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01-11-2006, 10:30 PM
By VIRGINIA HEFFERNAN

Published: January 12, 2006


David Lee Roth's new morning radio show has made one thing clear: Howard Stern is one ingenious pervert.


Howard Stern has taken his "dirty devil" image to satellite radio.


It's not that Diamond Dave has been knocking Howard, whom he replaced on some several stations on Jan. 3 as Mr. Stern moved to satellite radio. In fact, Mr. Roth has been smarmy and collegial about the King of Difficult to Acquire New Media. But Mr. Roth makes the point about Mr. Stern's pervy ways by contrast with his own, since Mr. Roth's own efforts to come across as a dirty devil - boasting of girls girls girls and chugging Jack Daniel's - seem pitiful compared to even the slightest heavy-breathing utterance of Mr. Stern's.

Meanwhile, on Sirius Satellite Radio, where "The Howard Stern Show" started with some tech difficulties on Monday, Mr. Stern has turned in respectably true-to-form programs that display his maestro skills with his nasty-geek persona. So far, he hasn't departed much from the tone and structure of his old Infinity radio show; though on Sirius he's now free to say what he wants, he has resolved to curse sparingly. He's still panting after lesbians, pushing the subject of genital grooming and laughing at people like Pat O'Brien, the television host who was said to have left obscene voice-mail messages for an acquaintance. Mr. Stern also barrels into impolitic topics that the rest of us are afraid to broach: Yesterday he asked a gay radio personality whether his lisp was an affectation or a speech impediment.

Mr. Stern, as his fans know, is born for radio: his on-air character is an unwashed basement figure, best kept out of sight - a haggard masturbator and morbid misanthrope who must hang out with deformed and desperate men because he can hardly perform with women. The fact that the pinup girls who come on his show now seem to want to have sex with him is, in his telling, evidence only of the women's ambition and depravity.

The Stern character simply hates his guests and co-hosts as he hates himself; he's a mean little pornography-addicted freak whose self-loathing reverses itself only in fits of equally grotesque narcissism, as when he flashes his listeners with a dirty raincoat by disclosing disgusting secrets about himself. But his relentlessly loser style makes him seem honest, and wins him a privileged relationship with the truth; fans believe what he says - about everything from politics to back pain to etiquette. He has hewn his character brilliantly.

By contrast, Mr. Roth is a jaunty frontman - really, Mr. Stern's opposite. In his heyday singing with Van Halen, he was a red-blooded dude who bounced around, yelped the high notes and handily pulled the bikini chicks. There was nothing depressing about Diamond Dave's sexuality: it was happy, voracious, superficial. He postured with the best of the hard-rock studs, strutting around with his moussey hair and Spandex pants. Had Mr. Roth's big-dog persona met Mr. Stern's gamma-male one, they would not have partied together.

But on radio, the tables are turned. A doctor's son who worked recently as an emergency medical technician, Mr. Roth is far too square for the morning slot. His stories about his drunken antics of the late 1970's - or, worse, about the 50's in crazy Greenwich Village, where his uncle Murray owned the Café Wha? - ring obsolete. And he won't reveal much about his life now, refusing to answer even routine questions from fans about his love life. As a result, his sanctimony on subjects from drugs to plastic surgery to celebrity misdeeds, is unearned. If he won't say anything about himself but bland boasts about his glory days, why should he get to tell us what to do?

Finally, Mr. Roth's tenor, which is can be poignant and otherworldly on Van Halen songs like "Jamie's Crying," is surprisingly grating and banal when he's speaking. Listeners to regular radio will miss Mr. Stern's low, unerring, New York-inflected voice - and the depth of weirdness it unfailingly conveys.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/12/arts/12roth.html

rustoffa
01-11-2006, 11:03 PM
Virginia Heffernan?

The name alone screams confusion.

Who's on first?

pete
01-11-2006, 11:38 PM
"As a result, his sanctimony on subjects from drugs to plastic surgery to celebrity misdeeds, is unearned. If he won't say anything about himself but bland boasts about his glory days, why should he get to tell us what to do?"


Sounds like Stern wrote the whole thing. The whole thing is basically a diatribe written by a Stern follower. Not even that. You see more and more nowadays, journalists who write from a compilation of other sources.

Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, but the fact of the matter is this article says nothing new in comparison to recent negative press (or Stern mutterances).

"If roth won't say anything about himself but bland boasts about his glory days, why should he get to tell us what to do?" - What a complete moron. Roth hasn't used his position to try to steer views or enduce a certain behaviour.

Someone shoot this idiot.

Someone must have already expressed this view, but here I go.

