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lucky wilbury
04-03-2004, 10:24 PM
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAIMVLFMSD.html

Three Suspected Terrorists Blow Themselves Up as Spanish Police Prepare to Raid Building, One Agent Killed

By Mar Roman Associated Press Writer
Published: Apr 3, 2004


MADRID, Spain (AP) - At least three suspects in the Madrid railway bombings blew themselves up Saturday as police prepared to storm their apartment. One special forces agent was killed in the explosion and 15 police officers were wounded.

The blast in Leganes, a southern suburb of Madrid, blew out part of the exterior walls on the first and second floors of the brick apartment building.

Police had approached the building at around 7 p.m. to make arrests as part of an escalating manhunt for those responsible for the March 11 bombings that killed 191 people and wounded more than 1,800.

The suspects spotted the police from a window and shot at them, chanting loudly in Arabic, the Interior Ministry said. No police officers were hurt by the gunfire.

Over the next two hours, police evacuated as many people as they could from the building and surrounding area and prepared for an assault on the apartment.

"The special police agents prepared to storm the building and when they started to execute the plan, the terrorists set off a powerful explosion, blowing themselves up," Interior Minister Angel Acebes said.

"There are three that could have blown themselves up, but the possibility of more is not ruled out," he said.

The news agency Europa Press said forensic experts were searching the building's swimming pool for remains of a possible fourth suspect, but the report could immediately be confirmed.

Police believe some of the suspects may have carried out the March 11 train bombings, Acebes said.

After the blast, floodlights lit up the wreckage in the exposed rooms of the building. Pieces of concrete littered the floors and wires dangled from the ceilings.

Leganes is a city of 175,000 people about 10 miles southwest of central Madrid.

The investigation into the March 11 attacks have focused on the Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group, which has links to al-Qaida.

Judge Juan del Olmo, the investigating magistrate, has issued international arrest warrants for five Moroccans and a Tunisian, identified as Sarhane Ben Abdelmajid Fakhet and described as the leader of the bombers.

Another 15 suspects are already in custody. Six have been charged with mass murder and nine with collaborating with or belonging to a terrorist organization. Eleven of the 15 charged are Moroccan.

Earlier Saturday, Acebes said a bomb found under the tracks of a high-speed train line on Friday was made of the same brand of explosive, Goma 2 Eco, that was used in the Madrid train attacks.

However, he said it was still too early to name any suspects. Goma 2, often used for demolition and in mining, is relatively easy to get in Spain.

"It's the same type of explosive and it's the same brand," Acebes said of the 26-pound bomb. The bomb was planted about 40 miles south of Madrid, and its discovery stopped six bullet trains using the Madrid-Seville line.

Train service resumed Saturday, but soldiers, police and Civil Guard officers could be seen patrolling the targeted rail lines. Sunday is the start of Holy Week, when many Spaniards take vacation or travel to their hometowns for the Easter holiday.

Because the bag containing the bomb was dry and the ground was wet, authorities believe it was placed at the scene Friday. A 450-foot-long cable was attached to the detonator.

The rail line where the bomb was found mainly serves Spain's AVE bullet trains, which have a top speed of 190 mph, although some slower trains also use it.

Another bomb was found half-buried beneath a French railroad track on March 24 about 100 miles southeast of Paris, triggering a massive inspection of France's rail network. Authorities have not said whether they suspect any connection to the bombs in Spain.

The Spanish government's main suspect in the March 11 attacks, the Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group, is related to a group suspected in last year's Casablanca bombings, which killed 45 people including 12 suicide bombers.

Spain has been a major U.S. ally in Iraq and has been warned previously by al-Qaida that it would be the target of terrorism for its support.

The Spanish newspaper El Mundo reported Saturday that the Spanish Embassy in Egypt received a letter from an Islamic militant group threatening new attacks if Spain did not withdraw its troops from Iraq and Afghanistan.

