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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10620

    Gore Laments U.S. 'Abuses' Against Arabs

    Gore Laments U.S. 'Abuses' Against Arabs
    Feb 12 9:08 PM US/Eastern


    By JIM KRANE
    Associated Press Writer


    JIDDAH, Saudi Arabia


    Former Vice President Al Gore told a mainly Saudi audience on Sunday that the U.S. government committed "terrible abuses" against Arabs after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, and that most Americans did not support such treatment.

    Gore said Arabs had been "indiscriminately rounded up" and held in "unforgivable" conditions. The former vice president said the Bush administration was playing into al-Qaida's hands by routinely blocking Saudi visa applications.



    "The thoughtless way in which visas are now handled, that is a mistake," Gore said during the Jiddah Economic Forum. "The worst thing we can possibly do is to cut off the channels of friendship and mutual understanding between Saudi Arabia and the United States."

    Gore told the largely Saudi audience, many of them educated at U.S. universities, that Arabs in the United States had been "indiscriminately rounded up, often on minor charges of overstaying a visa or not having a green card in proper order, and held in conditions that were just unforgivable."

    "Unfortunately there have been terrible abuses and it's wrong," Gore said. "I do want you to know that it does not represent the desires or wishes or feelings of the majority of the citizens of my country."

    On Iran, Gore complained of "endemic hyper-corruption" among Tehran's religious and political elite and asked Arabs to take a stand against Iran's nuclear program.

    Iran says its program is for peaceful purposes but the United States and other Western countries suspect Tehran is trying to develop nuclear weapons.

    "Is it only for the West to say this is dangerous?" Gore asked. "We should have more people in this region saying this is dangerous."

    Several audience members criticized the United States for what they described as "unconditional" U.S. support for Israel, saying U.S. diplomats helped Israel flout U.N. resolutions that they enforced when the measures targeted Arabs.

    Gore refused to be drawn into questions about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

    "We can't solve that long conflict in exchanges here," Gore said.

    Also at the forum, the vice chairman of Chevron Corp., Peter Robertson, said President Bush's desire to cut U.S. dependence on Mideast oil shows a "misunderstanding" of global energy supply and the critical role of Saudi Arabia.

    In his State of the Union address this month, Bush pledged to cut U.S. dependence on Middle East oil by 75 percent by 2025.

    "This notion of being energy independent is completely unreasonable," Robertson said at the economic forum, which opened Saturday.

    "I believe Middle Eastern oil can and must play a certain role in the system," Robertson said. "Saudi Arabia's massive resources will continue to promote international energy security and serve as a moderating force in balancing supply and demand."

    Cherie Blair, wife of British Prime Minister Tony Blair, made a plea at the forum for women's rights, telling Saudi leaders that the dearth of women in the work force was "undermining economic potential" of the kingdom.

    Irish President Mary McAleese urged Saudi Arabia to learn from Ireland's economic transformation, which hinged on opening the country to the outside world and ushering women into the workplace.

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  • Nitro Express
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Aug 2004
    • 32797

    #2
    I feel sorry for all the people who died on 9/11 and their families. I'll never forget how the majority of the Arab world celebrated when that happened. They were dancing in the streets, selling Osama Bin Ladden action figures and T-shirts. It was one big party while a very small handful said they were sorry.
    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49136

      #3
      I feel sorry for the American citizens dying in Iraq in as War knowingly based on faulty intelligence...

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      • Angel
        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
        • Jan 2004
        • 7481

        #4
        Originally posted by Nitro Express
        I'll never forget how the majority of the Arab world celebrated when that happened. They were dancing in the streets, selling Osama Bin Ladden action figures and T-shirts. It was one big party while a very small handful said they were sorry.
        Actually, the dancing in the streets footage that was seen on tv has been proven to be previous footage of celebrations in palestine.
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        • Warham
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Mar 2004
          • 14589

          #5
          Originally posted by Nickdfresh
          I feel sorry for the American citizens dying in Iraq in as War knowingly based on faulty intelligence...
          This thread isn't about the Iraq War. It's about Al Gore being an idiot.

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          • Nickdfresh
            SUPER MODERATOR

            • Oct 2004
            • 49136

            #6
            Originally posted by Warham
            This thread isn't about the Iraq War. It's about Al Gore being an idiot.
            Well then, why didn't you vote him? You apparently love elected idiots...

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            • Warham
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Mar 2004
              • 14589

              #7
              Originally posted by Nickdfresh
              Well then, why didn't you vote him? You apparently love elected idiots...
              I didn't vote for the father of the internet, but you did.

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              • 4moreyears
                Commando
                • Oct 2004
                • 1245

                #8
                Originally posted by Warham
                This thread isn't about the Iraq War. It's about Al Gore being an idiot.
                There is a double standard in this forum. When you are a card carrying liberal you can say what you want. When you are a republican you need to stick to the topic.

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                • FORD
                  ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 58759

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                  Well then, why didn't you vote him? You apparently love elected idiots...
                  Actually, that's not true.....

                  He loves Supreme Court Appointed idiots.
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                  • thome
                    ROTH ARMY ELITE
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 6675

                    #10
                    And to think, Al would speak out against his own country like this,
                    and he wanted to be my president ..two faced bastard!

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                    • Nickdfresh
                      SUPER MODERATOR

                      • Oct 2004
                      • 49136

                      #11
                      Originally posted by thome
                      And to think, Al would speak out against his own country like this,
                      and he wanted to be my president ..two faced bastard!
                      Well, it's pretty funny that BuSH has the illiterate trailer trash vote...

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                      • Warham
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 14589

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                        Well, it's pretty funny that BuSH has the illiterate trailer trash vote...
                        And John Kerry has the pseudo-intellectual pessimistic asshole vote, as demonstrated right here on this very forum.

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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49136

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Warham
                          And John Kerry has the pseudo-intellectual pessimistic asshole vote, as demonstrated right here on this very forum.
                          Wow. Sounds like somebody is resorting to name calling. I though you were above that...

                          I'm deeply saddened and shocked...

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                          • 4moreyears
                            Commando
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 1245

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                            Wow. Sounds like somebody is resorting to name calling. I though you were above that...

                            I'm deeply saddened and shocked...
                            I am not above it, you are a liberal dick.

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32797

                              #15
                              I did a study abroad in Israel while in college. Some of the worlds best scuba diving is in the Red Sea. Some of the best Red Sea resorts are actually in Saudi Arabia believe it or not. It's strict Islamic rules where women and men are sepparated and everything but they are posh resorts that are way better than anything the Egyptians have.

                              All I wanted to do was scuba dive and yes, the Saudis do that. Everytime I applied for a visa I was turned down flat. I even had a Saudi friend try and pull some strings for me but that was to no avail. But the United States at that time was letting in thousands of Saudis. Go figure.
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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