Why would you PAY to see Eddie Van Halen???

[TMR]

Why pay to see Eddie Van Halen?? :(

Van Hagar music doesn't require great guitar playing, so if you are going to see Ed for that, you will be wasting your time.

If you can't see the BIG Picture, Ed needs money....why not wait until a Full record is done before going on tour??? Because Ed needs cash now! Three new Van Hagar tunes....do you believe there will be some great guitar playing in those songs? No way!!

What has Eddie done for the VH fans???? Nothing, NADA, Zilch....if you listened to his recent interview, he said it doesn't matter what the fans want. The fans bought his home, alcohol, etc.....

In this age of Digital Media....There has to be a better DVD with Dave, then watching Ed play on stage with Spam.

Give me a good reason why you would pay all this money to see Eddie besides this might be the last time????

:o

[Dave's PA Rental]

Exactly why Im not going to see Van Hagar. If Eddie really wanted to make some cash-ola, all he and Alex have to do is release a multi-CD Dave-era live package along with a Classic VH DVD Box Set. They could charge crazy kiss-kash dollars for it...and they would get it.

BUT!!!

He would have to share the moola with you-know-who...

[Lou]

I'd see Ed solo or with an all-star musician group, disconnected from "Van Halen." But if he's going to be playing for "Van Halen," I ain't seeing him unless Dave is the singer.

[TMR]

Originally posted by Daves PA rental
Exactly why Im not going to see Van Hagar. If Eddie really wanted to make some cash-ola, all he and Alex have to do is release a multi-CD Dave-era live package along with a Classic VH DVD Box Set. They could charge crazy kiss-kash dollars for it...and they would get it.

BUT!!!

He would have to share the moola with you-know-who...

That's why Ed is a Fucker

[TMR]

Hey lou, it will never happen.....when asked in the interview if he would ever play with Vai or Satriani, Ed says he only knows how to play noise.....I thought ed figured out that it was noise back in the 70's ....LOL

[Gorilla]

Ed's just plain stoopid. I don't see any Hagar fans, but I see a lot of Dave's. If he really wanted to earn serious cash, he would smoke the pipe of peace with Roth and make some real shit reuniting Classic VH. VH came to Brazil in 83, I was just six years old - I'd really like to see 'em live, man. Dumb dutch brothers...

[tjvhou812]

you most not be a guitarist to say some dumb shit like that

[TMR]

Originally posted by tjvhou812
you most not be a guitarist to say some dumb shit like that

If you knew anything about the guitar, you would save your face and not defend a dying musician like ED!

[Dave IS VH]

I always thought VH should release, all of their unreleased bootlegs, bar and club days, along with a DVD with all of their music videos and rare concert footage in a box set.

I don't know how Eddie is doing money wise, I know the divorce with Val. took a good chunk out of it, but thought he would be alright from the past years of album sells and touring.

So far the tour has been successful selling tickets, but lets see what happens, when they hit the road for a couple of months.

[Bill Lumbergh]

Edward stopped trying back in 85'...........he took the easy way out with Spammy and stopped doing anything interesting musically. He knows if he brought Dave back, the focus would'nt be totally on him.

[RufusTFirefly]

Ed Van Halen is a spiteful dumbass. He just doesn't seem to 'get' Dave, and thinks he's trying to steal the limelight from him. When all he's trying to do is get the spotlight on Van Halen The Band.

If Ed can't see that, then he's a blind man. Dave's gotta be the biggest classic Van Halen fan there is...

[pardo]

Its fucking simple why Ed is going with Fat Sam instead of Dave.

Ed can't play guitar like he could when Dave was in the band any more. With Fat Sam, he can just go through the motions.

[L.S.D.]

pardo, you are a dumb mother fucker. Why is washed up dlr the be all end all of you morons?

[pardo]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
pardo, you are a dumb mother fucker. Why is washed up dlr the be all end all of you morons?

You are right - I am a dumb motherfucker. No arguement there!

But I take my dumb motherfucking finger and point it squarely at you. You're on a David Lee Roth website asking devout David Lee Roth fans why they think David Lee Roth is so awesome. Connect the dots dipshit!

I said Edward can't play guitar like he did when Dave was in the band. If you argue that, then you're completely delusional. Edward simply set the watermark way too high with Dave in the band. He didn't have 10% of the inspiration or fire with Sammie, so he'll take the easy road. But I will concede that Dave can't sing like he did back in the day.

I happen to like the music, playing, singing and attitude Van Halen had when Dave was in the band waaaaaaaaay more than this Sammie stuff.

[L.S.D.]

Youre telling me Eddie CANT play like he did in the dlr era? Choose your words better, if you say he DOESNT play like that anymore, than it could be argued. But why would ed not be able to anymore? Doesnt make sense.

[Big Troubles]

no what doesn't make sense is your little girlfriend general hina getting bitched up in the other thread by me. It baffles the mind why you pussies start these little arguments and run to the next thread or board to see what so and so said. Get a life. Just like sammy, you live through other peoples thoughts and emotions instead of being you.
Being a sociology major with a degree in psychiatry, I can tell you and a few of your friends need some serious council. Or maybe your brain was downloaded by aliens too? But this forum is for the entire Dave population to praise and some what critic his work from the past to present. But you use words a 4 year old would, and thats not critiquing.
That's is just makes you a waste of human fluid.

[L.S.D.]

well that made no sense....

[pardo]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
Youre telling me Eddie CANT play like he did in the dlr era? Choose your words better, if you say he DOESNT play like that anymore, than it could be argued. But why would ed not be able to anymore? Doesnt make sense.

Dude, you like to split hairs eh? Weather he can't play like that any more or decides not to play like that, I still like his playing better during the DLR years.

And we all know he can't play like that anymore. I couldn't even watch the RHRN solo he did. Compare that to the live boots of his solo in '76 and you'll see what I mean.

[SilvioDante]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
But why would ed not be able to anymore? Doesnt make sense.

Cause he is a 50 year old drunk.

Seriously, he won't need to be able to play guitar. Since there are no Dave era tunes this tour, looks like your hero will be behind the keyboards a whole lot!!!

[L.S.D.]

what? idiots? what?

[Bob_R]

So, if Dave came back or comes back he'll be able to play right? :p

Eddie Van Halen is the best fucking guitar player on the planet!

End of fucking story. :)

[Catfish]

Originally posted by tjvhou812
you most not be a guitarist to say some dumb shit like that

You most not be able to speak English, dickhead.

You go to this show, you support Sammy Hagar and a band TARNISHING the name Van Halen.

[Catfish]

Originally posted by pardo
Its fucking simple why Ed is going with Fat Sam instead of Dave.

Ed can't play guitar like he could when Dave was in the band any more. With Fat Sam, he can just go through the motions.

Right on. Ed lost his competitve nature when Dave left. He wanted it his way and he got lazy to the point of being uninspired to rock.

You bring in a mediocre singer, you become mediocre.

Go ahead, go and pay to see it.

[Catfish]

Originally posted by EVH FANATIC
So, if Dave came back or comes back he'll be able to play right? :p

Eddie Van Halen is the best fucking guitar player on the planet!

End of fucking story. :)

You're a lost soul, brother.

If Dave came back he'd PUSH Eddie to be great again. There's nobody around to do that anymore. In the comfort of his little world, with his little clique and his own little studio..."Edward" is a BORE.

[L.S.D.]

Originally posted by Catfish
You're a lost soul, brother.

If Dave came back he'd PUSH Eddie to be great again. There's nobody around to do that anymore. In the comfort of his little world, with his little clique and his own little studio..."Edward" is a BORE.

Once again, u morons believe that dlr is the be all end all of VH. So if dlr is singing, Eddie is creative, but if hes not singing, eddie is a dick, washed up, etc.

get over it already, youve had 20 years.

[Bob_R]

Originally posted by Catfish
You're a lost soul, brother.

Whatever



If Dave came back he'd PUSH Eddie to be great again. There's nobody around to do that anymore. In the comfort of his little world, with his little clique and his own little studio..."Edward" is a BORE.


I know what you're saying, Ed's sound changed after Roth. Whether intentional or not or alittle bit of both it did. I still enjoy listening to him play. To each their own.

[ZahZoo]

Originally posted by TMR
Why pay to see Eddie Van Halen?? :(

Give me a good reason why you would pay all this money to see Eddie besides this might be the last time????

:o

I'll give you a couple of good reasons (IMO)...

1. The fucker won't come over and jam in my studio...

2. Why do people pay to go see Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Jimmie Page, Carlos Santana, BB King, Ozzy, DiamondDavid Lee Roth, etc... For the plain and fucking simple reason that those are artists the individual enjoys seeing/hearing.

Being a purist has it's merits... but I would have missed decades of good music, well... and some pretty bad music too, from the list of artists above if I only insisted on seeing their original line-up...