I love the show. I love the entertainment without the cheap bullshit. Midgest, strippers and crack whores. He's got views and they are not of the pseudo-intellectual variety. You know why we like him? Not because we're Roth fans. Because he's talking from a place we can all relate to. I would just like to see him open up a little more. In gerneral though, he's hitting it.

Many people think he believes his own music/media character. That he is superficial. He obviously has the means to allow the time to study and ponder issues all over the board. He puts it across with humor and forethought. whether you agree with him or not. You can't deny he is perfect for this job.

then again, what do I know?

Faquar
01-12-2006, 01:27 AM
:rolleyes: Surprised this Virginia-hack doesn't use a hyphenated name... Her rambling, incoherant piece backed by poor research really loses credibility w/all the grammer mistakes - where the hell's the editor (or even spell-check)??

She missed this one, larg, a lot of Stern inaccuracies, too.

As we all know, critics are generally failed journalists/performer saying: "I could do this -- better!.

F-her!
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BrownSound1
01-12-2006, 01:44 AM
Ah who gives a shit what anyone says, as long as you like it.

jero
01-12-2006, 05:30 AM
Originally posted by BrownSound1
Ah who gives a shit what anyone says, as long as you like it.

And the fuck we do!!

Hardrock69
01-12-2006, 10:19 AM
Who in the fuck is "uncle Murray"?????

Vagina Hefferman is a fucking half-wit trollop who attempts to make up for her intellectual inadequacies by petty name calling and psuedo-intellectual idiocy that is more befitting a 12-year-old girl who wishes she were a boy, and pretends to have a pee-pee.

This pathetically wretched wannabe female-to-male transsexual is SO ENVIOUS of both Dave and Howard that she comes across as a whiny little girl who is upset because she is not allowed to play football with the boys.

She can bitch and moan all she wants, but how many millions is she making per year as a hack writer for the New York Times?

What percentage of dykes bother to read her "column"? I use the term loosely.

Compared to Dave and Howard's fan base of MILLIONS, she probably has a few dozen women of the strap-on and pretend-to-be-a-man variety.

Her frustration is blatantly obvious and she ably demonstrates that she does not deserve to be on the Times staff.

That said, who in the fuck cares about her self-righteous little rant?

Stupid Kunt....
:rolleyes:

thome
01-12-2006, 11:03 AM
Originally posted by Hardrock69
Who in the fuck is "uncle Murray"?????

Vagina Hefferman is a fucking half-wit trollop who attempts to make up for her intellectual inadequacies by petty name calling and psuedo-intellectual idiocy that is more befitting a 12-year-old girl who wishes she were a boy, and pretends to have a pee-pee.

This pathetically wretched wannabe female-to-male transsexual is SO ENVIOUS of both Dave and Howard that she comes across as a whiny little girl who is upset because she is not allowed to play football with the boys.

She can bitch and moan all she wants, but how many millions is she making per year as a hack writer for the New York Times?

What percentage of dykes bother to read her "column"? I use the term loosely.

Compared to Dave and Howard's fan base of MILLIONS, she probably has a few dozen women of the strap-on and pretend-to-be-a-man variety.

Her frustration is blatantly obvious and she ably demonstrates that she does not deserve to be on the Times staff.

That said, who in the fuck cares about her self-righteous little rant?

Stupid Kunt....
:rolleyes:

Don't Sugar coat it tell us how you really feel!LOL

p.s. I agree:eek:

Nickdfresh
01-12-2006, 12:26 PM
I think if you guys actually read this article closely, you find that it is hardly kind for STERN. I used to listen, but gave up on Stern for the most part in favor of AM sports-talk and news, because the show became an on-going redundancy. From what I've heard of him on Satellite, it seems like more of the same typical radio-MCing, and surrounding himself with some good people, but also relying heavily on, virtually donated, bits by serial prank callers and aspiring comedians. We'll see how this plays out in the long run, but I hardly heard what I was honestly hoping for, a return to his hard edge and creativity of earlier days where he didn't just rely on naked chicks, but actually produced some very creative bits ("I Shot LUCY[Joe]," "Mayberry, KKK" anybody?)

Northern Girl
01-12-2006, 01:58 PM
I agree with Pete.

Except, I think he's been very open, especially talking about old girlfriends and stuff. I've learned a lot I didn't know before, and I thought I knew pretty much everything. :p What more do they want?

Today's show was a little boring to me; but all in all, I've been enjoying the hell out of it. Think about it. How much have we heard from Dave in the past 15 years? An interview here and there. To get to listen to him talk every day - shit, I'm in heaven!!


I think I'll dance. :hula: