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Greenbuds
04-05-2004, 05:58 PM
I came across these on usenet from some non-dave fans:

I'm not gonna take either side of the Sammy / Dave debate. I get a kick out of reading all of the debates in here. While reading the threads on how well the tickets for the new tour are selling, I decided to do my own search for all of the shows on Ticketmaster.
It's pretty simple for anyone to see that the tickets are not selling well at all. I gotta say I'm a bit surprised at exactly how poorly they are selling. If you do a search for 8 tickets to any of the shows listed you can easily get 8 tickets together in the lower bowl of most shows (with very few exceptions). Some of the shows you can still get 8 tickets together on the floor (Hershey Park). There is only 1 sold out show. That's Saturday in Vegas. There are 3 cities that have added 2nd shows, but these must have been pre-planned regardless of ticket sales, because there are tickets available at all of these shows just about anywhere you want to sit.
The first show in Greensboro is being sold at tickets.com. I typed in 8 tickets for that show and it came up with 8 together on the 1st level 2 sections out from the stage.
There's no doubt that this has to be considered a miserable failure. There's not even any debate. Go do the searches yourself.

And this one:

Yeah, no kidding. If you go to www.ticketmaster.com and you want 8
tickets on the floor at Hershey Park they'll put you in section D,
when you consider sections A,B,C (collectively front row and Heshey
Park) are mostly reserved for radio giveaways and friends of the band
this has to be hard for them to take in.

It's their fault, they are trying to cash in on this deal as if it
were a reunion with Roth and it isn't. I don't think you'll find
anyone (even hardcore Sammy fans) who would tell you the price of a
Hagar renion ticket should be as much as a Roth era reunion ticket,
but they are kiding themselfs into thinking this has the same
nostilgic value and it doesn't.

That's the first mistake, the other mistake is they are booking venues
a bit larger than their status demands, so yeah this isn't looking
good and by now the money people (people investing in this tour) know
it.


And this one:

Jack is right.. I can get 8 seats together in section 120 at Greensboro
Coliseum:

http://images.tickets.com/images/venuemaps/GC_end_stage.gif

$775.50 for 8 seats. :)



And these are the non-Dave fans!

MAX
04-05-2004, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by Greenbuds
There is only 1 sold out show. That's Saturday in Vegas.

It's still not sold out. I went to www.ticketsellers.com and there are still plenty of tickets for Saturday. Also, Mandalay Bay Arena is not that huge of a venue. The old band Yes also has two shows there about a week prior to Van Hagar's two shows.

Lou
04-05-2004, 06:24 PM
For the record it sounds to me like the guy is definitely a Roth fan. No Sambo fan would actually admit that it's not selling.

MAX
04-05-2004, 06:39 PM
I wasn't arguing with him. My buddy lives down in Vegas and he told me that they are not selling like crazy at all. He said it's selling just like any typical classic rock concert would sell. I just checked out of boredom and curiosity.

Big Troubles
04-05-2004, 06:59 PM
There are absolutely NO SELL OUTS for Van Halen yet. Thats not to say they wont sell out the arenas, but I would think that a Roth reunion would've sold a helluva lot faster. Plus they are not really driving any new songs to promote this yet. Once their new song hits the radio to promote this tour, maybe it will pick up.
Im a bit surprised at how poorly they've promoted this reunion/tour! Hell I havn't seen a thing on TV. No ET, nothing on Star nor Much Music here in Canada. Kinda strange isn't? I think someone isn't doing their job.

diamonds2
04-05-2004, 07:34 PM
When the tickets for vh went on sale in philly, there were only 50 people there.Every 15 minutes they kept on saying that there was no waiting.so that was an indication that ticket sales were not good.

crazystix
04-05-2004, 08:04 PM
Ticket sales UPDATE (http://www.livedaily.com/news/6335.html)

Warham
04-05-2004, 08:20 PM
I'm not going to see Halen this tour. I could care less, and I'm not encouraging anybody to see them. Edward has been using the fans as tools for the last seven years?? I gave VHIII a small chance, and went to see them on that tour, and it blew. After the next round in 2000 with Dave, I gave up. Eddie blames it on the lawyers...sure. The only thing that's going to get me to see Halen is if Dave's up there in all his spandex wearing, Jack Daniels spewing glory. I want to hear how he's going to fuck that kid's girlfriend in the front row. I want to see Eddie blaze away on the guitar, I want to see Al in his neckbrace pounding on the skins, and Mike yelping in all his glory...but only under those conditions. Dave or else.

