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  • Chong Li
    Head Fluffer
    • Jan 2004
    • 230

    Diver Down is the quintessential DLR album

    Diver Down was the blueprint for DLRs solo albums of the future. In many ways it is comparable to the "Diamond Dave" CD of today.

    Like much of Daves solo work, Diver Down consists of remakes. At least 5 pieces- Where hav alll the good times gone, Pretty Woman, Big Bad Bill (is Sweet William Now) , Dancing in the Streets and Happy Trails are remakes.

    The barbershop quartet sound that DLR obviously loves makes a double appearance with two of these songs. The first tribute to this sound was "Could this be Magic?" from WACF. When people complain about albums like Diamond Dave, I dont think they get. To Dave, "Diamond Dave" IS Van Halen. After all, he has been putting out that type of music for over twenty years now. Tunes like "Just a Gigolo" are a natural extension.

    Other than the instrumentals, and perhaps the Full Bug, I dont believe EVH contributed alot to this album. Even with songs like Intruder and Full Bug, this is NOT a guitar focused album. It could just as easily be the Atomic Punks or the DLR band backing Dave up here. This is really Daves album!

    Two other notes- the finest song, and most personal one from DLR in my opinion is the autobiographical "Little Guitars". For my money, its the best piece of singing Dave has ever done. I believe the "Senorita" choruses and lyrics are a rememberance of a gal Dave knew when he worked in a stable among Hispanics. Its an ode to a teenage love.

    I also thing Big Bad Bill is a joke to EVH. The lyrics talk of a man that has gotten married and given up his wild ways. That is certainly EVH after marrying Valerie. I dont think its meant as mean or spiteful, just a little joke between two friends at the time, Dave is telling Ed, "you're whipped pal!".

    1984 was Eddies album. I believe the last album where the entire group was in synergy was Women and Children First. That is a complete album showcasing the best of Dave AND Eddie. But thats an essay for another day.


    Chong
    "Can't you hear Jamies cryin? Shes runnin with the Devil oh nooooo!!! oh no!
  • Dickface McSlapnuts

    #2
    Hey Chong
    It doesn't impress anyone when you use words like quintessential
    It just makes you look like an ignorant dickhead

    DickFace

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    • Chong Li
      Head Fluffer
      • Jan 2004
      • 230

      #3
      I dont need to impress anyone.

      You do roids and I am still stronger than you!


      Chong
      "Can't you hear Jamies cryin? Shes runnin with the Devil oh nooooo!!! oh no!

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      • Sarge
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Feb 2003
        • 5422

        #4
        Shit this is a funny ass thread
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        • EbDawson
          Veteran
          • Apr 2004
          • 1674

          #5
          Re: Diver Down is the quintessential DLR album

          Originally posted by Chong Li
          Diver Down was the blueprint for DLRs solo albums of the future.

          DD - Damn fine album but they should've dropped Dancing in the Streets.
          "If anyone came here hoping to hear Sammy Hagar Van Halen, there's the fucking door, man!" Ralph Saenz, Atomic Punks

          "Carpe Mammarium"

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          • Chong Li
            Head Fluffer
            • Jan 2004
            • 230

            #6
            Do you agree with my analysis Sarge? That Diver Down is a Dave solo album in effect?
            "Can't you hear Jamies cryin? Shes runnin with the Devil oh nooooo!!! oh no!

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            • pardo

              #7
              I hear you about it havin a huge DLR influence - yeah, Dave was the one that pushed for the covers.

              But to say its not a guitar driven album is a little nuts. Hang Em High is a amazing from start to finish. And while you're takin bout guitar, how can you forget about Cathedral? Mix in Little Guitars and Full Bug and you have a killer guitar album. Secrets is amazing too. And its a small thing, but I've never heard pick slides like the ones in the Where Have All The Good Times Gone solo.

              Also gotta disagree about Women and Children First bein the last synergistic album. Fair Warning is a constant push / pull between Ed and Dave. Which is exactly what made Van Halen so good.

              Don't even get me started about 1984!

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              • rustoffa
                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                • Jan 2004
                • 8943

                #8
                Re: Diver Down is the quintessential DLR album

                Originally posted by Chong Li
                Diver Down was the blueprint for DLRs solo albums of the future. In many ways it is comparable to the "Diamond Dave" CD of today.

                Like much of Daves solo work, Diver Down consists of remakes. At least 5 pieces- Where hav alll the good times gone, Pretty Woman, Big Bad Bill (is Sweet William Now) , Dancing in the Streets and Happy Trails are remakes.

                The barbershop quartet sound that DLR obviously loves makes a double appearance with two of these songs. The first tribute to this sound was "Could this be Magic?" from WACF. When people complain about albums like Diamond Dave, I dont think they get. To Dave, "Diamond Dave" IS Van Halen. After all, he has been putting out that type of music for over twenty years now. Tunes like "Just a Gigolo" are a natural extension.

                Other than the instrumentals, and perhaps the Full Bug, I dont believe EVH contributed alot to this album. Even with songs like Intruder and Full Bug, this is NOT a guitar focused album. It could just as easily be the Atomic Punks or the DLR band backing Dave up here. This is really Daves album!

                Two other notes- the finest song, and most personal one from DLR in my opinion is the autobiographical "Little Guitars". For my money, its the best piece of singing Dave has ever done. I believe the "Senorita" choruses and lyrics are a rememberance of a gal Dave knew when he worked in a stable among Hispanics. Its an ode to a teenage love.

                I also thing Big Bad Bill is a joke to EVH. The lyrics talk of a man that has gotten married and given up his wild ways. That is certainly EVH after marrying Valerie. I dont think its meant as mean or spiteful, just a little joke between two friends at the time, Dave is telling Ed, "you're whipped pal!".

                1984 was Eddies album. I believe the last album where the entire group was in synergy was Women and Children First. That is a complete album showcasing the best of Dave AND Eddie. But thats an essay for another day.


                Chong
                yeah,...... ....shit.....after all the thesaurus work and shit.....fuck... ......you should be proud. Quintessintial synergy and all that...... .....arrgh. My guess would be you watched the early years DVD and had an idea or something.

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                • Chong Li
                  Head Fluffer
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 230

                  #9
                  No, I am just not a fucking moron like you. Which 7-11 do you work at anyway? Is it true what they say about the hot dogs there?
                  "Can't you hear Jamies cryin? Shes runnin with the Devil oh nooooo!!! oh no!

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                  • NathanRay
                    Head Fluffer
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 260

                    #10
                    Re: Re: Diver Down is the quintessential DLR album

                    Originally posted by EbDawson
                    DD - Damn fine album but they should've dropped Dancing in the Streets.
                    No way Dude your wrong that has some awesome guitar work on it and Dave owned it the solo killed and you could dance to it. Man the martian sound in the begging come on.


                    Could you see van halen doing dancin' in the streets??? Yes Ed and you rocked on it and you Know it.
                    "It's just not an option for me to go and watch some other band — who are only performing because they have some new record coming out — do our music," Roth said. "I have nothing against Velvet Revolver — I'm not familiar with their music — but that was my 3 minutes and 22 seconds up there."
                    Roth Keeps it REEEEAL

                    Originally posted by Antman
                    Fuck Alex Van Halen. That mongoloid Mr. Spock looking mother fucker.

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                    • thebuldawg
                      Roadie
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 111

                      #11
                      While I'll agree that VH rocked on Dancing in the Streets, I didn't really care for it and could have done with out it.

                      I also agree with pardo about Fair Warning. That is their best album in my opinion, and I think it's because there was collaboration on it.

                      I do think that, while it has great songs on it, 1984 was more Eddie's album, what with the more prominent keyboards on it.

                      Maybe this was a response to Dave's style that is all over Diver Down. Or maybe that's just the way the dice fell and those albums are what they all wanted.
                      "Whatever happens... happens."
                      -Spike Spiegel-

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                      • flappo
                        Banned
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 8013

                        #12
                        ..pretentious poseur's predeliction for procrastinating prose produces a perfunctory perpendicular puncture prob.

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                        • Wayne L.

                          #13
                          Diver Down is a great classic rock album released in 82 during the VH/DLR era which represents where this rock band was at the time during the height of their reign which I would compare to Beatles For Sale by the Beatles mostly since it had more covers than originals.

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                          • rustoffa
                            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 8943

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Chong Li
                            No, I am just not a fucking moron like you. Which 7-11 do you work at anyway? Is it true what they say about the hot dogs there?
                            Oh god, more weenie infatuation. you're a sub-freudian nightmare. Go take your medicine bitch.

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                            • ALinChainz
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 12080

                              #15
                              Re: Re: Diver Down is the quintessential DLR album

                              Originally posted by rustoffa
                              My guess would be you watched the early years DVD and had an idea or something.
                              You're right, they did say the same thing on the DVD.

                              Alex makes the comment about how it Dancing in the Streets should have never been on a VH record.

                              Any boot I've ever seen, they don't look like they are hating having to perform those songs.

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