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Hardrock69
02-24-2006, 04:51 PM
The internal logs of at least 40 Sequoia touch-screen voting machines reveal that votes were time and date-stamped as cast two weeks before the election, sometimes in the middle of the night.

Black Box Voting successfully sued former Palm Beach County (FL) Supervisor of Elections Theresa LePore to get the audit records for the 2004 presidential election.

After investing over $7,000 and waiting nine months for the records, Black Box Voting discovered that the voting machine logs contained approximately 100,000 errors. According to voting machine assignment logs, Palm Beach County used 4,313 machines in the Nov. 2004 election. During election day, 1,475 voting system calibrations were performed while the polls were open, providing documentation to substantiate reports from citizens indicating the wrong candidate was selected when they tried to vote.

Another disturbing find was several dozen voting machines with votes for the Nov. 2, 2004 election cast on dates like Oct. 16, 15, 19, 13, 25, 28 2004 and one tape dated in 2010. These machines did not contain any votes date-stamped on Nov. 2, 2004.

You can find the complete set of raw voting machine event logs for Palm Beach County here: http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/2197/6628.html
Note that some items were not provided to us and are ommitted from the logs.

The logs rule out the possibility that these were Logic & Accuracy (L&A) test results, and verified that these results did appear in the final totals. In addition to the date discrepancies, most had incorrect polling times, with votes appearing throughout the wee hours of the night. These machines were L&A tested, and the L&A test activities appeared in the logs with the correct date and time.

According to the voting machine assignment log, these machines were not assigned to early voting locations. The number of votes on each machine also corresponds with the numbers typical of polling place machines rather than early voting.

Many of these machines showed unexplained log activity after the L&A test but before Election Day. In addition, many more machines without date anomalies showed this log activity, which revealed someone powering up the machine, opening the program, then powering it down again. In one instance, the date discrepancy appeared when someone accessed the machine two minutes after the L&A test was completed.

Voting machines are computers, and computers have batteries that can cause date and time discrepancies, but it does not appear that these particular discrepancies could have been caused by battery problems.

The evidence indicates that someone accessed the computers after the L&A and before the election, and that this access caused a change in the machine's reporting functions, at least for date and time. Such access would take a high degree of inside access. It is not known whether any other changes were introduced into the voting machines at this time. As learned in the Hursti experiments, it is possible for an insider to access the machines and leave no trace, but sometimes a hasty or clumsy access (such as forgetting to enter a correct date/time value when altering a record) will leave telltale tracks.

For another example of time discrepancies, see the Volusia County poll tapes

Approximately 4,000 votes were cast on these machines. The vote pattern and activity pattern appears to be identical to typical patterns found on Election Day -- All votes on the discrepant machines were spread over a 12-hour period, the length of time the Florida polls are open.

A member of the Palm Beach County electronic voting technical committee asked for the names of the technicians for Palm Beach who had access to the machines during that time, but the IT person, Jeff Darter, remained silent and never answered the question.

The Palm Beach County Supervisor of Elections, Arthur Anderson, said that his staff had looked into the problem and that the votes were normal, it's just that the dates somehow changed.

Other anomalies
http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/2197/6627.html (Anomaly info)

� "Card Stuck" error: Occured at least 70,000 times.

The logs show that these cards were placed in the machine (which normally "swallows" the card like old-fashioned ATM machines, holding the card inside until the voting activites are complete, then ejecting it). The logs show that the card was authenticated, indicating that the machine believed the card was valid and had retrieved the appropriate ballot. Just before the vote was cast, the "card stuck" error appeared.

According to Michelle Shafer, who is now the spokesperson for Sequoia Voting Systems, a card stuck error stuck error appears "any time an activation card makes contact with the activator in the electronic voting unit and comes back out. This happens for the following reasons:

� A voter does not push the card all the way in so it comes back out
� A voter inserts the card again after having already used it to vote once...
� A voter inserts the card backwards
� The card actually gets stuck in the machine (not typical)

Previously, a Sequioa rep attributed the card stuck error to jiggling the card while it is inserted, however that doesn't seem to hold up since it would take a pair of tweezers and considerable manual dexterity to jiggle it.

As to putting the card in backwards or upside down, the message that normally appears is probably the "invalid card insertion" message. Because of the high number of these errors, and because no reports were produced indicating that any voters had reported the card popping out while they were trying to vote, Black Box Voting recommended to Palm Beach that testing should be done to replicate the error, making sure that the explanation holds water and that there is no adverse impact on the vote.

A member of the Committee asked whether a testing day could be set up, but Jeff Darter again sat silent, and despite some prodding, no such testing appears to be on the horizon.

� AC Power Off Incidents Any of us who use computers know that it is not a good idea to yank the power from your machine while you are entering mission-critical data, especially without a backup. (The Palm Beach voting machines lack voter verified paper trails.)

Dozens of voting machines were turned off during the middle of the election while the polls were open. Machine # 6359 in precinct 1036 was powered down 128 times during the election.

Other power-related issues included "Main Battery not charging" and "backup battery too low".

� "Unknown event" messages

A handful of machines showed "unknown event" messages, apparently of different kinds. This is an interesting error message, since the FEC guidelines frown on undefined exceptions. What is the point of having an error message if you don't reveal anything about what the error is?

Machine number 5875 in Precinct 1077 showed two different "unknown errors," listing them as "unknown error 219" and "unknown error 220."

� auto-act election info bad and "auto-act write ver fail" messages also show up in the logs, with the "election info bad" message appearing hundreds of times.

� Card encryption bad and Card read fail errors also appeared, with the encryption error message the more frequent of the two.

� Polls closed and results report messages would be expected to appear on every voting machine at the end of the voting cycle, but these revealed problems with poll worker training and procedures at the administrative/training level. Some logs reported one report printed, some two, three, four or five, and several not only had no results tape printed but showed no closing of the polls. (Closing the polls tells the voting machine not to accept any more votes).

� Simulation not sim task was a message that offered no ready explanation, and another that left us wondering was the "Maint Official AT Report" error. Call a maintenance official? Maintain an official AT report?

� SyErr 23: RC/AT Verify
and Sys Err 31: Vote Not Rec 1 imply a system error of some type, at least one of which would affect the vote.

� EEPROM failure
Now this is a message you don't want to see on a voting machine. It happened a couple dozen times. It is somewhat akin to seeing a "hard disk failure" message on your computer -- not a good thing at all if you are in the process of entering critical time-sensitive data.

The logs indicate that poll workers used significantly different operating procedures from one place to another. One of the least desirable actions some poll workers were taking was to perform multiple calibrations on the machines during the day, every few hours.

Hundreds of records were simply missing, not provided at all, making it impossible to complete a formal audit.

After meeting with the authorities to determine protocols about releasing the detailed report, Black Box Voting plans to publish a detail report giving full log details on the 40 machines accessed by an insider.

Sequoia machines - locations

Sequoia touch-screens are also used in Pinellas County (FL), Riverside, San Bernardino and Santa Clara countis (CA), New Mexico, New Jersey, and formerly in Snohomish County (WA).

A sampling of Palm Beach precincts with votes appearing on wrong date/time

Precinct 3066 machine #8438 counted Oct. 15
Precinct 3068 machine #8490 Counted Oct. 28
Precinct 3086 machine #8316 counted Oct 14
Precinct 2132 machine #7441 counted Oct. 15
Precinct 6006 machine #7914 counted Oct. 14
Precinct 6018 machine #7877 counted Oct. 14
Precinct 4068 machine #8997 counted Oct. 16
Precinct 5142 machine #9724 counted Oct 18
Precinct 2072 machine #6848 counted Oct. 15
Precinct 4140 machine #9289 counted Oct. 17
Precinct 4084 machine #8101 counted Oct. 17



Read more here:

http://www.bbvforums.org/cgi-bin/forums/board-auth.cgi?file=/1954/19421.html

FORD
03-10-2006, 01:28 AM
Bump.... for those who missed it the first time through.

This is one issue that will NOT be allowed to go away.

Hardrock69
03-10-2006, 02:34 AM
Here is some more stuff:

30% of ES&S Voting Machines Fail Recent Test in Ohio

http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00002524.htm


E-Voting System Adds 100,000+ Votes in One Texas County During Tuesday's Primary Election!:

http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00002526.htm

FL Candidate Votes for Self, Sequoia Touch-Screen Voting Machine Flips Vote to Opponent!:

http://www.bradblog.com/archives/00002528.htm

Roy Munson
03-10-2006, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by FORD
Bump.... for those who missed it the first time through.

This is one issue that will NOT be allowed to go away.


Of course.

And whenever there is a thread brought up about Bill Clinton what do you bitch about?

Keep whining about the 2004 election until the cows come home.

Fucking hypocrite fucks.

Roy Munson
03-10-2006, 10:41 AM
THE FUCKING ELECTION IS OVER, RETARDS!

JESUS H CHRIST...FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO BITCH ABOUT...DON'T YOU HAVE SOME CONSPIRACY THEORIES YOU SHOULD BE DREAMING UP?

Fucking wack-jobs.

FORD
03-10-2006, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by Roy Munson
Of course.

And whenever there is a thread brought up about Bill Clinton what do you bitch about?

Keep whining about the 2004 election until the cows come home.

Fucking hypocrite fucks.

Bill Clinton was legally elected President of the United States twice. Whatever ridiculous proportions you want to blow up (pardon the pun) the Monica incident into, it had NOTHING to do with the topic being discussed in this thread.

Keep whining about a guy getting his dick sucked until the fascists invade your home

....and drag you off to the "re-education camps".

FORD
03-10-2006, 11:27 AM
Fuck the thread-jacking. This subject is too important.

LoveWalksIn
03-10-2006, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Fuck the thread-jacking. This subject is too important.


you're damn right it is!!!

down with the BCE!!!!

RED ROCKER FOREVER!!!!!!!!

FORD
03-10-2006, 12:54 PM
5. Humane slaughter
The most efficient and widely available method of humanely destroying sheep is a gunshot to the brain from a close range.

The use of firearms is subject to the provisions of the Firearms Act 1996.
Note:

* A .22 calibre rifle or pistol is adequate for humane destruction of sheep. High velocity hollow point ammunition should be used. Use two magazines per firearm to minimize reloading time.
* To provide maximum impact and the least possibility of misdirection, sheep should be shot at point blank range. The person using the firearm should move quietly through the pen with the sheep. Under no circumstances should the sheep be shot "over the fence".
* Never fire while the animal is moving its head; wait for a quiet interval before firing.

Under normal circumstances, the recommended method of humane killing of livestock is a brain shot, followed by bleeding out. The bleeding out of large numbers of sheep at the side of a burial pit is not possible, for logistical and safety reasons.

DPIWE experience is that even the most careful operator using a single shot will wound, rather than kill outright, a small percentage of sheep. Wounded animals cannot be assumed to be unconscious.

It is vital to ensure that all sheep are dead before placing them in the pit. There should be no heartbeat, breathing or eye movement. A small percentage of sheep may require a second shot, or bleeding out.

The recommended position and direction for the use of a firearm is illustrated below.


http://www.dpiwe.tas.gov.au/inter.nsf/Images/LBUN-5353JT/$File/land_sheepbullet1.jpg
Recommended position and direction of fire for the firearm - hornless sheep and rams.

Using a firearm: Shoot at point (a) just behind the poll in the direction of the animal’s muzzle.

http://www.dpiwe.tas.gov.au/inter.nsf/Images/LBUN-5353LW/$File/land_sheepbullet2.gif
Recommended position and direction of fire for firearm - horned sheep and rams.

Using a firearm: Shoot at a point in the middle of the face just above the level of the eyes whilst aiming along the neck.

Roy Munson
03-10-2006, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by FORD



So now you're threatening to kill people on an internet forum?

FORD
03-10-2006, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Roy Munson
So now you're threatening to kill people on an internet forum?

I did no such thing.

lesfunk
03-10-2006, 03:03 PM
Ever Notice that the machines only screw up when Democrat/Liberals don't win elections?
I guess every time a Democrat wins an election the machines work perfectly.

Roy Munson
03-10-2006, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by FORD
I did no such thing.


Sure you did. You call us conservatives "sheep", no? Then you put up an illustration of how to kill sheep?

Can't you deal with us without resorting to such measures?

ODShowtime
03-10-2006, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by Roy Munson
THE FUCKING ELECTION IS OVER, RETARDS!

JESUS H CHRIST...FIND SOMETHING ELSE TO BITCH ABOUT...DON'T YOU HAVE SOME CONSPIRACY THEORIES YOU SHOULD BE DREAMING UP?

Fucking wack-jobs.

You're a moron if you really believe there was no funny business. The Secretary of State of Ohio and the CEO of Diebold both pledged the state to gw&friends before the election... in writing! I won't be supporting these facts here as they are well documented in this forum. You should see the one tirade I went into not long after the election. I called all the neocons out on the floor and they had nothing relevant to say... as usual.

And this will matter once this snowball starts rolling and the bums you voted for start getting idicted. Roy.

ODShowtime
03-10-2006, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by lesfunk
Ever Notice that the machines only screw up when Democrat/Liberals don't win elections?
I guess every time a Democrat wins an election the machines work perfectly.

I don't recall anyone here saying that.

Roy Munson
03-10-2006, 03:21 PM
Originally posted by ODShowtime
I don't recall anyone here saying that.


Maybe not, but that fact is quite apparent.

ODShowtime
03-10-2006, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by Roy Munson
Maybe not, but that fact is quite apparent.

Your understanding of the word "fact" appears to be unclear.

Roy Munson
03-10-2006, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by ODShowtime
You're a moron if you really believe there was no funny business. The Secretary of State of Ohio and the CEO of Diebold both pledged the state to gw&friends before the election... in writing! I won't be supporting these facts here as they are well documented in this forum. You should see the one tirade I went into not long after the election. I called all the neocons out on the floor and they had nothing relevant to say... as usual.

And this will matter once this snowball starts rolling and the bums you voted for start getting idicted. Roy.


Seriously, don't you think that there is possible fraud on all levels and on BOTH sides? Let's just open the ENTIRE can of worms then, shall we? That's my point in this deal.

And, when is this going to be a big deal in the mainstream press? You guys put up all these stories you get from different internet sites but there seems to be no major national dialogue on it. Why is that?

FORD
03-10-2006, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by lesfunk
Ever Notice that the machines only screw up when Democrat/Liberals don't win elections?
I guess every time a Democrat wins an election the machines work perfectly.

ALL the electro-fraud voting machine companies are OWNED AND OPERATED BY REPUBLICANS.

Chuck Hagel, a Senator from Nebraska, was the CEO of ES&S systems, which is the #2 supplier behind Diebold.

In the election that put Hagel into the Senate, 81% of the votes in Nebraska were counted on ES&S machines.

Wally O'Dell, CEO of Diebold promised that he would "deliver" the state of Ohio to George Bush Jr in 2004, the same exact words Jeb Bush used in 2000 in regards to Florida. Sure enough, Ohio was "delivered" in a similar fashion.

Criminally.

FORD
03-10-2006, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by Roy Munson
Sure you did. You call us conservatives "sheep", no? Then you put up an illustration of how to kill sheep?

Can't you deal with us without resorting to such measures?

The sheep tutorial was meant for the board spamming Hagar blower.

Surely, you don't object to me responding to cheese peddlers, do you, Roy? ;)

BTW, next time I send his kitten to Bill Frist.

ODShowtime
03-10-2006, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Roy Munson
Seriously, don't you think that there is possible fraud on all levels and on BOTH sides? Let's just open the ENTIRE can of worms then, shall we? That's my point in this deal.

Of course both sides could cheat. But the repubs were holding the cards, they won the presidential election, and the exit polls were all wrong everywhere. There is just no way enough people were still believing his bullshit in Nov 2004. Everything crumbled immediately afterwards. Katrina helped of course.

And, when is this going to be a big deal in the mainstream press? You guys put up all these stories you get from different internet sites but there seems to be no major national dialogue on it. Why is that?

Most likely because people were threatened with muder. Speculation obviously, but these people have proven they can't be trusted. You migth enjoy busting on weak-minded liberals, but you can't tell me that you truly trust these shit stains any more. No one with any sense does.

Roy Munson
03-10-2006, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by FORD
The sheep tutorial was meant for the board spamming Hagar blower.

Surely, you don't object to me responding to cheese peddlers, do you, Roy? ;)

BTW, next time I send his kitten to Bill Frist.


Surely the "kitten" must be the balance for the other troll - Jesus Christ.

:D

FORD
03-10-2006, 03:33 PM
Our Lord and Savior is no troll :(

Roy Munson
03-10-2006, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by ODShowtime



See, your "murder-threat" explanation just doesn't hold water with me. I'm sorry, but I just can't see how that many people could keep their mouths shut about something such as this. It requires too many people for a cover-up so I do have trouble believing it as such.

I will give you this, though...I'm not entirely happy with the way things have been going with our country for years. And that includes the Clinton Administration, too.

Roy Munson
03-10-2006, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Our Lord and Savior is no troll :(


He and Satan are the ultimate trolls. You didn't know they are in cahoots?

Warham
03-10-2006, 03:39 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Our Lord and Savior is no troll :(

Our LORD doesn't post here, but our lord does.

Big difference.

FORD
03-10-2006, 04:29 PM
OK, enough threadjacking.

Bottom line, Busheep......

Do you guys actually WANT to be in power on the basis of a FRAUD??

You claim you can't understand why so many people hate the Chimp, despite his obvious failures at everything he's done. Perhaps it's because he never had a legal right to the office in the first place.

The Nixon, Reagan, and Poppy presidencies all sickened me to one degree or another, and all three damaged this country in some way. But they were elected, and the majority of the voters got their say. It was a fact. It could be verified. And even though some shady circumstances were obviously involved in the 1980 election (October surprise) the vote itself was legit.

You cannot say that about 2000. And especially in light of the most recent evidence, you cannot say that about 2004.

George Bush Jr has destroyed this country, and all without even the benefit of an actual election.

Is that really what Republicans want??

And if so, how can you NOT call it fascism?

EAT MY ASSHOLE
03-10-2006, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by FORD

Do you guys actually WANT to be in power on the basis of a FRAUD??



Yeah, sure, why not...

(you asked) :)

Warham
03-10-2006, 05:08 PM
You act like this is something that's NEVER happened on your side of the aisle FORD.

I think that guy in your avatar got into office under shady circumstances, especially when you take what happened in Chicago into account.

FORD
03-10-2006, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by Warham
You act like this is something that's NEVER happened on your side of the aisle FORD.

I think that guy in your avatar got into office under shady circumstances, especially when you take what happened in Chicago into account.

I'm well aware that there were "questions" about the Chicago returns in the 1960 election.

However, Nixon could have asked for a recount, and the ballots would have been there as evidence, had he done so.

If George Soros, Ted Turner or Paul Allen bought Diebold tomorrow and hired an entirely new staff, straight from the staff of past Democratic campaigns to run the company (and program the software), the Republicans would never stop complaining until every last machine was removed.

Because you KNOW the machines are corrupt as Hell.

Roy Munson
03-10-2006, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by FORD
OK, enough threadjacking.

Bottom line, Busheep......

Do you guys actually WANT to be in power on the basis of a FRAUD??

You claim you can't understand why so many people hate the Chimp, despite his obvious failures at everything he's done. Perhaps it's because he never had a legal right to the office in the first place.

The Nixon, Reagan, and Poppy presidencies all sickened me to one degree or another, and all three damaged this country in some way. But they were elected, and the majority of the voters got their say. It was a fact. It could be verified. And even though some shady circumstances were obviously involved in the 1980 election (October surprise) the vote itself was legit.

You cannot say that about 2000. And especially in light of the most recent evidence, you cannot say that about 2004.

George Bush Jr has destroyed this country, and all without even the benefit of an actual election.

Is that really what Republicans want??

And if so, how can you NOT call it fascism?


My question to you is that if it's so obvious why isn't it obvious?

And I'm talking about the election, the BCE, 911, etc.

ODShowtime
03-10-2006, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Because you KNOW the machines are corrupt as Hell.

And they don't have to have a FRAUD BUTTON on the side either! All they need to do is have weak controls and security, which they did. That's it. That's all the collusion needed on Deibold's front, straight from the top, the CEO.


All a fraudster needs is some stealth operatives with Excel skills. Now how hard of a scenario is that to believe with the stakes at hand and what we already know about these scumbags?

FORD
03-10-2006, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by Roy Munson
My question to you is that if it's so obvious why isn't it obvious?

And I'm talking about the election, the BCE, 911, etc.

Because the corporate whore media won't report the facts.

EAT MY ASSHOLE
03-10-2006, 06:49 PM
You're giving DIEBOLD far too much credit. Don't forget the genius of redistricting to discount the votes of minorities and other communities that traditionally vote Democrat.

I'm just waiitng till Manhattan, Oregon and L.A. are redistricted to be parts of Louisiana, Canada, and Maine.

As they should be.

Guitar Shark
03-10-2006, 06:54 PM
FORD, was Diebold involved at all in the 2004 Washington state gubernatorial election?

FORD
03-10-2006, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by Guitar Shark
FORD, was Diebold involved at all in the 2004 Washington state gubernatorial election?

I don't know, but Sequoia probably gave Rossi more votes in Snohomish county than he actually got.

Guitar Shark
03-10-2006, 07:23 PM
You should probably try to figure that one out. Unless you're afraid it might blow your theory out of the water. ;)

Roy Munson
03-10-2006, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by Guitar Shark
You should probably try to figure that one out. Unless you're afraid it might blow your theory out of the water. ;)


He won't look into it.

Roy Munson
03-10-2006, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Because the corporate whore media won't report the facts.


Absolutely NOT the answer I was looking for and you know it!!

C'mon, I know you're better than that. Give me the scoop without the dogshit.

Nickdfresh
03-10-2006, 10:54 PM
Actually MSNBC's Keith OLBERMANN did look into and reported extensively, and came to the conclusion that the media was ignoring some irregularities in order to avoid the repeat fallout of 2000...

Lqskdiver
03-10-2006, 10:56 PM
Originally posted by FORD
Bump.... for those who missed it the first time through.

This is one issue that will NOT be allowed to go away.

Dead issue...

Gone away...

Forgotten about...

Moved on....

Listen, the sooner you accept the fact that we stole the election the better off you will be.

We own this country and we now own you.

So, while we are comfortably living our lives in peace and privacy, those who voted against the party will have their rights revoked, their privacies invaded, all their undergarments confiscated and forced to listen to nothing but Red Rocker Cheddar Rock.

Long live the Republicanarchy.

:killer:

Roy Munson
03-10-2006, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Actually MSNBC's Keith OLBERMANN did look into and reported extensively, and came to the conclusion that the media was ignoring some irregularities in order to avoid the repeat fallout of 2000...


I'd go in on buying some of that.

Roy Munson
03-10-2006, 11:04 PM
Originally posted by Lqskdiver
Dead issue...

Gone away...

Forgotten about...

Moved on....

Listen, the sooner you accept the fact that we stole the election the better off you will be.

We own this country and we now own you.

So, while we are comfortably living our lives in peace and privacy, those who voted against the party will have their rights revoked, their privacies invaded, all their undergarments confiscated and forced to listen to nothing but Red Rocker Cheddar Rock.

Long live the Republicanarchy.

:killer:


Everybody stand back. We have a winner!!!!!

Step up to the flatbed trailer to receive your trophy.

http://mortoncolliery.play-cricket.com/UploadedFiles/photogallery/4826/18042/jpg/_lg_6_a-side_trophy_presentation__2_.jpg

Nickdfresh
03-10-2006, 11:04 PM
There is no hard evidence on overwhelming fraud, but people have shown that these machines can be hacked easier than Paris Hilton's cell phone...

Roy Munson
03-10-2006, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
There is no hard evidence on overwhelming fraud, but people have shown that these machines can be hacked easier than Paris Hilton's cell phone...


See. You obviously have NO idea what you're talking about.

It was Paris' Blackberry that was hacked.


:D

Nickdfresh
03-10-2006, 11:33 PM
I honestly thought it was her phone, either way, she's a big whore...

Roy Munson
03-11-2006, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I honestly thought it was her phone, either way, she's a big whore...


Not true either. She's a slut.

Satan
03-11-2006, 03:56 PM
Paris Hilton is the female Chimpy. A brainless rich kid who is only famous because of what her grandparents did.

Roy Munson
03-11-2006, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by Satan
Paris Hilton is the female Chimpy. A brainless rich kid who is only famous because of what her grandparents did.


Sounds like you're talking about the Kennedy family. Say "hi" to most of them for me.


:D

Cathedral
03-11-2006, 10:52 PM
Again, it's never the Democrats fault for losing an election.
it has always got to be either an inside or outside conspiracy that is robbing them of their power.

Not to say there isn't shady crap going on during all elections, like when a parking lot of cars and vans that are supposed to get registered republicans to the polls on election day mysteriously get their tires slashed the day before.

Or how about in the last election where Democrats picked up a seat here and there...where're all the threads about those being rigged, huh?

Oh no, the Democrats never cheat at all, their just perfect fucking angels when elections come around.

Y'all make me sick how you call the opposition "sheep" when your bleating ass is Baaaaa'ing along in your own herd of geopolitical losers.

I got news for you, corruption IS corruption no matter what team you bat for.
A stolen base is still a base not earned, but stolen, that's why it's called a "stolen" base, right?

But hey, it counts if it gets you home though, right?

Most of you are too damn stupid to understand that you can't rust any of them, not just Bush, not just this Administration, not just Kerry-Clinton-Dean-Gore etc. etc. etc.

Enjoy grazing in that grass, dumbasses, your going to end up with exactly what all of you are hoping against, and why?

Because they are ALL evil, vile, corrupt, sons-a-bitches looking out for themselves and only themselves.

YOUR fault comes in thinking you can trust a damn single one of them, Republican OR Democrat.