I fail to see what the issue is... unless of course the lot of you that hold the position that you wouldn't waste your money to see Edward play with xxxxx singer, would without a moment's thought line up to boycott a tour if Dave returned because Edward was the guitarist ... then all this posturing would make sense... but I suspect that's not really the case, is it?

How many of you boycotted Dave's last 3 tours cause Bart or Brian/Toshi were the guitarists? You went to see Dave didn't you? The guitarist was a secondary consideration wasn't he? How is that any different w/ Sammy singing and a guitarist wanting to see Edward smoke a fretboard?

[GAR]

Led Zeppelin went pretty much into hibernation between 77 to 80, about 3 years. People forgot who they were almost when they came out with "In Thru the Outdoor" and to make up for it they put on alot of keyboard synth stuff.

- they didn't change the singer though. Credit for that.

[Lou]

Originally posted by ZahZoo
How many of you boycotted Dave's last 3 tours cause Bart or Brian/Toshi were the guitarists? You went to see Dave didn't you? The guitarist was a secondary consideration wasn't he? How is that any different w/ Sammy singing and a guitarist wanting to see Edward smoke a fretboard?

Because Dave didn't call it "Van Halen," he called it by his own name, "David Lee Roth." He didn't pretend it was something else unlike Eddie, who is calling it "Van Halen" like we're supposed to buy this as the reunion. And also they're playing Roth songs on the radio commercials to promote it because they know the Van Hagar songs suck.

[TMR]

Originally posted by ZahZoo
I'll give you a couple of good reasons (IMO)...

1. The fucker won't come over and jam in my studio...

2. Why do people pay to go see Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Jimmie Page, Carlos Santana, BB King, Ozzy, DiamondDavid Lee Roth, etc... For the plain and fucking simple reason that those are artists the individual enjoys seeing/hearing.

Being a purist has it's merits... but I would have missed decades of good music, well... and some pretty bad music too, from the list of artists above if I only insisted on seeing their original line-up...


Nice Post;)

1. He wouldn't go to anyone's home, because he's a dick!
2. Why do people see Eric Clapton, etc.....because they are inspiring ARTISTS,,,,,Eddie doesn't inspire anything but a bore, without DAVID LEE ROTH he doesn't have the drive to play great music. Dave pushed him too his limits and SPAM will suck his dick, so this is why SPAM is in the band and why Ed will be behind the keyboards for when DREAMS, WHEN IT"S LOVE, ETC. are performed.

NUMBER ONE REASON WHY NOT TO SEE EDDIE......HE SUCKS! ERUPTION WAS MADE in 1978..........ED hasn't done anything creative since 1982 on DIVER DOWN with LITTLE GUITARS.

Listen to LOU, he knows what VAN HALEN meant to people and the chemisty DLR and EVH had that made them great!

What the FUCK has SPAM done to make ED a better guitarist or at least creative???? GIVE TO LIVE??? :D

I've listened to all the CRAP Ed has put out since 1986, and it un-inspiring, complete boredom. Only one song might have a chance of good guitar playing in it...HUMANS BEINGS...WHY, because SPAM wasn't in the studio:D

LISTEN TO ME WISE MAGIC & CAN"T GET THIS STUFF NO MORE...DO YOU HEAR THE DIFFERENCE????????????:confused: If you don't, let me hook you up with a EAR SPECIALIST:eek:

IMO

[PHOENIX]

Originally posted by TMR
Nice Post;)



I've listened to all the CRAP Ed has put out since 1986, and it un-inspiring, complete boredom. Only one song might have a chance of good guitar playing in it...HUMANS BEINGS...WHY, because SPAM wasn't in the studio:D



IMO

WOW TMR LIKES SOMETHING ED DID AFTER 1984.:D

[TMR]

I'm a pretty open-minded person and I gave it all a chance, so yes that song rocks! SPAM was kicked out of the band during that time frame .....LOL

[PHOENIX]

Originally posted by TMR
I'm a pretty open-minded person and I gave it all a chance, so yes that song rocks! SPAM was kicked out of the band during that time frame .....LOL :D

[pete]

Originally posted by tjvhou812
you most not be a guitarist to say some dumb shit like that

If I wanted to see a great guitarist. I'd see Vai. And I do.

[pete]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
well that made no sense....

to a child it wouldn't

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
Youre telling me Eddie CANT play like he did in the dlr era? why would ed not be able to anymore? Doesnt make sense.

