you'll be posting a few more times with the same worthless drivel. I only wish that Tony would whack you for being an annoying goofbag who can't take a hint. Make like a tree prick.

[FORD]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
Poundcake, humans Being, Seventh seal.....and many,many more. douche.

You can't say Poundcake AND Seventh Seal They're the same fucking song!!

Judgment Day is probably the closest Van Hagar ever got to musical greatness, but Sammy's high pitched screech and dumb lyrics really screwed it up.

[FORD]

Originally posted by PHOENIX
Thats a trans-am symbol you fucking jizzum queen!

When you think about it, it's really ironic that a Hagar fan wouldn't recognize a Trans-Am symbol.

[L.S.D.]

Im a van halen fan, not a hagar fan.

[tjvhou812]

van halen kicks w/hagar or roth at the helm... say songs like poundcake suck all yu want but thats a great f@ckin tune

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
Im a van halen fan, not a hagar fan.

Changing your mind like your underwear I see. Yesterday you were Hagar praising. Today it is different? be gone with you already.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Big Troubles
Changing your mind like your underwear I see. Yesterday you were Hagar praising. Today it is different? be gone with you already.

No, he's consistent for once. What he means to say is that he's an Eddie sheep. He's so blind in his devotion to the Lying Dutchmen that he actually believes "How Do I Know When It's Cheese" is as timeless as "Unchained"

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by FORD
No, he's consistent for once. What he means to say is that he's an Eddie sheep. He's so blind in his devotion to the Lying Dutchmen that he actually believes "How Do I Know When It's Cheese" is as timeless as "Unchained"

Yeah too many Johnny Come Lately's" around here eh? Ed stopped playing the electric guitar in 1985 when Sam joined. From 85 on it's all effect pedals and distorion signals to help drown that mono toned Fagar voice. Every tune after dave left has been a radio tune. That says it all. Radio is not rock n roll. Its Commercialized. Thus making Sam Van Halen the Cheese. :lol:

[vh1978-1984]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
Poundcake, humans Being, Seventh seal.....and many,many more. douche.
you got beat up a lot in school didn't you. van halen with roth was fun and exciting and with hagar it was boring and predictable aor crap. you don't like metal do you?

[pete]

Originally posted by vh1978-1984
you got beat up a lot in school didn't you. van halen with roth was fun and exciting and with hagar it was boring and predictable aor crap. you don't like metal do you?

With Roth they had there own style.
They were not metal or any category.
They were their own category.

with Hagar It sounds like Pop with EVH. (on anti-depressants)

[beto]

L.S.D ,
FUCK OFF, YOU AND THAT PIECE OF SHIT SPAMMY.

ROTH RULES.

[pardo]

Originally posted by degüello
Not to mention the overprocessed, life-sucked-right-out-of-it guitar tone.

NO FUCKING SHIT!

[pardo]

I will say this. Best of Both Words is a decent song. Sammie included.

And there's a small handfull of tunes that I like the music to (Fat Sam not included). Like Pleasure Dome - it rocks pretty hard. Sammie doesn't deserve to sing on Judgement Day.

Thats about it from the Hagar catalog.