In the letter, the Brigade of Abu Hafs al-Masri, a group that also claimed responsibility for the March 11 attacks, threatened to strike against Spanish diplomatic missions in North Africa and the Mediterranean region unless Spanish troops are withdrawn in four weeks.

A Spanish diplomat in Cairo, speaking on condition of anonymity, confirmed that the embassy received a threatening letter signed by Abu Hafs after the commuter train attacks last month.

The United States believes the Abu Hafs group lacks credibility and has only tenuous ties to al-Qaida. In the past, the group has claimed responsibility for events to which they were not connected - such as last summer's blackouts in North America and Britain.

AP-ES-04-03-04 2003EST

alexpgrimes
04-03-2004, 10:32 PM
Looks like Spain can't walk away from it like they thought huh??

Viking
04-03-2004, 10:34 PM
A perfect example of why we need to stop worrying about these animals' 'rights', and pick them off like squirrels on a tree branch as soon as we I.D. them. Once these fuckers started the standoff, the assumption should have been made that they weren't coming out quietly. Use an infrared scope, and drop 'em through the walls.

alexpgrimes
04-03-2004, 10:41 PM
Let's just round them up like we did with the Japanese in WWII.

lucky wilbury
04-03-2004, 10:41 PM
the spainish think if they leave iraq it'll all be over but it seems like the spainish have had their heads in the sand for a long time since obl has been calling for an islamic gov in spain for years now similiar to the one from the 1400's.

alexpgrimes
04-03-2004, 10:44 PM
The catholic church could bring back the inquisition??? That's how they got rid of the jews.

quequekiller
04-03-2004, 10:54 PM
you are crazy people
the terrorism is the evil child of USA
you make bin ladem
you make powerfull a saddam
and people in de fbi and cia know about the 11-s

in 1973 in chile, usa help to the chilean fasism to kill a president and make a "dictadura"

if you think that the war is the way.......
you love van hagar!!!!suckers!!!!!!

chile say no to the war of irak
dont piss me of!!!!!
from chile whit love
quequekiller

alexpgrimes
04-03-2004, 11:05 PM
Why don't you get back on your donkey and go pick some coffee beans..

Viking
04-03-2004, 11:17 PM
You're the reason why I advocate mining the borders.....:elvis:

BigBadBrian
04-04-2004, 08:28 AM
Originally posted by alexpgrimes
Why don't you get back on your donkey and go pick some coffee beans..

:D :D :D

ELVIS
04-04-2004, 09:17 AM
Chile must suck...

Lincoln
04-04-2004, 12:22 PM
Three Suspected Terrorists Blow Themselves Up as Spanish Police Prepare to Raid Building, One Agent Killed
Does this prove that terrorists can not be reasoned with.

Sarge
04-04-2004, 12:28 PM
At least these guys had the nads to off themselves..

FORD
04-04-2004, 12:35 PM
It's funny how people can make racist xenophobic comments to our foreign visitor from Chile, but nobody argued against what he said.

Does this mean you guys are admitting that it's all true?

Because it is. Bin Laden. Saddam. The coup in Chile - which ironically enough, happenned on September 11 (1973)

All creations of the BCE.

BigBadBrian
04-04-2004, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by FORD
It's funny how people can make racist xenophobic comments to our foreign visitor from Chile, but nobody argued against what he said.

Does this mean you guys are admitting that it's all true?

Because it is. Bin Laden. Saddam. The coup in Chile - which ironically enough, happenned on September 11 (1973)

All creations of the BCE.

We'd dispute his points if they actually made sense. :gulp:

ELVIS
04-04-2004, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by FORD
It's funny how people can make racist xenophobic comments to our foreign visitor from Chile, but nobody argued against what he said.

Does this mean you guys are admitting that it's all true?

Because it is. Bin Laden. Saddam. The coup in Chile - which ironically enough, happenned on September 11 (1973)

All creations of the BCE.