1. He gets drunk alot and passes out with lit cigarettes between his fingers.

2. He gets drunk alot and that affects his motor skills.

3. He gets drunk alot and trys to flip sizzling bacon slices with his bare hands when he's really fuckin' hungry.

4. He gets drunk alot and starts playing with mousetraps, inevitably thrashing his fingers repeatedly.

5. He gets drunk alot and slams the piano keyboard cover door on his fingers.

6. He gets drunk alot and trys to hang pictures on the wall, smashing his fingers to kingdom come with a framing hammer covered in red and white tape.

7. He gets drunk alot and puts his arms in the maytag 3000 washing machine while it's running thinking he left a pack of cigarettes in a pair of overalls he wore the other day.

..........etc,etc.

[TMR]

Originally posted by pete
If I wanted to see a great guitarist. I'd see Vai. And I do.

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Panamark]

I would pay to see Ed play.
Solo or with Van Halen.(not to be confused with Van Hagar)

I would never pay to see him with Hagar or Cherone.

[Switch84]

Originally posted by Daves PA rental
Exactly why Im not going to see Van Hagar. If Eddie really wanted to make some cash-ola, all he and Alex have to do is release a multi-CD Dave-era live package along with a Classic VH DVD Box Set. They could charge crazy kiss-kash dollars for it...and they would get it.

BUT!!!

He would have to share the moola with you-know-who...


:) Holy shit, I'd camp out in front of Sam Goody for that CD/DVD package! That would be totally awesome!

Maybe someday, I hope.

[pardo]

Originally posted by Catfish
If Dave came back he'd PUSH Eddie to be great again. There's nobody around to do that anymore. In the comfort of his little world, with his little clique and his own little studio..."Edward" is a BORE.

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[L.S.D.]

Originally posted by Lou
Because Dave didn't call it "Van Halen," he called it by his own name, "David Lee Roth." He didn't pretend it was something else unlike Eddie, who is calling it "Van Halen" like we're supposed to buy this as the reunion. And also they're playing Roth songs on the radio commercials to promote it because they know the Van Hagar songs suck.

He didnt pretend it was something else? By playing all van halen tunes and riding on that to sell his mesasly 500 a night tix. Van Halen is Eddie and alex's name, and the band is still 3/4 there. Why dont you live through van halen before you spout your stupidity jack off.

[ZahZoo]

Originally posted by TMR
Nice Post;)

1. He wouldn't go to anyone's home, because he's a dick!
2. Why do people see Eric Clapton, etc.....because they are inspiring ARTISTS,,,,,Eddie doesn't inspire anything but a bore, without DAVID LEE ROTH he doesn't have the drive to play great music. Dave pushed him too his limits and SPAM will suck his dick, so this is why SPAM is in the band and why Ed will be behind the keyboards for when DREAMS, WHEN IT"S LOVE, ETC. are performed.

NUMBER ONE REASON WHY NOT TO SEE EDDIE......HE SUCKS! ERUPTION WAS MADE in 1978..........ED hasn't done anything creative since 1982 on DIVER DOWN with LITTLE GUITARS.

Listen to LOU, he knows what VAN HALEN meant to people and the chemisty DLR and EVH had that made them great!

What the FUCK has SPAM done to make ED a better guitarist or at least creative???? GIVE TO LIVE??? :D

I've listened to all the CRAP Ed has put out since 1986, and it un-inspiring, complete boredom. Only one song might have a chance of good guitar playing in it...HUMANS BEINGS...WHY, because SPAM wasn't in the studio:D

LISTEN TO ME WISE MAGIC & CAN"T GET THIS STUFF NO MORE...DO YOU HEAR THE DIFFERENCE????????????:confused: If you don't, let me hook you up with a EAR SPECIALIST:eek:

IMO

I'm Laughing My Fucking Ass Off at your statement to "Listen to Lou"... Here we fucking go...

If I recall correctly Lou has never seen Edward, Alex, Michael and Dave together live... he was too young to have experieinced "The Mighty Van Halen"!!! Doesn't mean Lou's opinion and taste in music is invalid due to his age... it's just that I don't look to Lou as a voice of experience... on this matter.

Based on your statement you were probably still attached to your mommy's tit when Dave and the boys made history... Are you and Lou even musicians? Guitar players? Or just a blow-hard net-geek on an internet Bboard blowing smoke out your ignorant ass?

