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FORD
02-28-2006, 02:38 AM
February 24, 2006, 2:51 p.m.

It Didn’t Work

"I can tell you the main reason behind all our woes — it is America." The New York Times reporter is quoting the complaint of a clothing merchant in a Sunni stronghold in Iraq. "Everything that is going on between Sunni and Shiites, the troublemaker in the middle is America."

One can't doubt that the American objective in Iraq has failed. The same edition of the paper quotes a fellow of the American Enterprise Institute. Mr. Reuel Marc Gerecht backed the American intervention. He now speaks of the bombing of the especially sacred Shiite mosque in Samara and what that has precipitated in the way of revenge. He concludes that “The bombing has completely demolished” what was being attempted — to bring Sunnis into the defense and interior ministries.

Our mission has failed because Iraqi animosities have proved uncontainable by an invading army of 130,000 Americans. The great human reserves that call for civil life haven't proved strong enough. No doubt they are latently there, but they have not been able to contend against the ice men who move about in the shadows with bombs and grenades and pistols.

The Iraqis we hear about are first indignant, and then infuriated, that Americans aren't on the scene to protect them and to punish the aggressors. And so they join the clothing merchant who says that everything is the fault of the Americans.

The Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, elucidates on the complaint against Americans. It is not only that the invaders are American, it is that they are "Zionists." It would not be surprising to learn from an anonymously cited American soldier that he can understand why Saddam Hussein was needed to keep the Sunnis and the Shiites from each others' throats.

A problem for American policymakers — for President Bush, ultimately — is to cope with the postulates and decide how to proceed.

One of these postulates, from the beginning, was that the Iraqi people, whatever their tribal differences, would suspend internal divisions in order to get on with life in a political structure that guaranteed them religious freedom.

The accompanying postulate was that the invading American army would succeed in training Iraqi soldiers and policymkers to cope with insurgents bent on violence.

This last did not happen. And the administration has, now, to cope with failure. It can defend itself historically, standing by the inherent reasonableness of the postulates. After all, they govern our policies in Latin America, in Africa, and in much of Asia. The failure in Iraq does not force us to generalize that violence and antidemocratic movements always prevail. It does call on us to adjust to the question, What do we do when we see that the postulates do not prevail — in the absence of interventionist measures (we used these against Hirohito and Hitler) which we simply are not prepared to take? It is healthier for the disillusioned American to concede that in one theater in the Mideast, the postulates didn't work. The alternative would be to abandon the postulates. To do that would be to register a kind of philosophical despair. The killer insurgents are not entitled to blow up the shrine of American idealism.

Mr. Bush has a very difficult internal problem here because to make the kind of concession that is strategically appropriate requires a mitigation of policies he has several times affirmed in high-flown pronouncements. His challenge is to persuade himself that he can submit to a historical reality without forswearing basic commitments in foreign policy.

He will certainly face the current development as military leaders are expected to do: They are called upon to acknowledge a tactical setback, but to insist on the survival of strategic policies.

Yes, but within their own counsels, different plans have to be made. And the kernel here is the acknowledgment of defeat.

(c) 2006 Universal Press Syndicate


link (http://www.nationalreview.com/buckley/buckley200602241451.asp)

Nitro Express
02-28-2006, 03:27 AM
The Bush Administration went against everything Tsun Tsu said in the book Art of War. Bush would have known his plan for Iraq was doomed to fail if he simply would have read the Quran.

If you want to understand Muslims, there's nothing better than to read their holy scripture. In the Quran it's made very clear that Muslims are believers and non Muslims are nonbelievers. Islamic nations are to be deffended by every good Muslim to throw the invading non believers out. Good Muslims die and go to a paridisical heaven. Non believers no matter how nice and good they are go to hell.

Invading Islamic nations only fuels the hate. They don't want us there. It was American troops being stationed in Saudi Arabia in the first Gulf War that angered Osama Bin Ladden and ear marked the US for a terrorist retaliation. 9/11 happened because we sent troops and stationed troops in Saudi Arabia and other Islamic nations. They don't want us and they don't want our help. Just by being there, they hate us more.

FORD
02-28-2006, 03:39 AM
True, but Junior doesn't read.

Period. Not even the newspapers, by his own admission. Maybe the obviously slanted "briefings" from his staff, but he doesn't even read those all the time (August 6, 2001, for example)

And of course, the PNAC'ers being militant Likud Zionists didn't help matters any. The claimed it would be a "cake walk" and that future generations would sing hymns about PNAC. What a bunch of lamebrained arrogant assholes.

ELVIS
02-28-2006, 03:41 AM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
9/11 happened because we sent troops and stationed troops in Saudi Arabia and other Islamic nations.


LMAO!

ODShowtime
02-28-2006, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by ELVIS
LMAO!

Bin Laden's said so himself you moron.

Why don't you share your ideas for once? Do you have any?

Seshmeister
02-28-2006, 08:37 AM
I thought this thread was going to be about Diamond Den

Dr. Love
02-28-2006, 08:43 AM
Oh the ironicy.

FORD
02-28-2006, 09:38 AM
Originally posted by Seshmeister
I thought this thread was going to be about Diamond Den

Well, he's a major fuckup as well, but I doubt Buckley ever heard of him.