This of course is somebody who owns all their albums, and has given every incarnation a chance. But after that 1996 fiasco, they lost some good will, then after the 1998 sham, they lost more good will. After 2000, it went poof. I will not be a tool in their shame. Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice, you know the picture. God damn, don't we learn?

I'm not buying BOV II either. Or a new Spammy album if it comes out. The only thing I might consider is a VH box set that's been remastered. That's it. It's not really Sammy that's an issue for me, but he's being used as a tool in this too. For shame. Get your tickets, and let Eddie laugh his ass off. He's pulled one over on us once, twice, and three is the charm? I'm not buying. I can't believe so many of those fans on VH Links and other sites are ready to blow their wads just to hear some mediocre new material from the band, and forget all that shit that happened. When I saw they were releasing a new tune, I thought 'big shit'. If it's anything like 'Humans Being', it'll suck a big fat one. Don't forget Sammy fans, Edward smoked your ass too when he kicked that Tequila salesman out the door eight years ago.

Eddie dealt the cards, and I'm folding.

squib
04-05-2004, 09:01 PM
I would have been there if Dave was back in, but this joke of a show? Good luck to the scalpers - better off folowing the American Idol tour.

thefive
04-05-2004, 09:23 PM
I will say it again. If the Original line up of Van Halen did a reunion tour it would be the BIGGEST ROCK N ROLL TOUR OF ALL TIME.

It is not just me saying it. The media and people in the music industry,

Its a NO BRAINER.

Everyone knows it.

Van Halen with Dave will beat any Rock group in the subject of a reunion tour.

I ask name 1 band or bands that you will think that would sell tickets more than the original van halen? (talking about bands that broke up)

There is something about the original van halen line up that people just go crazy for.

thefive

And by the way

Sammy just blows. He just blows.

Greenbuds
04-05-2004, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by Lou
For the record it sounds to me like the guy is definitely a Roth fan. No Sambo fan would actually admit that it's not selling.

Actually, the middle quote is from a guy who believes Sammy's tequila is the second biggest in the world and his lyrics are deep. Tell me that's not a Sambo fan.


And yes, a Roth reunion would be HUGE. Last year, VH1 did a special on the biggest fueds in entertainment. Sammy vs. Dave was #22 and Dave vs. Van Halen was the #1 fued of all time. Sammy vs. VH did not even rank.

Would people be interested is seeing those involved in the biggest fued ever reunite? I think so. Especially after this VH disaster. Sammy's career is over after this. He won't even have VH to run to anymore.

Lou
04-05-2004, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by diamonds2
When the tickets for vh went on sale in philly, there were only 50 people there.Every 15 minutes they kept on saying that there was no waiting.so that was an indication that ticket sales were not good.

Really, that's vastly different from the picture they painted on WMMR when I happened to tune in to them just about 11 o'clock ;)

Seriously, I was listening to them about 11 AM on Saturday morning flipping through the stations and they made it sound like there were these massive lines and people fighting for tickets. Glad to know the truth.

distortion9
04-05-2004, 10:27 PM
Good! Fuck em!

MAX
04-05-2004, 10:28 PM
Check out eBay, the ticket sales have bottomed out. The die-hard Hagar fans created a bit of a buzz but it's over. The stock has dropped significantly. It is true that the first Vegas show sold out. However, tickets are still widely available at a very reasonable price. You can order them through most casinos. The Manadalay Bay Arena holds 12,000. I'm told that 9,500 tickets were actually sold. Tons are readily available online or not selling on eBay.

