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  • POJO_Risin
    Roth Army Caesar
    • Mar 2003
    • 40648

    Pat Riley in, Stan Van Gundy "steps down for family reason"

    Um...HORSESHIT!!!!

    Van Gundy quits for family reasons; Riley will return to bench
    Dec. 12, 2005
    CBS SportsLine.com wire reports




    MIAMI -- Pat Riley and Stan Van Gundy walked off the dais together Monday, then went in opposite directions.

    Riley packed his tailored suits and headed back to the NBA sidelines, looking to add another entry to his long and glowing coaching résumé. Van Gundy simply went home.

    Months after he said he wanted to reclaim more of a hands-on role with the Miami Heat -- a comment that prompted rampant speculation he was about to fire his former protégé -- Riley returned to the business of coaching. Van Gundy quit to spend more time with his family, and will stay with the team in a limited capacity.

    "I was happy for him when I hired him 11 years ago," Riley said. "I was happy for him when I stepped aside and gave him an opportunity that was well-deserved. And I am happy for him today, absolutely."

    Riley, 60, said he hasn't looked at a playbook in two years. He's probably doing that right now for Tuesday night's game in Chicago.

    "I think I know my way around a 94-by-50 court," Riley said. "I know what the hell I'm doing when I'm out there. But right now, I'm a little bit lost. So I'm going to depend a lot on the staff that we have presently. But no, I really wasn't thinking about replacements."

    Riley said he spent the last six weeks trying to persuade Van Gundy to stay, and his former top assistant insisted his decision was voluntary. Players, who were not available for comment because they were traveling, were told Monday morning.

    Van Gundy's job security has been scrutinized since the Heat lost Game 7 of the Eastern Conference finals to Detroit at home last June -- a game where Miami's superstars, Shaquille O'Neal and Dwyane Wade, were both injured.

    The Heat entered the season with big ambitions, but they are just 11-10, although Miami has been hit by injuries, including a sprained ankle that sidelined O'Neal for all but three games.

    "If I'm getting forced out, I would have gotten absolutely every dollar on my contract and walked out the door," Van Gundy said. "That's not what happened here. ... Anybody who's speculating otherwise has to do so in total disregard of the facts of the situation."

    Riley came to the Heat in 1995 after winning four titles with the "Showtime" Los Angeles Lakers of Magic Johnson and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, followed by a stint with the Knicks. He has won 1,110 games in 21 seasons, the third-highest victory total in NBA history.

    Van Gundy has always professed to being a family-first man, someone who abhors road trips and the idea of spending holidays away from his wife and four children. He said that because of travel, games and practices, he would have seen his children at home only 49 days out of 170 this season.

    "That's just not enough any more for me. It's just not enough," Van Gundy said. "I mean, it's been like that for my kids' entire lives. I've got a 14-year-old daughter and it started to hit me when I started thinking about her birthday, which was last month. I've got four more years left with her. Four. And then she'll be off to college and I'm just not willing to sacrifice any more of those four more years."
    "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."
  • POJO_Risin
    Roth Army Caesar
    • Mar 2003
    • 40648

    #2
    Van Gundy quits for family reasons; Riley will return to bench

    Van Gundy said he began wrestling with the balance between job and family during the preseason, and told Riley after the regular-season opener at Memphis that they needed to talk about the future.

    "I can't believe people have that big a problem actually believing that someone would actually want to spend time with their family," Van Gundy said. "I don't know why that's so hard for people to buy into."

    Riley resigned as Heat coach shortly before the 2003-04 season, walking into Van Gundy's office one morning and asking his top assistant, "You ready?" Van Gundy went 42-40 in his first season, then 59-23 last year when Miami was the No. 1 seed for the East playoffs.

    The team underwent a major roster shakeup this offseason, with Riley saying he was building a team to win a title now. Eddie Jones, Damon Jones and Rasual Butler were among those moving on; Riley brought in Antoine Walker, Jason Williams and James Posey, among others, to replace them.

    And winning respect of the players won't be a difficult chore for Riley. Most of them call him "Coach" already, and O'Neal commonly refers to him as "the great Pat Riley."

    That's why he has no qualms about taking over, even if he truly wanted Van Gundy to stay.

    "I have a responsibility to this team and to the players that I traded for, the picks," Riley said. "And I think right now, at this moment, that I'm the best person to do that."

    The move came nearly four years to the day after Jeff Van Gundy, Stan's brother, resigned as Knicks coach 19 games into the 2001-02 season. Jeff Van Gundy, now the Houston Rockets coach, said at the time he'd lost his focus and thought about quitting since that summer.

    "The question I've always had for him is, 'Why did you go back,'" Stan Van Gundy said.

