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  • Roy Munson
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    • Feb 2004
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    Incompetence - The Clinton Years


    Clinton Has No Clothes
    What 9/11 revealed about the ex-president.

    By Byron York, NR White House Correspondent
    From the December 17, 2001, issue of National Review



    On June 25, 1996, a powerful truck bomb exploded outside the Khobar Towers barracks in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, tearing the front from the building, blasting a crater 35 feet deep, and killing 19 American soldiers. Hundreds more were injured. When news reached Washington, President Bill Clinton vowed to bring the killers to justice. "The cowards who committed this murderous act must not go unpunished," he said angrily. "Let me say again: We will pursue this. America takes care of our own. Those who did it must not go unpunished." The next day, leaving the White House to attend an economic summit in France, Clinton had more tough words for the attackers. "Let me be very clear: We will not resist" — the president corrected himself — "we will not rest in our efforts to find who is responsible for this outrage, to pursue them and to punish them."

    As Clinton spoke, his top political strategist, Dick Morris, was hard at work conducting polls to gauge the public's reaction to the bombing. "Whenever there was a crisis, I ordered an immediate poll," Morris recalls. "I was concerned about how Clinton looked in the face of [the attack] and whether people blamed him." The bombing happened in the midst of the president's re-election campaign, and even though Clinton enjoyed a substantial lead over Republican Bob Dole, Morris worried that public dissatisfaction with Clinton on the terrorism issue might benefit Dole.

    Indeed, Morris's first poll showed less support for Clinton than he had hoped. But by the time Morris presented his findings to the president and top staffers at a political-strategy meeting a few days later, public approval of Clinton's response had climbed — something Morris noted in his written agenda for the session:

    SAUDI BOMBING — recovered from Friday and looking great
    Approve Clinton handling 73-20
    Big gain from 63-20 on Friday
    Security was adequate 52-40
    It's not Clinton's fault 76-18

    The numbers were a relief for the re-election team. But soon there was another crisis when, on July 17, TWA Flight 800 exploded and crashed into the Atlantic Ocean on its way from New York to Paris. There was widespread suspicion that the crash was the result of terrorism (it was later ruled to be an accident), and Morris's polling found the public growing uneasy not only about air safety but also about Clinton's performance in the Khobar investigation. Morris found that the number of people who believed Clinton was "doing all he can to investigate the Saudi bombing and punish those responsible" was just 54 percent, while 32 percent believed he could do more. Morris feared that White House inaction would allow Dole to portray Clinton as soft on national security.

    "We tested two alternative defenses to this attack: Peace maker or Toughness," Morris wrote in a memo for the president. In the "Peacemaker" defense, Morris asked voters to respond to the statement, "Clinton is peacemaker. Brought together Arabs and Israelis. Ireland. Bosnia cease fire. Uses strength to bring about peace." The other defense, "Tough ness," asked voters to respond to "Clinton tough. Stands up for American interests. Against foreign companies doing business in Cuba. Sanctions against Iran. Anti-terrorist legislation held up by Republicans. Prosecuted World Trade Center bombers." Morris found that the public greatly preferred "Toughness."

    So Clinton talked tough. But he did not act tough. Indeed, a review of his years in office shows that each time the president was confronted with a major terrorist attack — the February 26, 1993, bombing of the World Trade Center, the Khobar Towers attack, the August 7, 1998, bombing of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and the October 12, 2000, attack on the USS Cole — Clinton was preoccupied with his own political fortunes to an extent that precluded his giving serious and sustained attention to fighting terrorism.


    At the time of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, his administration was just beginning, and he was embroiled in controversies over gays in the military, an economic stimulus plan, and the beginnings of Hillary Clinton's health-care task force. Khobar Towers happened not only in the midst of the president's re-election campaign but also at the end of a month in which there were new and damaging developments in the Whitewater and Filegate scandals. The African embassy attacks occurred as the Monica Lewinsky affair was at fever pitch, in the month that Clinton appeared before independent counsel Kenneth Starr's grand jury. And when the Cole was rammed, Clinton had little time left in office and was desperately hoping to build his legacy with a breakthrough in the Arab-Israeli conflict. Whenever a serious terrorist attack occurred, it seemed Bill Clinton was always busy with something else.

    The First WTC Attack
    Clinton had been in office just 38 days when terrorists bombed the World Trade Center, killing six people and injuring more than 1,000. Although it was later learned that the bombing was the work of terrorists who hoped to topple one of the towers into the other and kill as many as 250,000 people, at first it was not clear that the explosion was the result of terrorism. The new president's reaction seemed almost disengaged. He warned Americans against "overreacting" and, in an interview on MTV, described the bombing as the work of someone who "did something really stupid."

