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  • LoungeMachine
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    • Jul 2004
    • 32555

    South Dakota Closer to Outlawing Abortion

    S.D. Abortion Bill Takes Aim at 'Roe'
    Senate Ban Does Not Except Rape, Incest

    By Evelyn Nieves
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Thursday, February 23, 2006; Page A01

    South Dakota lawmakers yesterday approved the nation's most far-reaching ban on abortion, setting the stage for new legal challenges that its supporters say they hope lead to an overturning of Roe v. Wade .

    The measure, which passed the state Senate 23 to 12, makes it a felony for doctors to perform any abortion, except to save the life of a pregnant woman. The proposal still must be signed by Gov. Mike Rounds (R), who opposes abortion.



    Rep. Roger Hunt, a sponsor of the bill, said momentum is building for a change in national policy on abortion. (By Doug Dreyer -- Associated Press)

    The bill was designed to challenge the Supreme Court's ruling in Roe , which in 1973 recognized a right of women to terminate pregnancies. Its sponsors want to force a reexamination of the ruling by the court, which now includes two justices appointed by President Bush.

    "The momentum for a change in the national policy on abortion is going to come in the not-too-distant future," said Rep. Roger W. Hunt, a Republican who sponsored the bill. To his delight, abortion opponents succeeded in defeating all amendments designed to mitigate the ban, including exceptions in the case of rape or incest or the health of the woman. Hunt said that such "special circumstances" would have diluted the bill and its impact on the national scene.

    Kate Looby, director of Planned Parenthood of South Dakota, which plans to immediately challenge the ban, said that while she was not surprised, she was still a "little shocked" by the vote. "Clearly, this is a devastating day for the women of South Dakota," she said. "We fully expected this, yet it's still distressing to know that this legislative body cares so little about women, about families, about women who are victims of rape or incest."

    National abortion rights organizations said the South Dakota vote has set the stage for a new fight to keep abortion legal at the federal level and in the states. "When you see them have a ban that does not include exceptions for rape or incest or the health of the mother, you understand that elections do matter," said Nancy Keenan, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America. "We will be very active in '06 and in '08 in electing candidates that represent the views of most Americans."

    The antiabortion movement has focused primarily in recent years on a state-by-state effort to enact restrictions on access to abortion, including pushes for parental-notification laws and waiting periods before the procedure may be performed. A 1992 Supreme Court decision again affirmed a right to abortion in a Pennsylvania case, known as Planned Parenthood v. Casey , that said states cannot put an "undue burden" on women getting access to abortions.

    Not all antiabortion groups agreed with the South Dakota supporters' effort to directly challenge Roe .

    "If you're just reading the law as it stands now, South Dakota's law doesn't really stand any chance under Roe or Casey . I have to agree with those who think it's remote," said Chuck Donovan, executive vice president of the Family Research Council and a former lobbyist for the National Right to Life Committee.

    He said there is not a consensus for a national approach to finding a way to overturn Roe . "There are lots of voices out there and nobody has a single strategy, so South Dakota has stepped in to fill that void," Donovan said.

    Still, some abortion opponents are more confident than they have ever been that Roe could be overturned with two new conservative members of the high court, Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. and Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. Roberts has not publicly expressed his view on abortion rights. Alito opposed Roe as a young Reagan administration lawyer and had a mixed record on abortion rights while a federal appeals court judge.

    On Tuesday, the Supreme Court agreed to decide whether a federal law banning a procedure that opponents call "partial birth" abortion is constitutional. The law passed Congress in 2003 but has been struck down by three federal appeals courts and has yet to take effect.

    South Dakota is the first but not the only state to consider new abortion restrictions this year. Ohio, Indiana, Georgia, Tennessee and Kentucky have introduced similar measures.

    Rounds has indicated that he would sign the South Dakota measure if it does not jeopardize existing abortion restrictions while the legislation is challenged. In 2004, he vetoed a similar bill because of concerns that abortion restrictions would be eliminated during legal wrangling. Hunt said his bill has addressed the governor's concerns.

    Hunt has also said that when the inevitable challenge to the ban is filed in court, the ban's supporters will be prepared for a costly court fight with $1 million already pledged by "an anonymous donor."

    Even without this latest ban, South Dakota was already one of the most difficult states in the country in which to get an abortion, those on both sides of the issue say. It is one of three states with only one abortion provider (Mississippi and North Dakota are the others), and its one clinic, the Planned Parenthood clinic in Sioux Falls, offers the procedure only once a week. Four doctors who fly in from Minnesota on a rotating basis perform the abortions, since no doctor in South Dakota will do so because of the heavy stigma attached.