    He also had the same question for Riley during a recent meeting they had at his Malibu, Calif., home. Riley flew out during a recent Heat road trip, bringing Van Gundy over for a final pitch to keep him as coach.

    Instead, the talk only strengthened Van Gundy's belief that leaving was the right idea.

    "I regret the timing," Van Gundy said. "I think that for the team, it stinks. The timing of it stinks. And I wish that I could have made the decision in the offseason, but in the offseason, you don't feel like
    "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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    • conmee
      ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
      • Mar 2003
      • 1945

      #3
      Going back to pornos I suppose...

      That is all.

      GO IRISH!!!

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      • Eyes of the Night
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        • Jan 2004
        • 1993

        #4
        Intersting indeed ...

        I'm seattle bound if I don't get this job tommorow ...

        Congrats on #800 there ya ol slug! ...
        Broken down n' dirty dressed in rags ...

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        • conmee
          ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
          • Mar 2003
          • 1945

          #5
          Holy SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll get to 1000 eventually!!!!

          Rock on Eyes... hope you get the job, but if not, you can get back up here just in time to jump on the Seahawks bandwagon... lol

          That is all.

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          • LoungeMachine
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Jul 2004
            • 32555

            #6
            It's not really Pat Riley.

            It's Michael Douglas posing as Riley.


            And the Seahawk's Bandwagon is near capacity.

            That is all.

            Go Frighten Irish
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            I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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            • Brett
              Full Member Status

              • Jan 2004
              • 3537

              #7
              He was a shitty coach anyway.

              However, don't tell me that the fat fuck had nothing to do with it. Of course he did.

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              • Romeo Delight
                ROCKSTAR

                • Feb 2005
                • 5139

                #8
                Riley had always planned on doing exactly this. Why else would he hire the little porno star!!

                Now he can be the messiah to lead them to the promised land (Oh, yeah, isn't Shaq back now?)
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                • Pastor Bruce S.
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                  • Jul 2005
                  • 44

                  #9
                  Pat Riley is the best coach in the history of the NBA. Bar none.
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                  • ALinChainz
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                    • Jan 2004
                    • 12082

                    #10
                    Bar none?

                    Red Auerbach?

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                    • Pastor Bruce S.
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                      • Jul 2005
                      • 44

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ALinChainz
                      Bar none?

                      Red Auerbach?
                      Red Auerbach coached at a time when there were eight teams in the league. His road through the playoffs were far less brutal. On top of that, being the best team in the league still meant you got essentially a lottery pick after winning the championship. This is coming from a Celtics fan too.
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                      • ALinChainz
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                        • Jan 2004
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                        #12
                        What's Riley done since the Lakers?

                        Been a LONG time ... and has coached a couple teams since to absolutely nothing.

                        The best ever?

                        Like Phil Jackson in some ways in my opinion.

                        A good coach no question, and ONE of the best.
                        Last edited by ALinChainz; 12-13-2005, 12:45 PM.

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                        • ALinChainz
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                          • Jan 2004
                          • 12082

                          #13
                          And a much different game back then too ... tougher.

                          The players didn't have the 3 pointer, and you couldn't travel and carry the ball constantly like you do now.

                          He coached the Lakers, who were stacked. Also lost some titles.

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                          • Pastor Bruce S.
                            Full On Cocktard
                            • Jul 2005
                            • 44

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ALinChainz
                            What's Riley done since the Lakers?

                            Been a LONG time ... and has coached a couple to teams since to absolutely nothing.

                            The best ever?

                            Like Phil Jackson in some ways in my opinion.
                            He took the Knick teams that had no business being that competitive, far into the playoffs. He took over a Knick organization that was a joke and brought instant credibility to the franchise. Riley maximizes the talent that he has to their fullest potential. He turned CBA guys like John Starks and Anthony Mason into all-stars.

                            Those Knick teams were horrendous. Theyn were known as the "Bricks." Yet, he got them to game 7 of the NBA Finals. A game they would have won if Starks didn't go 2 for 27 or whatever and 0 for 11 on 3-pointers.

                            When he got to the Heat, he did the same thing. He didn't have the same talent that he did with Lakers. Despite all this, he got a bunch of unproven unknowns anchored by Zo Mourning, stressed defense, played macho ball, and were deep in the playoffs more often than not.

                            The man's influence just isn't with x's and o's but the profile of coaches. This guy is slick and set the standard for style for NBA coaches.
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                            • ALinChainz
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 12082

                              #15
                              Style don't put the ring on the finger though ... and it's been awhile since he's done that.

                              He will have the respect of the players for the rings he has, but they were long ago.

                              They might wanna get moving too before they get too far down in the East.

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