Viking
04-05-2004, 10:29 PM
Sounds like the S.S. Van Hagar is having a few problems......

thefive
04-05-2004, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by Viking
Sounds like the S.S. Van Hagar is having a few problems......

friggin lol
damn that is funny.
thefive

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=52272

:donkey:

Roth-Halen
04-05-2004, 10:39 PM
Great! Lets all sabotage This F&^%$ Tour

Dave's PA Rental
04-05-2004, 10:45 PM
Worcester was "supposedly" one of the first venues to sell out....I just checked Ticketmaster.com and you can STILL get SIX...thats right SIX tickets TOGETHER for the June 19th show...sell out MY PIMPLEY ASS!!!!

Dave's PA Rental
04-05-2004, 10:48 PM
Just checked the June 20th show...on Ticketmaster you can get EIGHT tickets together for section 103. That's re-god-damn-diculous!

MAX
04-05-2004, 10:55 PM
I just checked with Mandalay Bay in Vegas and 1/4 of the seats were not even put up for sale. Prince has three shows, YES has two with the same type of setup as Van Hagar. An entire quarter of the arena (behind the stage) will be closed. So the numbers may be even smaller. I dunno? I just thought it sounded fishy.

seenbad
04-05-2004, 11:02 PM
Lol! You guys are funny. I about as NON biased as it comes. I'm not overly excited about hagar being in the band, but I am an edhead. I too would have preferred the roth. That being said, these fucking tickets just went on sale to the general public two days ago dudes! lol! Isn't that jumping the gun? Those 4 and 5 star packages have sold out in many cities and they're at 375 bucks a piece. The general public sales in a dozen or so cities have only been up for 48 hours. Don't you think it would be a little more sensible to talk about failures when the date of the concerts are ...oh Idunno, say a month or two away? lol.

Nice try at being unbiased though. ;)

Sorry, I'm known for shitting on parades. :)

Dave's PA Rental
04-05-2004, 11:11 PM
The thing is, I remember when a good rock show came to town, they sold out in MINUTES. People used to CAMP OUT the night before tickets went on sale to be assured they would get a ticket.

Granted, the Worcester show has only been on sale for two days, but I remember when VAN HAGAR shows like 5150 and Monsters Of Rock would sell out in two HOURS.

Dont make radio spots claiming that the first show is sold out...when I could still get SIX tickets together!

And your not "shitting on parades"...you really dont have that much effect.

MAX
04-05-2004, 11:11 PM
Up yours Noonan! :matrix: :fucku2: ;) :D

Dave's PA Rental
04-05-2004, 11:17 PM
Van Halen @ the Worcester Centrum Front Row. Item number: 2236217143

Current bid: US $11.37

Time left: 1 days 12 hours

This is for TWO tickets...

GET EM WHILE THEY LAST!!!!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16122&item=2236217143&rd=1

Hope this guy gets his money back at least!

BITEYOASS
04-05-2004, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by Roth-Halen
Great! Lets all sabotage This F&^%$ Tour

I'm in!!!! :D

tjvhou812
04-05-2004, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by Daves PA rental
Just checked the June 20th show...on Ticketmaster you can get EIGHT tickets together for section 103. That's re-god-damn-diculous!

just so you know 103 is behind the stage.....both shows on the 19th and 20th are both just about gone just nose bleeds left

seenbad
04-05-2004, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by Daves PA rental

And your not "shitting on parades"...you really dont have that much effect.

Shit dude. I haven't really tried to since the army came back up. If I had, you'd fuckin know it. ;)

Truth is, I just don't give that much of a shit anymore.

This however, is really a pretty lame claim. The fact that a big venue show isn't sold out in a dozen cities after two days is supposed to be a sign of failure?

Tough room. :)

I'm just a voice of reason. You know, like your daddy. :)

Peace out bro.

seenbad
04-05-2004, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by MAX
Up yours Noonan! :matrix: :fucku2: ;) :D

Blow me Schmayles!! :D

MAX
04-06-2004, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by seenbad
Blow me Schmayles!! :D

Pick up that blood!