    From the start, Clinton approached the investigation as a law-enforcement issue. In doing so, he effectively cut out some of the government's most important intelligence agencies. For example, the evidence gathered by FBI agents and prosecutors came under the protection of laws mandating grand-jury secrecy — which meant that the law-enforcement side of the investigation could not tell the intelligence side of the investigation what was going on. "Nobody outside the prosecutorial team and maybe the FBI had access," says James Woolsey, who was CIA director at the time. "It was all under grand-jury secrecy."

    Another problem with Clinton's decision to assign the investigation exclusively to law enforcement was that law enforcement in the new administration was in turmoil. When the bomb went off, Clinton did not have a confirmed attorney general; Janet Reno, who was nominated after the Zoë Baird fiasco, was awaiting Senate approval. The Justice Department, meanwhile, was headed by a Bush holdover who had no real power in the new administration. The bombing barely came up at Reno's Senate hearings, and when she was finally sworn in on March 12, neither she nor Clinton mentioned the case. (Instead, Clinton praised Reno for "sharing with us the life-shaping stories of your family and career that formed your deep sense of fairness and your unwavering drive to help others to do better.") In addition, at the time the bombing investigation began, the FBI was headed by William Sessions, who would soon leave after a messy forcing-out by Clinton. A new director, Louis Freeh, was not confirmed by the Senate until August 6.

    Amid all the turmoil at the top, the investigation missed some tantalizing clues pointing toward a far-reaching conspiracy. In April 1995, for example, terrorism expert Steven Emerson told the House International Relations Committee that there was information that "strongly suggests . . . a Sudanese role in the World Trade Center bombing. There are also leads pointing to the involvement of Osama bin Laden, the ex-Afghan Saudi mujahideen supporter now taking refuge in Sudan." Two years later, Emerson told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee the same thing. In recent years, according to an exhaustive New York Times report, "American intelligence officials have come to believe that [ringleader Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman] and the World Trade Center bombers had ties to al-Qaeda."

    But the Clinton administration stuck with its theory that the bombing was the work of a loose network of terrorists working apart from any government sponsorship.
    Intelligence officials who might have thought otherwise were left out in the cold — "I made repeated attempts to see Clinton privately to take up a whole range of issues and was unsuccessful," Woolsey recalls — and some of the nation's most critical intelligence capabilities went unused. In the end, the U.S. tried six suspects in the attack. All were convicted and sentenced to life in prison. Another key suspect, Abdul Rahman Yasin, was released after being held by the FBI in New Jersey and fled to Baghdad, where he is living under the protection of the Iraqi government. Today, with many leads gone cold, intelligence officials concede they will probably never know who was behind the attack.

    Khobar Towers
    "In June of 1996, it felt like an entire herd was converging on the White House," wrote Clinton aide George Stephanopoulos in his memoir, All Too Human. A herd of scandals, that is: In late May, independent counsel Kenneth Starr had convicted Jim and Susan McDougal and Jim Guy Tucker in the first big Whitewater trial; in June, the Filegate story first broke into public view, and Sen. Alphonse D'Amato issued his committee's Whitewater report recommending that several administration officials be investigated for perjury. It was also in June that the White House went into full battle mode against a variety of allegations contained in Unlimited Access, a book by former FBI agent Gary Aldrich.

    All these developments were heavy on the minds of Clinton, Dick Morris, and the other members of the re-election strategy team when the bomb went off at Khobar Towers on June 25. As it had after the World Trade Center bombing, a distracted White House gave the case to law enforcement. But there is significant evidence to suggest that the White House was even less interested in finding answers than it had been in the World Trade Center case. In the Khobar investigation, the Clinton administration not only failed to follow potentially productive leads but in some instances actively made the investigators' job more difficult.

    From the beginning, the administration ran into significant Saudi resistance (the Saudis quickly identified a few low-level suspects and beheaded them, hoping to end the matter there). According to a long account of the case by Elsa Walsh published earlier this year in The New Yorker, FBI director Louis Freeh on several occasions urged the White House to pressure the Saudis for more cooperation. More than once, Walsh reports, Freeh was frustrated to learn that the president barely mentioned the case in meetings with Saudi leaders.

    Freeh — whose own relations with the White House had deteriorated badly in the wake of the Filegate and campaign-finance scandals — became convinced that the White House didn't really want to push the Saudis for more information, which Freeh believed would confirm strong suspicions of extensive Iranian involvement in the attack. Walsh reports that in September 1998, Freeh, angry and losing hope, took the extraordinary step of secretly asking former president George H. W. Bush to intercede with the Saudi royal family. Acting without Clinton's knowledge, Bush made the request, and the Saudis began to provide new information, which indeed pointed to Iran.

    In late 1998, Walsh reports, Freeh went to national security adviser Sandy Berger to tell him that it appeared the FBI had enough evidence to indict several suspects. "Who else knows this?" Berger asked Freeh, demanding to know if it had been leaked to the press. Freeh said it was a closely held secret. Then Berger challenged some of the evidence of Iranian involvement. "That's just hearsay," Berger said. "No, Sandy," Freeh responded. "It's testimony of a co-conspirator . . ." According to Walsh's account, Freeh thought that "Berger . . . was not a national security adviser; he was a public-relations hack, interested in how something would play in the press. After more than two years, Freeh had concluded that the administration did not really want to resolve the Khobar bombing."

    Ultimately, Freeh never got the support he wanted from the White House. Walsh writes that "by the end of the Clinton era, Freeh had become so mistrustful of Clinton that, although he believed he had developed enough evidence to seek indictments against the masterminds behind the attack, not just the front-line suspects, he decided to wait for a new administration." Just before Freeh left office, Walsh reports, he met with new president George W. Bush and gave him a list of suspects in the bombing. In June, attorney general John Ashcroft announced the indictment of 14 suspects: 13 Saudis and one Lebanese. It is not clear whether any of them are the "masterminds" of Khobar; none is in American custody and no Iranian officials were named in the indictment.

    Both the Khobar investigation and the World Trade Center bombing presented Clinton with daunting challenges; there were sensitive political issues involved, and in each case it was not immediately clear who was behind the violence. But in neither instance did Clinton press hard for answers and demand action; Berger would not have taken the position he did if the president fully supported a vigorous investigation. In the coming years, Clinton would be faced with clear acts of terrorism carried out by an organization with undeniable state support. But again, busy with other things, he did little.

    The Embassies
    On August 7, 1998, bombs exploded at U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania. More than 200 people were killed, including 12 Americans. The morning of the attacks, Clinton said, "We will use all the means at our disposal to bring those responsible to justice, no matter what or how long it takes. . . . We are determined to get answers and justice."

    Investigators quickly discovered that bin Laden was behind the attacks
    . On August 20, Clinton ordered cruise-missile strikes on a bin Laden camp in Afghanistan and the al-Shifa pharmaceutical plant in Sudan. But the strikes were at best ineffectual. There was little convincing evidence that the pharmaceutical factory, which admin istration officials believed was involved in the production of material for chemical weapons, actually was part of a weapons-making operation, and the cruise missiles in Afghanistan missed bin Laden and his deputies.

    Instead of striking a strong blow against terrorism, the action set off a howling debate about Clinton's motives. The president ordered the action three days after appearing before the grand jury investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair, and Clinton's critics accused him of using military action to change the subject from the sex-and-perjury scandal — the so-called "wag the dog" strategy. Some of Clinton's allies, suspecting the same thing, remained silent. Even some of those who, after briefings by administration officials, publicly defended the strikes privately questioned Clinton's decision.

    The accusations came as no surprise to the White House. "Everyone knew the 'wag the dog' charge was going to be made," recalls Daniel Benjamin, a terrorism expert on the National Security Council. But Benjamin and others believed — mistakenly, as it turned out — that they could convince the skeptics the attacks were fully justified. "I remember being shocked and deeply depressed over the fact that no one would take seriously what I considered a grave national-security problem," says Benjamin. "Not only were they not buying it, they were accusing the administration of essentially playing the most shallow and foolish kind of game to deflect attention from other issues. It was astonishing."

    In particular, reporters and some members of Congress were not convinced by the administration's evidence that the al-Shifa plant was involved in chemical-weapons production. The attack came to be viewed, by consensus, as a screw-up. In a new article in The New York Review of Books, Benjamin suggests that that skepticism, particularly on the part of reporters, scared Clinton away from any more tough action against bin Laden. "The dismissal of the al-Shifa attack as a blunder had serious consequences, including the failure of the public to comprehend the nature of the al-Qaeda threat," Benjamin writes. "That in turn meant there was no support for decisive measures in Afghanistan — including, possibly, the use of U.S. ground forces — to hunt down the terrorists; and thus no national leader of either party publicly suggested such action."

    After the cruise-missile raids, the administration restricted its work to covert actions breaking up terrorist cells. Benjamin and others say a significant number of terrorist plots were short-circuited, preventing several acts of violence. "I see no reason to doubt their word on that," says James Woolsey. "They may have been doing a lot of stuff behind the scenes." But breaking up individual cells while avoiding larger-scale action probably had the effect of postponing terrorist acts rather than stopping them. Woolsey believes that such an approach was part of what he calls Clinton's "PR-driven" approach to terrorism, an approach that left the fundamental problem unsolved: "Do something to show you're concerned. Launch a few missiles in the desert, bop them on the head, arrest a few people. But just keep kicking the ball down the field."

    The Cole
    The last act of terrorism during the Clinton administration came on October 12, 2000, when bin Laden operatives bombed the USS Cole in Aden, Yemen. Seventeen American sailors were killed, 39 others were wounded, and one of the U.S.'s most sophisticated warships was nearly sunk.

    Clinton's reaction to the Cole terrorism was more muted than his response to the previous attacks. While he called the bombing "a despicable and cowardly act" and said, "We will find out who was responsible and hold them accountable," he seemed more concerned that the attack might threaten the administration's work in the Middle East (the bombing came at the same time as a new spate of violence between Israelis and Palestinians). "If [the terrorists'] intention was to deter us from our mission of promoting peace and security in the Middle East, they will fail utterly," Clinton said on the morning of the attack. The next day, the Washington Post's John Harris, who had good connections inside the administration, wrote, "While the apparent suicide bombing of the USS Cole may have been the more dramatic episode for the American public, the escalation between Israelis and Palestinians took the edge in preoccupying senior administration officials yesterday. This was regarded as the more fluid of the two problems, and it presented the broader threat to Clinton's foreign policy aims."

    As in 1998, U.S. investigators quickly linked the bombing to bin Laden and his sponsors in Afghanistan's Taliban regime. Together with the embassy bombings, the Cole blast established a clear pattern of attacks on American interests carried out by bin Laden's organization. Clinton had a solid rationale, and would most likely have had solid public support, for strong military action. Yet he did nothing.
    Perhaps he didn't want to endanger the cherished goal of Middle East peace. Perhaps he didn't want to disrupt the 2000 presidential campaign, then in its last days. Perhaps he didn't know quite what to do. But in the end, the ball was kicked a bit farther down the field.

    In early August 1996, a few weeks after the Khobar Towers bombing, Clinton had a long conversation with Dick Morris about his place in history. Morris divided presidents into four categories: first tier, second tier, third tier, and the rest. Twenty-two presidents who presided over uneventful administrations fell into the last category. Just five — Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Wilson, and Franklin Roosevelt — made Morris's first tier.

    Clinton asked Morris where he stood. "I said that at the moment he was at the top of the unrated category," Morris recalls. Morris says he told the president that one surprising thing about the ratings was that a president's standing had little to do with the performance of the economy during his time in office. "Yeah," Clinton responded, "It has so much to do with whether you get re-elected or not, but history kind of forgets it."

    Clinton then asked, "What do I need to do to be first tier?" "I said, 'You can't,'" Morris remembers. "'You have to win a war.'" Clinton then asked what he needed to do to make the second or third tier, and Morris outlined three goals. The first was successful welfare reform. The second was balancing the budget. And the third was an effective battle against terrorism. "I said the only one of the major goals he had not achieved was a war on terrorism," Morris says. (This is not a recent recollection; Morris also described the conversation in his 1997 book, Behind the Oval Office.)

    But Clinton never began, much less finished, a war on terrorism. Even though Morris's polling showed the poll-sensitive president that the American people supported tough action, Clinton demurred. Why?

    "He had almost an allergy to using people in uniform," Morris explains. "He was terrified of incurring casualties; the lessons of Vietnam were ingrained far too deeply in him. He lacked a faith that it would work, and I think he was constantly fearful of reprisals." But there was more to it than that. "On another level, I just don't think it was his thing," Morris says. "You could talk to him about income redistribution and he would talk to you for hours and hours. Talk to him about terrorism, and all you'd get was a series of grunts."

    And that is the key to understanding Bill Clinton's handling of the terrorist threat that grew throughout his two terms in the White House: It just wasn't his thing. Clinton was right when he said history might care little about the prosperity of his era. Now, as he tries to defend his record on terrorism, he appears to sense that he will be judged harshly on an issue that is far more important than the Nasdaq or 401(k) balances. He's right about that, too.
    Originally posted by ELVIS
    I guess you're right...
  • ULTRAMAN VH
    Commando
    • May 2004
    • 1480

    #2
    He spent more time and effort going after Bill Gates, an American than Osama a terrorist.

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    • LoungeMachine
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Jul 2004
      • 32555

      #3
      *crickets chirping*
      Originally posted by Kristy
      Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
      Originally posted by cadaverdog
      I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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      • Satan
        ROTH ARMY ELITE
        • Jan 2004
        • 6664

        #4
        PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:20 am Post subject: Bill Clinton Accomplishments IN SPITE OF Repug House Reply with quote
        The Clinton Presidency: A Historic Era of Progress and Prosperity


        Longest economic expansion in American history
        The President’s strategy of fiscal discipline, open foreign markets and investments in the American people helped create the conditions for a record 115 months of economic expansion. Our economy has grown at an average of 4 percent per year since 1993.


        More than 22 million new jobs
        More than 22 million jobs were created in less than eight years -- the most ever under a single administration, and more than were created in the previous twelve years.


        Highest homeownership in American history
        A strong economy and fiscal discipline kept interest rates low, making it possible for more families to buy homes. The homeownership rate increased from 64.2 percent in 1992 to 67. 7 percent, the highest rate ever.


        Lowest unemployment in 30 years
        Unemployment dropped from more than 7 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000. Unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics fell to the lowest rates on record, and the rate for women is the lowest in more than 40 years.


        Raised education standards, increased school choice, and doubled education and training investment
        Since 1992, reading and math scores have increased for 4th, 8th, and 12th graders, math SAT scores are at a 30-year high, the number of charter schools has grown from 1 to more than 2,000, forty-nine states have put in place standards in core subjects and federal investment in education and training has doubled.


        Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
        President Clinton and Vice President Gore have nearly doubled financial aid for students by increasing Pell Grants to the largest award ever, expanding Federal Work-Study to allow 1 million students to work their way through college, and by creating new tax credits and scholarships such as Lifetime Learning tax credits and the HOPE scholarship. At the same time, taxpayers have saved $18 billion due to the decline in student loan defaults, increased collections and savings from the direct student loan program.


        Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
        President Clinton and Vice President Gore’s new commitment to education technology, including the E-Rate and a 3,000 percent increase in educational technology funding, increased the percentage of schools connected to the Internet from 35 percent in 1994 to 95 percent in 1999.


        Lowest crime rate in 26 years
        Because of President Clinton’s comprehensive anti-crime strategy of tough penalties, more police, and smart prevention, as well as common sense gun safety laws, the overall crime rate declined for 8 consecutive years, the longest continuous drop on record, and is at the lowest level since 1973.


        100,000 more police for our streets
        As part of the 1994 Crime Bill, President Clinton enacted a new initiative to fund 100,000 community police officers. To date more than 11,000 law enforcement agencies have received COPS funding.


        Enacted most sweeping gun safety legislation in a generation
        Since the President signed the Brady bill in 1993, more than 600,000 felons, fugitives, and other prohibited persons have been stopped from buying guns. Gun crime has declined 40 percent since 1992.


        Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
        To help parents succeed at work and at home, President Clinton signed the Family and Medical Leave Act in 1993. Over 20 million Americans have taken unpaid leave to care for a newborn child or sick family member.


        Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
        The President pledged to end welfare as we know it and signed landmark bipartisan welfare reform legislation in 1996. Since then, caseloads have been cut in half, to the lowest level since 1968, and millions of parents have joined the workforce. People on welfare today are five times more likely to be working than in 1992.


        Higher incomes at all levels
        After falling by nearly $2,000 between 1988 and 1992, the median family’s income rose by $6,338, after adjusting for inflation, since 1993. African American family income increased even more, rising by nearly $7,000 since 1993. After years of stagnant income growth among average and lower income families, all income brackets experienced double-digit growth since 1993. The bottom 20 percent saw the largest income growth at 16.3 percent.


        Lowest poverty rate in 20 years
        Since Congress passed President Clinton’s Economic Plan in 1993, the poverty rate declined from 15.1 percent to 11.8 percent last year — the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years. There are now 7 million fewer people in poverty than in 1993. The child poverty rate declined more than 25 percent, the poverty rates for single mothers, African Americans and the elderly have dropped to their lowest levels on record, and Hispanic poverty dropped to its lowest level since 1979.


        Lowest teen birth rate in 60 years
        In his 1995 State of the Union Address, President Clinton challenged Americans to join together in a national campaign against teen pregnancy. The birth rate for teens aged 15-19 declined every year of the Clinton Presidency, from 60.7 per 1,000 teens in 1992 to a record low of 49.6 in 1999.


        Lowest infant mortality rate in American history
        The Clinton Administration expanded efforts to provide mothers and newborn children with health care. Today, a record high 82 percent of all mothers receive prenatal care. The infant mortality rate has dropped from 8.5 deaths per 1,000 in 1992 to 7.2 deaths per 1,000 in 1998, the lowest rate ever recorded.


        Deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union
        Efforts of the Clinton-Gore Administration led to the dismantling of more than 1,700 nuclear warheads, 300 launchers and 425 land and submarine based missiles from the former Soviet Union.


        Protected millions of acres of American land
        President Clinton has protected more land in the lower 48 states than any other president. He has protected 5 new national parks, designated 11 new national monuments and expanded two others and proposed protections for 60 million acres of roadless areas in America’s national forests.