Look TMR... I started playing guitar in 1969 at the age of 11. I was 20 years old when I 1st saw Van Halen in Oakland, Ca at the Day on the Green in July 1978. At the time I was performing in most of the major clubs/venues in the San Francisco bay area and doing studio work in many of the major studios there too. I've probably had a guitar in my hands longer than you've been alive... So please don't try and tell me about how some flamboyant lead singer pushed the innovative guitarist to create his best work and a singer change turned this creative genius into crap. It doubtful you'd be able to distinguish a pentatonic minor scale from your dick in your hand let alone understand the composition structures of Ed's guitar playing.

I've listened to both MWM & CGTSNM numerous times... both are tunes that Ed wrote somewhere between the FUCK and Balance albums that ended up being workable for what Dave could lay lyrics to and even then it was a pretty hard struggle to get those tracks down. Dave wasn't within a 100 miles of Ed when the basis for those tracks were laid down... So tell me how does Ed become a better guitar player when multi-layered and heavily processed strained singing is laid down on an empty track on a left-over backing track that was written a couple of years previously with another singer in the band??

[pardo]

Zahzoo, who asked for your resume?

And you're wrong, the music for those 2 tunes were recorded while Dave was in the studio. Yeah, they had the music for CGTSNM when Sammie was around (not sure about MWM). But its a fact that they recorded them when Dave was around.

Some ingredients work well together. I think Daves voice and Eds guitar make a good mix. A very good mix! And I don't think its a coincedence that Ed sounds VERY inspired on those 2 tunes.

Perhaps you should go back and listen to Source of Infection. Or better yet - Sucker in a 3 Piece. Gimme a break!

[perticelli]

i will admit that noone would push ed to the limits that dave would.

If ed has lost his own fire in his playing, i dont hear it. i hear different playing sometimes, but not less passion.

I do agree,however, that dave would push him to the limit. I think it's a good,valid point.

[L.S.D.]

Originally posted by pardo
Zahzoo, who asked for your resume?

And you're wrong, the music for those 2 tunes were recorded while Dave was in the studio. Yeah, they had the music for CGTSNM when Sammie was around (not sure about MWM). But its a fact that they recorded them when Dave was around.

Some ingredients work well together. I think Daves voice and Eds guitar make a good mix. A very good mix! And I don't think its a coincedence that Ed sounds VERY inspired on those 2 tunes.

Perhaps you should go back and listen to Source of Infection. Or better yet - Sucker in a 3 Piece. Gimme a break!


both of those songs wre around way before dlr came back into the picture. Eddie played dlr MWM and dave said it sounded too dark....and if you think dlr sounds good on that track, you seriously need youre ears fixed. He is pushing his already strained voice to the point of ridicoulous. But the speaking thing worked cuz his voice was shot.

[JCOOK]

YOU ARE CORRECT SIR. THE ONLY REASON TO PAY TO SEE THIS CRAP
IS THAT MIGHT BE THE LAST TIME. I'VE GOT TWO WORD FOR EDWARD

THE BEATLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[L.S.D.]

Originally posted by JCOOK
YOU ARE CORRECT SIR. THE ONLY REASON TO PAY TO SEE THIS CRAP
IS THAT MIGHT BE THE LAST TIME. I'VE GOT TWO WORD FOR EDWARD

THE BEATLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what?

[ELVIS]

Hmmm...

My gut feeling is that when MWM and CGTSNM were recorded.. Edward strived for a heavier early Van Halen sound.. and achieved it quite nicely...

I don't think it matters when they were written or how.. but I do believe the chemistry was there in the sense that Ed knew Dave would be on the tracks and he reacted accordingly...

:elvis:

[Big Troubles]

Ed definatley tuned down for the songs, you can hear the difference in the guitar work. And thats on both tracks. So this tells me that the music was probably finished before Dave was involved, but Ed decided to tune down for Daves vocals. When you compare his guitar to previous Sam crap anyways. And I do remember a part in Dave's book, where he mention he wanted deeper meaning lyrics in one of those songs, but Ed was against it. Dave wanted to do something ala Everybody wants Some; with the "you cant get romantic in a subway line, conductor dont like it says your wasting your time". In other words, hard lyrics to figure out. Deeper meaning...Ed just wanted the lyrics simple and easy. Probably to get as much publicity, and garner radio spots. Edwards has been about money since the band commercialized themselves, overly, in 1985. That was apparently when Dave knew this was never gonna work out.
I wonder what happened in 2000 to make them change their minds about working together again?

[ELVIS]

I was referring to Edwards guitar tone as well.. much heavier than anything found with Van Hagar...