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:elvis:

lucky wilbury
04-04-2004, 06:12 PM
someone should make a smily set just for ford. have one with a few "bce" agents chasing him. another where the smily sees something and whips out the tin foil and makes a bennie. maybe one with the smily at the computer with black helicopter circling over head.

quequekiller
04-04-2004, 06:35 PM
chile must suck.....maybe

but here, the people say no to the war
in america a lot of people say no to the war and i dont understand, you say yes to the war but if the soldiers die, the american people say that the war is incorrect and bush is a idiot, you can explain this?
i dont hate to the people, but the goberment of usa and a lot of countries are only bullshit, the international politic is terrorific, is only terrorism of the big countries, the world in the dimension of the politic is a desaster, you say god bless america, i think, god bless the world
the world say no to the war
and george bush say, yes, make a war

some very bad smell in the white house, some thinks that you dont know........

who suck more?

and sorry my bad english

BigBadBrian
04-04-2004, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by quequekiller
chile must suck.....maybe

but here, the people say no to the war
in america a lot of people say no to the war and i dont understand, you say yes to the war but if the soldiers die, the american people say that the war is incorrect and bush is a idiot, you can explain this?
i dont hate to the people, but the goberment of usa and a lot of countries are only bullshit, the international politic is terrorific, is only terrorism of the big countries, the world in the dimension of the politic is a desaster, you say god bless america, i think, god bless the world
the world say no to the war
and george bush say, yes, make a war

some very bad smell in the white house, some thinks that you dont know........

who suck more?

and sorry my bad english


:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Chong Li
04-04-2004, 08:03 PM
This thread is hillarious. Especially the Sarge weighing in!

pete
04-04-2004, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by quequekiller
you are crazy people
the terrorism is the evil child of USA
you make bin ladem
you make powerfull a saddam
and people in de fbi and cia know about the 11-s

in 1973 in chile, usa help to the chilean fasism to kill a president and make a "dictadura"

if you think that the war is the way.......
you love van hagar!!!!suckers!!!!!!

chile say no to the war of irak
dont piss me of!!!!!
from chile whit love
quequekiller

say hi to pinochet

alexpgrimes
04-04-2004, 08:24 PM
I don't recall anyone here saying that the war was bad??? When you wage war soldiers die. That is just how it works. The soldiers know that this might happen. They take that risk when they sign up.

Chong Li
04-04-2004, 08:32 PM
Unfortunately, not all the soldiers are that enthusiastic. I have heard some interviews where they believed they were earning money for school etc and never anticipated having to go to war.

Pathetic, but indicative of our culture today. Of course the Good Morning of America, Today Shows and the like are only too happy to trot these guys out for the cameras.

Truly pathetic.

Heres to Sarge and other brave men who volunteered to defend our country, whether they agree with the cause or not.

alexpgrimes
04-04-2004, 08:39 PM
Hear hear. I have a nephew that just came back safe and sound after one year there.

Chong Li
04-05-2004, 07:00 AM
Thats great news.

ELVIS
04-05-2004, 07:16 AM
Originally posted by Chong Li
Unfortunately, not all the soldiers are that enthusiastic. I have heard some interviews where they believed they were earning money for school etc and never anticipated having to go to war.




Whose fault is that ??

George Bush ??

John Ashcroft
04-05-2004, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by quequekiller
you are crazy people
the terrorism is the evil child of USA
you make bin ladem
you make powerfull a saddam
and people in de fbi and cia know about the 11-s

in 1973 in chile, usa help to the chilean fasism to kill a president and make a "dictadura"

if you think that the war is the way.......
you love van hagar!!!!suckers!!!!!!

chile say no to the war of irak
dont piss me of!!!!!
from chile whit love
quequekiller

We no make bin ladem, Allah did.

We no make powerful a saddam, oil for food did.

people in de fbi no knowa about the 11-s, put down the tabloid.

noone hear lova van hagar.

chile can suck america's right nut.

I piss you off if I wanna, bean picking chicken lover.

ELVIS
04-05-2004, 08:38 AM
LMAO!

:elvis:

John Ashcroft
04-05-2004, 08:49 AM
whoops, almost double posted...