        Paid off $360 billion of the national debt
        Between 1998-2000, the national debt was reduced by $363 billion — the largest three-year debt pay-down in American history. We were now on track to pay off the entire debt by 2009 when Clinton left office.


        Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus
        Thanks in large part to the 1993 Deficit Reduction Act, the 1997 Balanced Budget Act, and President Clinton’s call to save the surplus for debt reduction, Social Security, and Medicare solvency, America has put its fiscal house in order. The deficit was $290 billion in 1993 and expected to grow to $455 billion by this year. Instead, we had a projected surplus of $237 billion when Clinton left office.


        Lowest government spending in three decades
        Under President Clinton federal government spending as a share of the economy has decreased from 22.2 percent in 1992 to a projected 18.5 percent in 2000, the lowest since 1966.


        Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
        President Clinton enacted targeted tax cuts such as the Earned Income Tax Credit expansion, $500 child tax credit, and the HOPE Scholarship and Lifetime Learning Tax Credits. Federal income taxes as a percentage of income for the typical American family have dropped to their lowest level in 35 years.


        More families own stock than ever before
        The number of families owning stock in the United States increased by 40 percent since 1992.


        Most diverse cabinet in American history
        The President has appointed more African Americans, women and Hispanics to the Cabinet than any other President in history. He appointed the first female Attorney General, the first female Secretary of State and the first Asian American cabinet secretary ever.
        Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

        Originally posted by Sockfucker
        I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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        • Satan
          ROTH ARMY ELITE
          • Jan 2004
          • 6664

          #5
          And now, in the interests of being "fair and balanced".....

          George W. Bush:
          accomplishments as president

          * Attacked a nation that posed no threat to us.
          * Spent the surplus and bankrupted the treasury.
          * Shattered record for biggest annual deficit in history.
          * Set economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any 12 month period.
          * Set all-time record for biggest drop in the history of the stock market.
          * First president in decades to execute a federal prisoner.
          * First president in US history to enter office with a criminal record.
          * First year in office set the all-time record for most days on vacation by any president in US history.
          * After taking the entire month of August off for vacation, presided over the worst security failure in US history.
          * Set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips than any other president in US history.
          * In my first two years in office over 2 million Americans lost their job.
          *Cut unemployment benefits for more out of work Americans than any president in US history.
          * Set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a 12 month period.
          * Appointed more convicted criminals to administration positions than any president in US history.
          * Set the record for the least amount of press conferences than any president since the advent of television.
          * Signed more laws and executive orders amending the Constitution than any president in US history.
          * Presided over the biggest energy crises in US history and refused to intervene when corruption was revealed.
          * Presided over the highest gasoline prices in US history and refused to use the national reserves as past presidents have.
          * Cut healthcare benefits for war veterans.
          * Set the all-time record for most people worldwide to simultaneously take to the streets to protest me (15 million people), shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of mankind.
          * Dissolved more international treaties than any president in US history.
          * My presidency is the most secretive and un-accountable of any in US history.
          * Members of my cabinet are the richest of any administration in US history. (the 'poorest' multi-millionaire, Condoleeza Rice has an Exxon oil tanker named after her).
          * First president in US history to have all 50 states of the Union simultaneously go bankrupt.
          * Presided over the biggest corporate stock market fraud of any market in any country in the history of the world.
          * First president in US history to order a US attack and military occupation of a sovereign nation.
          * Created the largest government department bureaucracy in the history of the United States.
          * Set the all-time record for biggest annual budget spending increases, more than any president in US history.
          * First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the human rights commission.
          * First president in US history to have the United Nations remove the US from the elections monitoring board.
          * Removed more checks and balances, and have the least amount of congressional oversight than any presidential administration in US history.
          * Rendered the entire United Nations irrelevant.
          * Withdrew from the World Court of Law.
          * Refused to allow inspectors access to US prisoners of war and by default no longer abide by the Geneva Conventions.
          * First president in US history to refuse United Nations election inspectors (during the 2002 US elections).
          * All-time US (and world) record holder for most corporate campaign donations.
          * My biggest life-time campaign contributor presided over one of the largest corporate bankruptcy frauds in world history (Kenneth Lay, former CEO of Enron Corporation).
          * Spent more money on polls and focus groups than any president in US history.
          * First president in US history to unilaterally attack a sovereign nation against the will of the United Nations and the world community.
          * First president to run and hide when the US came under attack (and then lied saying the enemy had the code to Air Force 1)
          * First US president to establish a secret shadow government.
          * Took the biggest world sympathy for the US after 911, and in less than a year made the US the most resented country in the world (possibly the biggest diplomatic failure in US and world history).
          * With a policy of 'dis-engagement' created the most hostile Israeli-Palestine relations in at least 30 years.
          * First US president in history to have a majority of the people of Europe (71%) view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and stability.
          * First US president in history to have the people of South Korea more threatened by the US than their immediate neighbor, North Korea.
          * Changed US policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government contracts.
          * Set all-time record for number of administration appointees who violated US law by not selling huge investments in corporations bidding for government contracts.
          * Failed to fulfill my pledge to get Osama Bin Laden 'dead or alive'.
          * Failed to capture the anthrax killer who tried to murder the leaders of our country at the United States Capital building. After 18 months I have no leads and zero suspects.
          * In the 18 months following the 911 attacks I have successfully prevented any public investigation into the biggest security failure in the history of the United States.
          * Removed more freedoms and civil liberties for Americans than any other president in US history.
          * In a little over two years created the most divided country in decades, possibly the most divided the US has ever been since the civil war.
          * Entered office with the strongest economy in US history and in less than two years turned every single economic category heading straight down.
          Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