[Big Troubles]

I prefer the browner sound compared to his work with samuel. I found that when he tuned up, he was just compensating for hagar's lack of range. when you tune down to get to play the highs very high to match the screams. With sam he was all monotone, so by tuning up, your treble-ling your tone.

Did I just repeat myself like 3 times in a row? lol must be the green stuff. Thank god its Easter this weekend. Let out some steam. :D

[Dave's PA Rental]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
Youre telling me Eddie CANT play like he did in the dlr era? Choose your words better, if you say he DOESNT play like that anymore, than it could be argued. But why would ed not be able to anymore? Doesnt make sense.

Why doesnt Michael Jordan play basketball anymore? Why is this Arnold Palmer's last Masters? Why isnt Gretzky playing anymore? You know why, fella? Its because skills deminish as you get older. Stupid.

Now im not saying that Eddie would magically get those skills back if Dave re-joined the band, but there was a synergy when Dave sang with Michael Anthony and the Van Halens.

And because you are a stupid fuck, I will tell you what 'synergy' means:
"The interaction of two or more agents or forces so that their combined effect is greater than the sum of their individual parts"

I know, I know...you already knew what that word meant...

Go away you little yip-dog.

[ZahZoo]

Originally posted by pardo
Zahzoo, who asked for your resume?

And you're wrong, the music for those 2 tunes were recorded while Dave was in the studio. Yeah, they had the music for CGTSNM when Sammie was around (not sure about MWM). But its a fact that they recorded them when Dave was around.

Some ingredients work well together. I think Daves voice and Eds guitar make a good mix. A very good mix! And I don't think its a coincedence that Ed sounds VERY inspired on those 2 tunes.



No one asked for a resume... I felt like qualifying my position rather than just talking out my ass, as has been prevalent here lately.

I just don't hear the inspiration or a significant change in Ed's guitar work in the two tracks on BOV1 w/ Dave. Ed basically pulled out about a dozen working songs and nothing really worked for Dave. They went back to the two that eventually became MWM and CGTSNM. Ed complimented Dave on how much of a trooper he was and really had to work hard to make those songs work for him. The rhthym structures and the solos in both we're pretty average for Ed during the period those songs were produced. About the most different thing there was the Talk-Box effect thrown in.

You do make an undisputable point... Dave's voice and Ed's guitar sound do make a good mix. No doubt about that!!

[Dave's PA Rental]

I'll take ZahZoo's resume anyday!

Dont fucking badmouth a dude who was at Day On The Green in 1978!

THAT is old-school, kids.

[ZahZoo]

Originally posted by ELVIS
I was referring to Edwards guitar tone as well.. much heavier than anything found with Van Hagar...

I agree and if my ears don't decieve me I'd say Ed probably rolled a Marshall or two into the studio when the masters were laid down for those tracks. On thing the songs lack is the high gain signiture of the 5150 amps. Comparing the tonal aspects MWM & CGTSNM don't sound like they were recorded on the same equipment as Humans Being.

[ELVIS]

Hmmm...

I'm a guitarist too.. and I do hear a guitar sound that is unlike what we had come to expect from Van Hagar...

Sure the songs are average Ed, but I think he gave 110% on execution due to Dave...

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by ZahZoo
I agree and if my ears don't decieve me I'd say Ed probably rolled a Marshall or two into the studio when the masters were laid down for those tracks.


You speak with the voice and ears of reason...;)

[pete]

Originally posted by ZahZoo
No one asked for a resume... I felt like qualifying my position rather than just talking out my ass, as has been prevalent here lately.

I just don't hear the inspiration or a significant change in Ed's guitar work in the two tracks on BOV1 w/ Dave. Ed basically pulled out about a dozen working songs and nothing really worked for Dave. They went back to the two that eventually became MWM and CGTSNM. Ed complimented Dave on how much of a trooper he was and really had to work hard to make those songs work for him. The rhthym structures and the solos in both we're pretty average for Ed during the period those songs were produced. About the most different thing there was the Talk-Box effect thrown in.

You do make an undisputable point... Dave's voice and Ed's guitar sound do make a good mix. No doubt about that!!

well you've obvioulsly been around long enough to appreciate Van Hagar's Easy listening approach.

And the complex melodicitiy of Kenny G.

[TMR]

Originally posted by pete
well you've obvioulsly been around long enough to appreciate Van Hagar's Easy listening approach.

And the complex melodicitiy of Kenny G.

LOL......I wouldn't doubt it!