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  • 4moreyears
    Commando
    • Oct 2004
    • 1245

    Spying Does Work

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    WASHINGTON - Seeking to justify his tactics in the war on terrorism, President Bush on Thursday disclosed new details of an alleged al-Qaida plot to hijack a plane and fly it into the tallest highrise on the West Coast in 2002.

    The plot itself had been known for some time, but Bush said that it “was derailed in early 2002 when a Southeast Asian nation arrested a key al-Qaida operative.”

    A Homeland Security official later added even more details, telling reporters that the leader of a four-man cell trained for the hijacking was arrested in February 2002, and that the three others were later arrested as well.

    Frances Townsend, assistant to the president for homeland security, also emphasized that the president's speech was aimed at showing the importance of international cooperation, not as an attempt to support Bush's controversial eavesdropping program run by the National Security Agency.

    “It was not meant to be a speech about the NSA program,” she emphasized.

    Bush has been fighting criticism of his decision to authorize the National Security Agency to eavesdrop without court warrants inside the United States on international emails and phone calls placed to and from people with suspected ties to terrorism.

    West Coast tower
    In a speech at the National Guard Memorial Building, Bush said the cell planned to use shoe bombs to gain entry to the cockpit door and then fly the plane into a Los Angeles highrise. The president called it the “Liberty Tower” but the White House later corrected that to the Library Tower, since renamed the US Bank Tower.

    Townsend said that the plotters did not specifically cite the Library Tower but stated that they intended to bomb the tallest highrise on the West Coast as a continuation of the Sept. 11 attacks on the East Coast. Intelligence analysts concluded that meant the Library Tower, she added.

    Bush has referred to the 2002 plot before. In an address last October, he said the United States and its allies had foiled at least 10 serious plots by the al-Qaida terror network in the last four years, including plans for Sept. 11-like attacks on both U.S. coasts.

    The White House initially would not give details of the plots but later released a fact sheet with a brief, and vague, description of each.

    Cell members not named
    The president on Thursday said that Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks who was captured in 2003, had already begun planning the West Coast operation in October, just after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

    One of Mohammed’s key planners was Hambali, the alleged operations chief of the al-Qaida related terrorist group Jemaah Islamiyah. Instead of recruiting Arab hijackers, Hambali found Southeast Asian men who would be less likely to arouse suspicion and who were sent to meet with Osama bin Laden, Bush said.

    Bush said the plot was derailed when a Southeast Asian nation arrested a key al-Qaida operative. Bush did not name the country or the operative.

    Townsend would not release the names of the four men arrested or which countries arrested them.

    She did say that Mohammed did train the cell leader “in the shoe bomb technique” used by Richard Reid, the man convicted of trying to blow up a Paris-to-Miami flight with a shoe bomb in December 2001. He was sentenced to life imprisonment by a U.S. court in January 2003.

    Spy program not cited
    Bush has been on a campaign to defend his controversial eavesdropping program.

    But Townsend would not say whether the 2002 plot was thwarted as a result of the program, which eavesdrops on the international emails and phone calls of people inside the United States with suspected ties to terrorists.

    Bush said only that “subsequent debriefings and other intelligence operations” after the arrest of the unnamed operative led to information about the plot, and to the capture of other ringleaders and operatives involved in it. Hambali, for instance, was captured in Thailand in 2003 and handed over to the United States.

    “It took the combined efforts of several countries to break up this plot,” the president said. “By working together, we took dangerous terrorists off the streets. By working together, we stopped a catastrophic attack on our homeland.”

    Bush’s speech in October cited two other attacks inside the United States that were foiled, including one to use hijacked planes to attack the East Coast in mid-2003.

    The third was the case of Jose Padilla, a former Chicago gang member who converted to Islam and allegedly plotted with top al-Qaida commanders to detonate a radioactive “dirty bomb” in a U.S. city.

    Prosecutors were unable to come up with enough evidence to go to court, and Padilla now is being held without bail in civilian custody on charges that he was part of a secret network that supported Muslim terrorists. He was arrested in May 2002 and had been held as an enemy combatant without criminal charge at a Navy brig in South Carolina until last month.
  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58783

    #2
    Re: Spying Does Work

    [QUOTE]Originally posted by 4moreyears
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    Frances Townsend, assistant to the president for homeland security, also emphasized that the president's speech was aimed at showing the importance of international cooperation, not as an attempt to support Bush's controversial eavesdropping program run by the National Security Agency.

    “It was not meant to be a speech about the NSA program,” she emphasized.


    So much for your misleading headline (Which MSRNC didn't even use)

    The president called it the “Liberty Tower” but the White House later corrected that to the Library Tower,

    Geezus.......

    I wonder if he asks Pickles to go down to the LIBERTY and check out a copy of "My Pet Goat"??


    Bush said the plot was derailed when a Southeast Asian nation arrested a key al-Qaida operative. Bush did not name the country or the operative.

    Townsend would not release the names of the four men arrested or which countries arrested them.


    So four unkown men were arrested in an unknown country for making an unspecified threat against an unnamed building in an unnamed city?? And exactly WHAT part of this non-information would the Chimp have acquired from tapping the phone lines of American citizens?? :confused:

    Or for that matter, since there are exactly ZERO facts presented in this so called "revelation", how do we know any of it ever happenned at all?
    Eat Us And Smile

    Cenk For America 2024!!

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    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49204

      #3
      Re: Spying Does Work

      Originally posted by 4moreyears
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      “'It was not meant to be a speech about the NSA program,' she emphasized.

      Bush has been fighting criticism of his decision to authorize the National Security Agency to eavesdrop without court warrants inside the United States on international emails and phone calls placed to and from people with suspected ties to terrorism."
      So basically, they're admitting that NSA "spying" (DIDN'T) DO ANYTHING!!

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