    About 800 abortions are performed each year in South Dakota, which has a population of 770,000 spread out over 77,000 square miles. Last year, South Dakota passed five laws to restrict abortions, including one that would compel doctors to tell women that they would be ending the life of a "whole, separate, unique human being." That law has been blocked by a lawsuit filed by Planned Parenthood.
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  • BITEYOASS
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    • Jan 2004
    • 6529

    #2
    Well seeing that ole SD is a backwards rural red state, I'm not suprised that they want to prevent abortions for women who are victims of incest.

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    • jhale667
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      • Aug 2004
      • 20929

      #3
      Originally posted by BITEYOASS
      Well seeing that ole SD is a backwards rural red state, I'm not suprised that they want to prevent abortions for women who are victims of incest.
      ...Said the guy from Alabama! Sorry---I agree with you, but couldn't help noticing the irony...

      It IS seriously backward thinking...and I also didn't notice any mention of increasing SD Planned Parenthood's budget towards education on contraception....dumbasses.
      Originally posted by conmee
      If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

      That is all.

      Icon.
      Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
      I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


      Originally posted by Isaac R.
      Then it's really true??:eek:

      The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

      OMFG...who in their right mind...???
      Originally posted by eddie78
      I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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      • Nitro Express
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 32794

        #4
        Nobody is more religiouse right wing than my mom. She used to work as a nurse when abortions were illegal and saw the horrors of backroom illegal abortions first hand.

        My mom will be the first to tell you abortion is murder but she will also fiercely defend a woman's rights to have a legal abortion if she wishes.

        Abortion can carry some heavy guilt to a woman that has had one. It's a seriouse matter. Children can be put up for adoption and theres plenty of good parents waiting to adopt.

        What we need is some basic sex education that drives it home "You Can Get Pregnant!" "You Can Get the Girl Pregnant!" and then go into all the emotional and responsibility realities. I think abortion as birth control should be highly preached against and the realities of safe sex and contriception preached. Sex is great but with it comes responsibility. Unresponsible sex errodes the foundation of any society and the end result is poverty in the long run.

        People are going to have sex. Some in the religiouse right want absinence. Fine. But the reality is people are going to boink nomatter what religion they were raised under and they need to know the facts of sex.

        Any woman in need of an abortion is in a horrible state. It's a tough choice with long-term emotional trauma. But the reality is sometimes abortion is needed and in the end, the mother needs the freedom to make that seriouse decision herself and live whith her decision.

        I think we can have legal abortion without cheapening human life. What cheapens human life is trivalizing abortion.
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • Nickdfresh
          SUPER MODERATOR

          • Oct 2004
          • 49125

          #5
          Well, now the the asstards in South Dakota can rape their daughters, and not have to worry about her having an abortion...

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          • scamper
            Commando
            • May 2005
            • 1073

            #6
            Originally posted by Nickdfresh
            Well, now the the asstards in South Dakota can rape their daughters, and not have to worry about her having an abortion...
            Fuck you. You have no fucking idea you puss.

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            • scamper
              Commando
              • May 2005
              • 1073

              #7
              Originally posted by BITEYOASS
              Well seeing that ole SD is a backwards rural red state
              Fuck you too, dumbass

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              • Roy Munson
                Veteran
                • Feb 2004
                • 1522

                #8
                Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                Well, now the the asstards in South Dakota can rape their daughters, and not have to worry about her having an abortion...

                This, coming from a guy who lives in Baffalo.

                Originally posted by ELVIS
                I guess you're right...

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                • BITEYOASS
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                  • Jan 2004
                  • 6529

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jhale667
                  ...Said the guy from Alabama! Sorry---I agree with you, but couldn't help noticing the irony...

                  It IS seriously backward thinking...and I also didn't notice any mention of increasing SD Planned Parenthood's budget towards education on contraception....dumbasses.
                  Well I'm originally from Jackson, Michigan. But I moved to Alabama because I fell in love with a big-titty woman who is 16 years older than I am! And we're both not republican.

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                  • BITEYOASS
                    ROTH ARMY ELITE
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 6529

                    #10
                    Of course everyone blames the fuckin south for the incest crap, when it actually happens more often with rich cunts from other parts of the country or nutcase religious folks.

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                    • BITEYOASS
                      ROTH ARMY ELITE
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 6529

                      #11
                      Of course if this was the civil war era, than them yankees would shoot me for treason!

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                      • Cathedral
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                        • Jan 2004
                        • 6618

                        #12
                        You people amaze me with your excuses and labeling of people who are absolutely NOT religious, as being religious.
                        There is but one map that can bring you back to reality, but you refuse to read it.

                        Anyway, this thread is the winner of my 1 post per day if at all on this site, and here goes.

                        The responses so far project this idea that since abortions will happen whether or not it is legal it should be ok because it's a womans right to choose, and that excuse is flat out rediculous.
                        By that logic then, since murder happens everyday in every town we should just go ahead and draw up some legal guidlines that says it's ok to kill one another, it's the same thing if you really think about it.

                        Murder is murder, the big moral difference is that you support the weakest of our society, the fetus, being exterminated legally under the guise of a "Woman's Right".
                        The liberal communist mindset is that there is never a victim, that is until YOU become one yourself and then your point of view takes a hard (RIGHT) turn as YOU then seek JUSTICE for YOURSELF.

                        In your ignorance you all ignore the fact that God will judge you as he does the murderer because you support the murderer in your heart.

                        Let me tell you all something you probably don't know while you swim your life away in ignorance...YOU can't please everyone in this world, so YOU may as well please God...it's only his judgement that matters as when we die we leave this earth and arrive at his court to be judged.
                        where will all your liberal communist friends be then?
                        Huh?
                        Tell me, who are you going to band with when it's just you and almighty God standing face to face and YOU have absolutely no choice but to listen to all the charges you are guilty of in his eyes?

                        Don't argue other points, answer the questions I asked or don't bother to reply at all cause i won't acknowledge talking points on this issue about Bush or war killing innocent people.

                        The topic is abortion, so try to stay focused for once.

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                        • Roy Munson
                          Veteran
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 1522

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Cathedral
                          You people amaze me with your excuses and labeling of people who are absolutely NOT religious, as being religious.
                          There is but one map that can bring you back to reality, but you refuse to read it.

                          Anyway, this thread is the winner of my 1 post per day if at all on this site, and here goes.

                          The responses so far project this idea that since abortions will happen whether or not it is legal it should be ok because it's a womans right to choose, and that excuse is flat out rediculous.
                          By that logic then, since murder happens everyday in every town we should just go ahead and draw up some legal guidlines that says it's ok to kill one another, it's the same thing if you really think about it.

                          Murder is murder, the big moral difference is that you support the weakest of our society, the fetus, being exterminated legally under the guise of a "Woman's Right".
                          The liberal communist mindset is that there is never a victim, that is until YOU become one yourself and then your point of view takes a hard (RIGHT) turn as YOU then seek JUSTICE for YOURSELF.

                          In your ignorance you all ignore the fact that God will judge you as he does the murderer because you support the murderer in your heart.

                          Let me tell you all something you probably don't know while you swim your life away in ignorance...YOU can't please everyone in this world, so YOU may as well please God...it's only his judgement that matters as when we die we leave this earth and arrive at his court to be judged.
                          where will all your liberal communist friends be then?
                          Huh?
                          Tell me, who are you going to band with when it's just you and almighty God standing face to face and YOU have absolutely no choice but to listen to all the charges you are guilty of in his eyes?

                          Don't argue other points, answer the questions I asked or don't bother to reply at all cause i won't acknowledge talking points on this issue about Bush or war killing innocent people.

                          The topic is abortion, so try to stay focused for once.
                          Ok, Cat. I agree with you but what is your stance on capital punishment?
                          Originally posted by ELVIS
                          I guess you're right...

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                          • Cathedral
                            ROTH ARMY ELITE
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 6618

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Roy Munson
                            Ok, Cat. I agree with you but what is your stance on capital punishment?
                            Killing is wrong, for any reason.
                            Yes, that means my point of view has changed as i did support execution, and war based on political theory as recently as last week.

                            I've seen first hand with the rest of the world what a false christian is capable of when in power. A true born again chrisitan could not do as Bush has done and sadly it took 6 years to learn that.
                            After a ton of thought and soul searching it has become clear to me that a true christian would have went with diplomacy until someone raised their hand towards us, not the way things went down the last 6 years.

                            How can i support a war machine that delivers death, or anything that delivers death and serve God obediently?

                            The answer is simple...I can't.
                            It was after all a government that sentenced an innocent Jesus to death, so in the end i have to believe that no true obedient servant of God can ever serve as leader of a nation that serves both God and Satan, as our lesser of TWO evils political system offers.

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                            • FORD
                              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 58754

                              #15
                              Just a reminder that "this liberal communist mindset" was invented by Prescott Bush, who was one of the originators of Planned Parenthood, as part of his fascist based ideology of "Eugenics", basically a "master race" theology brought about by aborting the children of "inferior" races.

                              And depsite the image they project to get religious reich votes, the BCE's position on abortion and eugenics has not changed one degree since the 1930's.
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