The Koran..?

[thome]

I did a search and found some threads about -abusing the Koran-
-Gitmo guards peeing on it-, -one about kicking it- ,and general
farting in it's general direction threads . I know no-one cares about others OP, so heres mine.,.......... Here how it go:

What is the Koran..?
What is it? a compilation of the writings of a illiterate nomad who
pieced together parts of the Christian bible and the Hebrew texts.?

All in 600 A.D. his rise to power mohammed is somewhat like
a Rags to Riches story.Orphaned a two yrs or slightly older.
grew up in abject poverty to marry well and become a big operator
of Camel Caravans.

When he declares himself of the divine spirit he was instrumental in helping the poor around him.and uniteing his new religon with other
cities and eventualy creating a Billion + believers.

The joining together of Arabic tribes in what is now called Saudi Arabia.
All this under the Truth? stated in the Koran that mohammed IS GOD.?

That Jesus Christ was a prophet and was switched at the time of crusifiction with a looka- like.Muhammeds explaniation of why
he is God not Jesus .?

After all of Jesus's healing of the sick, the blind to see ,feeding the loaves and fishes to thousands ,curing leprosy All admitted to in the Koran by Mohammed He couldn't have the resuraction as a truth
that would screw up Mohammeds bid at God-Hood.

Seems like the Koran is just a pervertion of the Christian and Hebrew Bibles Re-written to suit his own personal goals and lust for power.?

Yes /No..?

[ELVIS]

Re: The Koran..?

Originally posted by thome

That Jesus Christ was a prophet and was switched at the time of crusifiction with a looka- like.Muhammeds explaniation of why
he is God not Jesus .?

That part alone should raise an eyebrow...

[FORD]

Muhammad never claimed to be God, or the Son of God. Neither do Muslims claim him as such. They do claim him as a higher prophet than Jesus or pretty much anyone else though.

[thome]

Re: Re: The Koran..?

Originally posted by ELVIS
That part alone should raise an eyebrow...

I had heard that -faked Jesus-thing for the resurection and never knew it
was written in the Koran and that, that was where the theory
came from..?

I figured it was made in recent years by anti christian groups.

[ELVIS]

They do claim him as a higher prophet than Jesus or pretty much anyone else though.

..and I dare you to call it bullshit...

C'mon FORD, you know you can do it...

[ELVIS]

Re: Re: Re: The Koran..?

Originally posted by thome
I had heard that -faked Jesus-thing for the resurection and never knew it
was written in the Koran and that, that was where the theory
came from..?

I'm honestly not sure...

[ODShowtime]

Re: The Koran..?

Originally posted by thome


Seems like the Koran is just a pervertion of the Christian and Hebrew Bibles Re-written to suit his own personal goals and lust for power.?

Yes /No..?

Yep, pretty much.

[thome]

Originally posted by FORD
Muhammad never claimed to be God, or the Son of God. Neither do Muslims claim him as such. They do claim him as a higher prophet than Jesus or pretty much anyone else though.

Ok here's the scoop, One of the reasons for all this cartoon mohammed rioting in the streets is the believers believe
the word of god came thru mohammed and that is because
he speaks as god and he is god .
That is the, No images of mohammed reason the muslims
give, is that he is god.
If you caricature mohammed or even portray him as a muslim dude
you are defaming god ...No BS...

[jhale667]

Extremist Muslims should be made to watch an episode of 'South Park'...one with a 'Jesus 'n pals' reference (especially the one where he gets pissed and goes all Rambo on some people) ...like "See? It ain't so bad....now LIGHTEN THE FUCK UP." Nobody's calling for the death of Matt & Trey.

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by thome
Ok here's the scoop, One of the reasons for all this cartoon mohammed rioting in the streets is the believers believe
the word of god came thru mohammed and that is because
he speaks as god and he is god .
That is the, No images of mohammed reason the muslims
give, is that he is god.
If you caricature mohammed or even portray him as a muslim dude
you are defaming god ...No BS...

You're 100% incorrect...

As FORD pointed out, Islamics (yes, that's the proper term) In no way believe Mohammed is God...

[jhale667]

Originally posted by ELVIS
You're 100% incorrect...

As FORD pointed out, Islamics (yes, that's the proper term) In no way believe Mohammed is God...

Which makes their hysteria over caricatures even more ridiculous.....

[ELVIS]

True

[FORD]

The reason religious reich types aren't bothered by the "Jesus" character on South Park is because religious reich types are afraid to watch South Park.

As to what I believe about Jesus vs Muhammad, that wouldn't be given much relevance in the Muslim world.

Hell, if I thought it would, I'd go over there and tell the Muslims, and end all this shit.

ACHMED: Who is the infidel speaking in our mosque?

MOAMMAR: He calls himself "FORD" and claims to be a messenger of Allah.

ACHMED: Messenger of Allah? Look at him, he is from the Great Satan Imperialist nation!!

MOAMMAR: Yes, but listen to him. He hates the Devil Bush even more than we do.

ACHMED: Oh, well that is different then. What is he saying?

MOAMMAR: He says that Allah has told him that Jesus, Peace Be Upon Him, is a higher prophet than Muhammad, Peace Also Be Upon Him, and that Jesus is even Allah's son!

ACHMED: Allah's son?? What blasphemy!

MOAMMAR: No, this man speaks with authority. Truly Allah has given him a voice. I believe him, and I shall pray to Allah the Most Merciful that He teach me of His Son

ACHMED: I must hear this prophet FORD for myself. Allah Akbar!.........

If only it were that simple......

[Nitro Express]

There is no more violence in the Koran than in the bible and the Koran does have as much charity as in the bible. I could start a radicle Christian movement and use the bible to justify killing people if I took the parts of the bible that justified it.

Both the bible and the koran conflict themselves if you read both.

Judism, Christianity, and Islam are all Abrahamic religions and believe Abraham to be a chosen prophet of the one and only God.

What's strange about Islam is it make Muhammad to be the man. You still can believe in the God of Abraham but if you do not believe in Muhammad, then you are still a non-believer.

Face it, the current violence against non-muslims began with the crusades. It's about taking the Islamic lands back and running the zionist Jews and colonialist out. America is seen as being a mix of both since we have half the world's Jews and took over the British meddling in the Middle East.

Most religiouse movements also have political and economic motivations. Radicle islam is about running the outsiders out and unifying Muslims. The clerics and radicles who stir this shit up want to control more land, more people, and more wealth.

It's all about control and greed and hijacking a major religion to do it. Christianity, Islam, Judism and other religions can be perfectly harmless and even an asset. It's when greedy motherfuckers use these religions to get power where things become dangerouse.

[jhale667]

Originally posted by Nitro Express
I could start a radicle Christian movement and use the bible to justify killing people if I took the parts of the bible that justified it.

You say that as if it hasn't already been done. I seem to recall zealots blowing up a few abortion clinics, and murdering a doctor or two...