Mr. Scholarship winna!!! LOL!!!

I've got it bad, got it bad, I'm hot 4 seenbad!!! LOL!

Props bro!!! :D


How bout a FRESCA? :p :p :p

thefive
04-06-2004, 02:13 AM
It is true that very few tickets were bought.

thefive

kennyboy
04-06-2004, 02:28 AM
HA!

Hey Eddie, see what happens when you take your fans for granted? \

Better be wearing a cup, indeed.

L.S.D.
04-06-2004, 10:14 AM
no, read the facts, not the bullshit being shoveled down your throats by rothtards.

arastar
04-06-2004, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by crazystix
Ticket sales UPDATE (http://www.livedaily.com/news/6335.html)

I read this article. They said Worcester was sold out! That's a laugh...there are still tickets available for the first show. How can they say it sold out when I can get as many seats as I want.

My guess is that they will sell out one of the two here in MASS. It has to happen. There's just no way that it wouldn't. But it's a smaller venue than the Fleet Center and smaller than the Tweeter Center...so it actually sounds better than it is.

Bill Lumbergh
04-06-2004, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by L.S.D.
no, read the facts, not the bullshit being shoveled down your throats by rothtards.

The point is that if this was a reunion with Dave there would be about 100 times the buzz of this sham. Ticket sales would absolutely be through the roof. Part of that is because it's been nearly 2 decades since the original lineup(check that...THE ONLY LINEUP) toured, but also that most would prefer to see Dave with the band. Actually I wouldnt be too surprised if this tour did well, since Ed's been away for so long. But if Spammy is in the band to stay, any future tours would be bombs.

Viking
04-08-2004, 12:41 AM
*BUMP*

Tony Soprano
04-08-2004, 02:56 AM
Originally posted by Bill Lumbergh
The point is that if this was a reunion with Dave there would be about 100 times the buzz of this sham. Ticket sales would absolutely be through the roof. Part of that is because it's been nearly 2 decades since the original lineup(check that...THE ONLY LINEUP) toured, but also that most would prefer to see Dave with the band. Actually I wouldnt be too surprised if this tour did well, since Ed's been away for so long. But if Spammy is in the band to stay, any future tours would be bombs.

I can't see Spam lasting more than this tour since he's hitting almost 60 and his voice sucks now, imagine in a few years?
Eddie's excuse to boot Hagar out again will be " I was right about Sam all along, he isn't a team player and his voice can't cut it anymore so we got Dave back"
Then we get a REAL reunion! Makes sense since NO Classic Van Halen will be played this time. They are saving it for after they kick Spam's ass out of the band, again.;)

Switch84
04-08-2004, 03:03 AM
Originally posted by squib
I would have been there if Dave was back in, but this joke of a show? Good luck to the scalpers - better off following the American Idol tour.


:lol: :bottle: Hot DAMN that's a good one! I'll bet the 'American idol' tour will outsell Van Hatin 1000 to 1!

thefive
04-08-2004, 03:10 AM
Originally posted by squib
I would have been there if Dave was back in, but this joke of a show? Good luck to the scalpers - better off folowing the American Idol tour.

Damn that was funny as hell shit. (better off following the American Idol tour.)
Damn that was one hell of a laugh for me. I guess for you too switch 84. friggin LOL
I am still laughing as I am writing this.

thefive

man that deserves a vote

Chaz Rock City
04-08-2004, 03:11 AM
Dates on Kiss's reunion tour would sell out in hours. Of course Kiss is a pretty good hype machine, where as the Van Hager tour doesn't seem to have much buzz.

For as much as I want this tour to fail, I think it will do good business. However A REAL VAN HALEN tour would kill everything out there.

MAX
04-08-2004, 03:32 AM
Shit, there are too many Van Hagar tour threads.

Check this one out cos it's funny! (http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=55423#post55423)