          Originally posted by Sockfucker
          I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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          • Roy Munson
            Veteran
            • Feb 2004
            • 1522

            #6
            Originally posted by LoungeMachine
            *crickets chirping*

            Thanks for letting us know what's going on inside of your skull.

            Originally posted by ELVIS
            I guess you're right...

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            • Roy Munson
              Veteran
              • Feb 2004
              • 1522

              #7
              Originally posted by Satan
              PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 8:20 am Post subject: Bill Clinton Accomplishments IN SPITE OF Repug House Reply with quote
              The Clinton Presidency: A Historic Era of Progress and Prosperity


              Longest economic expansion in American history
              The President’s strategy of fiscal discipline, open foreign markets and investments in the American people helped create the conditions for a record 115 months of economic expansion. Our economy has grown at an average of 4 percent per year since 1993.


              More than 22 million new jobs
              More than 22 million jobs were created in less than eight years -- the most ever under a single administration, and more than were created in the previous twelve years.


              Highest homeownership in American history
              A strong economy and fiscal discipline kept interest rates low, making it possible for more families to buy homes. The homeownership rate increased from 64.2 percent in 1992 to 67. 7 percent, the highest rate ever.


              Lowest unemployment in 30 years
              Unemployment dropped from more than 7 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000. Unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics fell to the lowest rates on record, and the rate for women is the lowest in more than 40 years.


              Raised education standards, increased school choice, and doubled education and training investment
              Since 1992, reading and math scores have increased for 4th, 8th, and 12th graders, math SAT scores are at a 30-year high, the number of charter schools has grown from 1 to more than 2,000, forty-nine states have put in place standards in core subjects and federal investment in education and training has doubled.


              Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
              President Clinton and Vice President Gore have nearly doubled financial aid for students by increasing Pell Grants to the largest award ever, expanding Federal Work-Study to allow 1 million students to work their way through college, and by creating new tax credits and scholarships such as Lifetime Learning tax credits and the HOPE scholarship. At the same time, taxpayers have saved $18 billion due to the decline in student loan defaults, increased collections and savings from the direct student loan program.


              Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
              President Clinton and Vice President Gore’s new commitment to education technology, including the E-Rate and a 3,000 percent increase in educational technology funding, increased the percentage of schools connected to the Internet from 35 percent in 1994 to 95 percent in 1999.


              Lowest crime rate in 26 years
              Because of President Clinton’s comprehensive anti-crime strategy of tough penalties, more police, and smart prevention, as well as common sense gun safety laws, the overall crime rate declined for 8 consecutive years, the longest continuous drop on record, and is at the lowest level since 1973.


              100,000 more police for our streets
              As part of the 1994 Crime Bill, President Clinton enacted a new initiative to fund 100,000 community police officers. To date more than 11,000 law enforcement agencies have received COPS funding.


              Enacted most sweeping gun safety legislation in a generation
              Since the President signed the Brady bill in 1993, more than 600,000 felons, fugitives, and other prohibited persons have been stopped from buying guns. Gun crime has declined 40 percent since 1992.


              Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
              To help parents succeed at work and at home, President Clinton signed the Family and Medical Leave Act in 1993. Over 20 million Americans have taken unpaid leave to care for a newborn child or sick family member.


              Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
              The President pledged to end welfare as we know it and signed landmark bipartisan welfare reform legislation in 1996. Since then, caseloads have been cut in half, to the lowest level since 1968, and millions of parents have joined the workforce. People on welfare today are five times more likely to be working than in 1992.


