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BigBadBrian
02-17-2006, 06:30 PM
School Bus Drivers Join the Terror Watch

By BEN FELLER
AP Education Writer

NORFOLK, Va. (AP) -- The war on terror has a new front line - the school bus line.

Financed by the Homeland Security Department, school bus drivers are being trained to watch for potential terrorists, people who may be casing their routes or plotting to blow up their buses.

Designers of the School Bus Watch program want to turn 600,000 bus drivers into an army of observers, like a counterterrorism watch on wheels. Already mindful of motorists with road rage and kids with weapons, bus drivers are now being warned of far more grisly scenarios.

Like this one: terrorists monitor a punctual driver for weeks, then hijack a bus and load the friendly yellow vehicle with enough explosives to take down a building.

An alert school bus driver could foil that plan, security expert Jeffrey Beatty recently told a class of 250 of drivers in Norfolk, Va. After all, bus drivers cover millions of miles of roads. They know the towns, the kids, the parents.

"The terrorist is not going to be able to do some of their casing and rehearsal activity without being detected by one of you," said Beatty, an anti-terrorism veteran of the CIA, FBI and the Army's Delta Force. The more people watching, he told the drivers, the safer the community will be.

With bus drivers becoming informal intelligence gatherers, the reach of homeland security is growing - not exactly what parents think of when their kids head to the bus stop.

The program demands strong oversight, said John Rollins, a former senior Homeland Security intelligence official now with Congressional Research Service.

Otherwise, he said, some bus drivers could think of themselves as undercover agents.

"Today it's bus drivers, tomorrow it could be postal officials, and the next day, it could be, 'Why don't we have this program in place for the people who deliver the newspaper to the door?'" Rollins said. "We could quickly get into a society where we're all spying on each other. It may be well intentioned, but there is a concern of going a bit too far."

Most school bus drivers do the job part-time, often to supplement other income. Many are retirees, mothers with young children, people between jobs, or school employees who also work as mechanics, janitors or classroom aides, according to government and industry officials.

The drivers are not being trained to be police. Their role is to report suspicious behavior to dispatchers, who alert the police and funnel tips to a national analysis center.

The new effort is part of Highway Watch, an industry safety program run by the American Trucking Associations and financed since 2003 with $50 million in homeland security money.

Leaders of Highway Watch worked with the school bus industry to tailor training for drivers, who are trusted each day to ferry 25 million children to and from school.

So far, tens of thousands of bus operators have been trained in places large and small, from Dallas and New York City to Kure Beach, N.C., Hopewell, Va., and Mt. Pleasant, Texas.

"As a bus driver, going down the same streets and going into the same neighborhoods every day, you know when there's a car that shouldn't be there," said Bob Pearson, who drives a school bus in Fairfax County, Va. "You have to realize that a school bus goes everywhere."

When he worked as a homicide detective, Pearson gathered tips from everyone on the roads - truck drivers, trash men, mail workers. So to him, recruiting bus drivers is logical.

Down in Norfolk, Shelita Hill, a driver for 23 years, acknowledged that she never thought of her school bus as a target of terrorism until she heard Beatty speak. Neither had many others in the class.

"He woke us up," Hill said.

Schools are the kind of target that terrorists want, Beatty said: a place where an attack could have huge symbolic impact and lead to mass casualties and spectacular images.

To underscore the point, he reminded drivers of Beslan, Russia, where terrorists stormed a school in 2004, killing 331 adults and children in a storm of gunfire and explosions.

In Virginia, bus drivers were taught how to identify and evaluate unusual activity. What drew your attention to this person in the first place? Is someone unfamiliar taking photos or drawing sketches of the area? Is the person asking a lot of questions about the bus route?

Then the drivers got tips on how to report what they saw: Jot down facts immediately. Back away from the situation to get a broader view. Are there accomplices?

Next came the security sweep. Drivers were shown how to inspect their buses, not just for routine maintenance flaws, but also for tampering by terrorists. A bus has lots of hiding places for a bomb - the glove box, luggage bins, the engine compartment, the first-aid kit.

Victor Manuele, a longtime school bus driver in New York and now in Norfolk, said he has been doing pre-trip safety inspections for years. Just not for explosives.

"I don't think I ever thought about, 'Oh, well, here, let me check my bus for a bomb,'" Manuele said after the training. "So, you know, all of that stuff is very helpful."

Kenneth Trump, a school safety consultant who tracks security trends, said being prepared is not being alarmist. "Denying and downplaying schools and school buses as potential terror targets here in the U.S.," Trump said, "would be foolish."

When drivers finish their training, they get confidential School Bus Watch ID numbers. They are reminded never to profile people as suspicious based on culture or ethnicity.

"They know what looks right and what looks wrong," Beatty said. "All we can do is ask them to use their judgment."
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BigBadBrian
02-17-2006, 06:31 PM
And you guys say the Bush Administration isn't doing enough to protect the American public. :rolleyes:

FORD
02-17-2006, 11:23 PM
http://members.firstinter.net/markster/BRITISH%20STEEL/otto.gif
Dude, I'm like Homeland Security now! Has anybody seen my bong?

Unchainme
02-17-2006, 11:36 PM
Originally posted by FORD
http://members.firstinter.net/markster/BRITISH%20STEEL/otto.gif
Dude, I'm like Homeland Security now! Has anybody seen my bong?

I always thought otto was based on Slash from GN'R.

(Sorry That was off topic.)

FORD
02-18-2006, 12:07 AM
Groening based most of the Simpsons characters on real people from his own life, so Otto was probably a real bus driver.

I knew a couple of bus drivers who were pretty close to that.

Also, I'm pretty sure that Otto was in some of the early Simpsons shorts on the Tracey Ullman show, and that would have been before most people knew who Slash was.

Hardrock69
02-18-2006, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
And you guys say the Bush Administration isn't doing enough to protect the American public. :rolleyes:

No.

We say he is doing too MUCH to 'protect' the American public. The title of the above article should be:
School Bus Drivers: The New Gestapo

Chimpy is going too fucking far.

Oooooh...some A-rabs are gonna come over here to the U.S. for the sole purpose of blowing up a skule buss somewhere in bumfuck Idaho.

Give me a fucking break.


They need to blow this bus up:

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=748554

Hardrock69
02-18-2006, 12:44 AM
Or at least get BBB or Warham drunk on power and let them drive it into the Abyss Of Eternal Neo-Con Stoopidity:

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=754324

BigBadBrian
02-18-2006, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Hardrock69
No.

We say he is doing too MUCH to 'protect' the American public. The title of the above article should be:
School Bus Drivers: The New Gestapo

Chimpy is going too fucking far.

Oooooh...some A-rabs are gonna come over here to the U.S. for the sole purpose of blowing up a skule buss somewhere in bumfuck Idaho.

Give me a fucking break.




First of all, my first statement of the thread was one of sarcasm.

I see you were too stupid to notice that. :cool:

Anyhow, you liberals can't get your story straight. Some of you say he isn't doing enough to protect us: he isn't protecting the borders, the ports, etc. The rest of you are crying bloody murder of how he is protecting us too much with the Patriot Act and the wire-tapping business.

You have no message. The American public doesn't know what to believe from you. You ARE wishy-washy. Go get algore. Get him to take a poll for you. :D

Nickdfresh
02-18-2006, 01:54 PM
School bus drivers should be on the look out for pedophiles and bad drivers, because kids are far more likely to be killed by those than by terrorists...

BigBadBrian
02-18-2006, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
School bus drivers should be on the look out for pedophiles and bad drivers, because kids are far more likely to be killed by those than by terrorists...

I agree.

That was the point of the sarcasm with my first post.

:gulp:

Hardrock69
02-20-2006, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by BigBadBrian
First of all, my first statement of the thread was one of sarcasm.

I see you were too stupid to notice that. :cool:



Your first statement was not by you, fucking dumbass.

Your first statement was a fucking news article on school bus drivers.

I am not required to have a message, fucktard, as I am not running for office.

Go fuck yourself.

BigBadBrian
02-20-2006, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by Hardrock69
Your first statement was not by you, fucking dumbass.

Your first statement was a fucking news article on school bus drivers.

I am not required to have a message, fucktard, as I am not running for office.

Go fuck yourself.

Direct hit.

:gulp: