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  • Warham
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Mar 2004
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    Turnout Strong for Iraqi Parliamentary Vote

    Turnout Strong for Iraq Parliamentary Vote
    By BASSEM MROUE, Associated Press Writer

    47 minutes ago

    BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraqis voted Thursday in one of the largest and freest elections in the Arab world, with strong turnout reported in Sunni areas and even a shortage of ballots in some precincts. Several explosions rocked Baghdad throughout the day, but the level of violence was low.

    The heavy participation in the parliamentary voting by the Sunnis, who had shunned balloting last January, bolstered U.S. hopes of calming the insurgency enough to begin withdrawing its troops next year.

    But much depends on whether the sides, after the votes are counted, can form a government to reconcile Iraq's various communities, or merely fan the current tensions.

    Officials were forced to extend voting for one hour, until 6 p.m. (10 a.m. EST) as long lines were reported in some precincts, which election commission spokesman Farid Ayar called a sign that the balloting "was successful and turnout was good." Results will be announced within two weeks.

    Police guarding a polling place in eastern Baghdad's Zayouna neighborhood fired shots in the air to celebrate the end of voting there.

    When the polls opened, a mortar shell exploded near the heavily fortified Green Zone, slightly injured two civilians and a U.S. Marine, the U.S. military said. A civilian was killed when a mortar shell hit near a polling station in the northern city of Tal Afar, and a grenade killed a school guard near a voting site in Mosul.

    A bomb also exploded in Ramadi, a mortar round struck about 200 yards from a polling place in Saddam Hussein's hometown of Tikrit, and a bomb was defused at a voting site in Fallujah, despite promises by major insurgent groups not to attack such places.

    But violence was light overall and did not appear to discourage Iraqis, some of whom turned out wrapped in their flag on a bright, sunny day, and afterward displayed a purple ink-stained index finger _ a mark to guard against multiple voting. One jubilant Shiite voter in Baghdad proudly displayed all 10 of his fingers stained with ink.

    "The number of people participating is very, very high and we have had very few irregularities," U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad told The Associated Press. "It is a good day so far, good for us, good for Iraq."

    The Bush administration hopes the new parliament will include more Sunnis to help establish a government that can lure other Sunnis away from the insurgency. Such a development might make it possible for the United States and its partners to start to draw down their troops in 2006.

    "The Iraqi people are showing the world that all people _ of all backgrounds _ want to be able to choose their own leaders and live in freedom," said White House spokesman Scott McClellan.

    Elections in some other Arab countries also have shown movement toward greater freedom in recent months: Palestinians have voted in free local elections in recent months, and Egypt held its freest election ever this fall, but it was marred by violence, low turnout and police intimidation at the polls. Lebanese elections also are considered among the region's freest.

    With a nationwide vehicle ban in effect, most Iraqis walked to the polls. Streets were generally empty of cars, except for police, ambulances and a few others with special permits.

    An alliance of Shiite religious parties, which dominate the government, was expected to win the most seats, but not enough to form a new administration without a coalition with rival groups. That could set the stage for long and possibly bitter negotiations _ something the U.S. wants to avoid.

    The mood among voters varied. Sunnis, both in Baghdad and in provincial towns, were defiant, as if to assert their rights against the Shiites and the Americans. Shiites and Kurds seemed more hopeful the new government would be more successful than the outgoing one in restoring security and providing basic services. Shiites also appeared confident of retaining their leadership role.

    Up to 15 million Iraqis were eligible to vote elect 275 members of the first full-term parliament from among 7,655 candidates running on 996 tickets, representing Shiite, Sunni, Kurdish, Turkomen and sectarian interests across a wide spectrum. Iraqis do not vote for individual candidates, but instead for lists _ or tickets _ that compete for the seats in each of the 18 provinces.

    Sunnis appear to have turned out in large numbers _ even in insurgent bastions like Ramadi and Haqlaniyah _ to try to curb the power of Shiite clerical parties now in control.

    "I came here and voted in order to prove that Sunnis are not a minority in this country," said lawyer Yahya Abdul-Jalil in Ramadi. "We lost a lot during the last elections, but this time we will take our normal and key role in leading this country."

    Fallujah teacher Khalid Fawaz said he also took part "so that the Sunnis are no longer marginalized."

    Many others who turned out in Fallujah, which was overrun by U.S. forces in November 2004, saw the election as a way to get rid of the Americans and the Shiite-dominated government.

    "It's an extremist government. We would like an end to the occupation," said Ahmed Majid, 31.

    Fallujah's big turnout also caused problems, with voters, election officials and the mayor complaining of a shortage of voting materials. Mayor Dhari Youssef al-Arsan, who put turnout at about 45 percent, said 11 out of 35 polling stations did not get ballot boxes and some ran out of ballots early.

    "Three sites stopped because they ran out of ballots," he said. "We had an administrative problem opening polling sites in some of the centers."

    He said some voters told him that "they thought it was done purposely."

    Ayar said officials opened 167 of the planned 207 election centers in Anbar province due to security.

    Shiite parties also had urged a large turnout. Iraq's leading Shiite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, told Shiites to support candidates who defend their principles _ a veiled warning against turning toward secular politics.

    "They are clerics, and clerics do not steal our money," said Abbasiya Ahmad, 80, of Baghdad, as she voted for the Shiite religious bloc, the United Iraqi Alliance. "We want people who protect our money."

    In January, insurgent threats and boycott calls kept many Sunnis at home despite a nationwide turnout of nearly 60 percent. That enabled Shiites and Kurds to dominate the legislature, sharpening communal tensions and fueling the insurgency. This time, more Sunnis ran, and changes in the election law all but guaranteed their strong representation.

    Security was tight. Tens of thousands of Iraqi soldiers and police guarded the vote, with U.S. and other coalition forces standing by. U.S. troops and bomb-detecting dogs checked polling stations before handing them over to Iraqi police.

    "Sometimes it feels like we're beating a dead horse, but maybe this here today will be the culmination of it all," said Staff Sgt. Jason Scapanski, 33, of St. Cloud, Minn., assigned to the 101st Airborne in Salahuddin province north of Baghdad.

    In the northern cities of Mosul and Kirkuk, turnout also was brisk, especially in Kurdish districts.

    "This is the day to get our revenge from Saddam," said Kurdish voter Chiman Saleh, a Kirkuk housewife who said two of her brothers were killed by Saddam's regime.

    Ethnic tensions arose in Kirkuk, claimed by Arabs, Kurds and Turkomen. Norjan Adel, a poll watcher for the Turokman Front, complained of irregularities by the Kurds, including multiple voting.

    The mood was lighter in Mosul, where streets were like a big playground, with children playing games and turning roads into soccer fields. Families strolled together after voting, enjoying the day off.

    In Baghdad's predominantly Sunni Arab Azamiyah district, the head of one polling station said that by midday, about a third of the 3,500 registered voters had turned out. In January, many such stations in Azamiyah didn't even open.

    At Azamiyah's al-Nuaman school, voters had little enthusiasm for the Shiite coalition that has governed since April 28.

    "We want to choose Sunni candidates. We want them to be in power because they are capable of providing security and they do not kill or beat us," said Khali Ibrahim, 70, as he hobbled up the stairs leaning on a cane.

    Such comments reflect the sectarian tensions that threaten Iraq's future and the Bush administration strategy. Sunnis have repeatedly complained of abuse at the hands of Shiite-dominated security forces.

    President Jalal Talabani, a Kurd, highlighted a key looming fight _ possible amendments to the constitution _ as he voted in the northern city of Sulaimaniyah.

    "We hope that the people will vote to keep the constitution that was approved by the Iraqi people," he said.

    Election of the new parliament, which will serve a four-year term, marks the final step in the U.S. blueprint for democracy. That included the transfer of sovereignty last year, selection of an interim parliament Jan. 30, and ratification of the constitution in October. The parliament will name a government, including a new prime minister.

    For the Bush administration, the stakes are nearly as high as for the Iraqis. A successful election would represent a much-needed political victory amid growing doubts about the war among the American public.

    U.S. officials said a successful election alone will not end the insurgency. Also needed is a government capable of reconciling Iraq's disparate groups.

    Meanwhile, the U.S. military said a U.S. Marine was killed Wednesday by a roadside bomb near Ramadi, raising to 2,151 the number of service members who have died since the war began in 2003, according to an AP count.

    ___

    AP reporters Sameer N. Yacoub, Antonio Castaneda in Diyala province, Marian Fam, Hamza Hendawi and Sinan Salaheddin in Baghdad, Chris Tomlinson in Mosul, and Elena Becatoros in Fallujah contributed to this report.

    Copyright 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58755

    #2
    U.S. officials said a successful election alone will not end the insurgency.

    Now how do you suppose they would know that?
    Eat Us And Smile

    Cenk For America 2024!!

    Justice Democrats


    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • Warham
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Mar 2004
      • 14587

      #3
      Common sense?

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 58755

        #4
        If they had common sense, they would have never invaded Iraq.
        Eat Us And Smile

        Cenk For America 2024!!

        Justice Democrats


        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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        • Nickdfresh
          SUPER MODERATOR

          • Oct 2004
          • 49127

          #5
          Geez, I hope those fundamentalist, right wing religious extremists don't get elected this year....

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          • Angel
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Jan 2004
            • 7482

            #6
            Could someone please explain why Iraqi-American's had to travel to Canada to vote? Did GW not bother setting up poles for them down there or what?
            "Ya know what they say about angels... An angel is a supernatural being or spirit, usually humanoid in form, found in various religions and mythologies. Plus Roth fan boards..."- ZahZoo April 2013

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            • Warham
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Mar 2004
              • 14587

              #7
              I remember back in 2003 when certain liberals who won't be named were proclaiming that Iraq would never have free elections where voter turnout would be high. It was thought to be a fairy tale, a fantasy only neocons could conjure up in their wildest imaginations.

              Two years later...

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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49127

                #8
                Originally posted by Warham
                I remember back in 2003 when certain liberals who won't be named were proclaiming that Iraq would never have free elections where voter turnout would be high. It was thought to be a fairy tale, a fantasy only neocons could conjure up in their wildest imaginations.

                Two years later...
                And I bet you said the War would be over by now.

                Oh, what where you saying about glorious liberation? About being welcomed as liberators with flowers.

                Everybody KNEW voter turn out would be high, in fact IRAQI-SUN'NI Insurgents ARE GUARDING THE POLLS AND TELLING AL-QAIDA of IRAQ to suck it!

                But those SUNNIs are still shooting at us...

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                • Warham
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 14587

                  #9
                  Really? Everybody knew turnout would be high? What about certain media outlets claiming that the terrorist insurgents were going to keep people cowering inside their homes in fear of being killed trying to vote? That the people of Iraqi would be too skittish to leave their homes for the right to get their fingers purple.

                  I heard many analysts claim these sorts of things.

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                  • kentuckyklira
                    Veteran
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 1770

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Warham
                    I remember back in 2003 when certain liberals who won't be named were proclaiming that Iraq would never have free elections where voter turnout would be high. It was thought to be a fairy tale, a fantasy only neocons could conjure up in their wildest imaginations.

                    Two years later...
                    I bet the turnout was "high" as in "the USA will not tolerate torture"!

                    It´ll take years before I´ll believe anything official out of the USA again!
                    http://images.zeit.de/gesellschaft/z...ie-540x304.jpg

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                    • Nickdfresh
                      SUPER MODERATOR

                      • Oct 2004
                      • 49127

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Warham
                      Really? Everybody knew turnout would be high? What about certain media outlets claiming that the terrorist insurgents were going to keep people cowering inside their homes in fear of being killed trying to vote? That the people of Iraqi would be too skittish to leave their homes for the right to get their fingers purple.

                      I heard many analysts claim these sorts of things.
                      Really? Where did you read that? I kept hearing that the SUNNIs, even the ones' killing Americans and the SHIA factions, wanted in on this...

                      It's called "the bullet and the ballot box" strategy. That's not just a really gaRy Van HALEN III song BTW LOL. It was a strategy employed by the Irish Nationalist guerillas in Northern IRELAND...
                      Last edited by Nickdfresh; 12-15-2005, 06:38 PM.

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                      • Warham
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 14587

                        #12
                        Originally posted by kentuckyklira
                        I bet the turnout was "high" as in "the USA will not tolerate torture"!

                        It´ll take years before I´ll believe anything official out of the USA again!
                        Yeah, tell me how much money did Germany collect in the oil-for-food scandal again?

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                        • flatbroke
                          Groupie
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 55

                          #13
                          Election Results

                          I would think that no matter what your position was on the war, you'd wish to see these people choose their leadership, and get on with it. They have to want it bad enough.

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                          • kentuckyklira
                            Veteran
                            • Sep 2004
                            • 1770

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Warham
                            Yeah, tell me how much money did Germany collect in the oil-for-food scandal again?
                            I don´t deny that lots of German companies supported corruption. That doesn´t make official US administration information any more reliable!
                            http://images.zeit.de/gesellschaft/z...ie-540x304.jpg

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                            • Nickdfresh
                              SUPER MODERATOR

                              • Oct 2004
                              • 49127

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Warham
                              Yeah, tell me how much money did Germany collect in the oil-for-food scandal again?
                              I wonder how war-profiteers like HALLIBURTON and VP DICK CHENEY have done?

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