              Higher incomes at all levels
              After falling by nearly $2,000 between 1988 and 1992, the median family’s income rose by $6,338, after adjusting for inflation, since 1993. African American family income increased even more, rising by nearly $7,000 since 1993. After years of stagnant income growth among average and lower income families, all income brackets experienced double-digit growth since 1993. The bottom 20 percent saw the largest income growth at 16.3 percent.


              Lowest poverty rate in 20 years
              Since Congress passed President Clinton’s Economic Plan in 1993, the poverty rate declined from 15.1 percent to 11.8 percent last year — the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years. There are now 7 million fewer people in poverty than in 1993. The child poverty rate declined more than 25 percent, the poverty rates for single mothers, African Americans and the elderly have dropped to their lowest levels on record, and Hispanic poverty dropped to its lowest level since 1979.


              Lowest teen birth rate in 60 years
              In his 1995 State of the Union Address, President Clinton challenged Americans to join together in a national campaign against teen pregnancy. The birth rate for teens aged 15-19 declined every year of the Clinton Presidency, from 60.7 per 1,000 teens in 1992 to a record low of 49.6 in 1999.


              Lowest infant mortality rate in American history
              The Clinton Administration expanded efforts to provide mothers and newborn children with health care. Today, a record high 82 percent of all mothers receive prenatal care. The infant mortality rate has dropped from 8.5 deaths per 1,000 in 1992 to 7.2 deaths per 1,000 in 1998, the lowest rate ever recorded.


              Deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union
              Efforts of the Clinton-Gore Administration led to the dismantling of more than 1,700 nuclear warheads, 300 launchers and 425 land and submarine based missiles from the former Soviet Union.


              Protected millions of acres of American land
              President Clinton has protected more land in the lower 48 states than any other president. He has protected 5 new national parks, designated 11 new national monuments and expanded two others and proposed protections for 60 million acres of roadless areas in America’s national forests.


              Paid off $360 billion of the national debt
              Between 1998-2000, the national debt was reduced by $363 billion — the largest three-year debt pay-down in American history. We were now on track to pay off the entire debt by 2009 when Clinton left office.


              Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus
              Thanks in large part to the 1993 Deficit Reduction Act, the 1997 Balanced Budget Act, and President Clinton’s call to save the surplus for debt reduction, Social Security, and Medicare solvency, America has put its fiscal house in order. The deficit was $290 billion in 1993 and expected to grow to $455 billion by this year. Instead, we had a projected surplus of $237 billion when Clinton left office.


              Lowest government spending in three decades
              Under President Clinton federal government spending as a share of the economy has decreased from 22.2 percent in 1992 to a projected 18.5 percent in 2000, the lowest since 1966.


              Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
              President Clinton enacted targeted tax cuts such as the Earned Income Tax Credit expansion, $500 child tax credit, and the HOPE Scholarship and Lifetime Learning Tax Credits. Federal income taxes as a percentage of income for the typical American family have dropped to their lowest level in 35 years.


              More families own stock than ever before
              The number of families owning stock in the United States increased by 40 percent since 1992.


              Most diverse cabinet in American history
              The President has appointed more African Americans, women and Hispanics to the Cabinet than any other President in history. He appointed the first female Attorney General, the first female Secretary of State and the first Asian American cabinet secretary ever.

              You seem to have missed the point of my article. Can't you fucking read either?

              Originally posted by ELVIS
              I guess you're right...

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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49136

                #8
                My my my...

                What a piece of shit Op-Ed article so fraut with errors...

                Nice attempt at a partisan ass-covering for the pResident that allowed 9/11 to happen on his watch.

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                • Roy Munson
                  Veteran
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 1522

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                  My my my...

                  What a piece of shit Op-Ed article so fraut with errors...

                  Nice attempt at a partisan ass-covering for the pResident that allowed 9/11 to happen on his watch.

                  Forget to take your pills tonight?

                  After you calm down for a bit please make sure you point out EVERY ERROR in the article. And I do mean every single one.

                  You made a statement, now back it the fuck up.
                  Originally posted by ELVIS
                  I guess you're right...

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                  • Cathedral
                    ROTH ARMY ELITE
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 6620

                    #10
                    Here's my view of this thread:

                    (R): My dicks THIS big!

                    Commie Bastard Liberal: Oh no, mine is bigger!

                    (R): Oh no, MINE'S bigger!

                    Commie Bastard Liberal: MINE!

                    Etc. Etc. Etc.

                    Relax, it's just a trick mirror...

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                    • blueturk
                      Veteran
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 1883

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
                      He spent more time and effort going after Bill Gates, an American than Osama a terrorist.
                      Let's see how Dubya's opinion of bin Laden shifted as his hard-on for Hussein grew...

                      "The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
                      - G.W. Bush, 9/13/01

                      "I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'"
                      - G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI

                      "...Secondly, he is not escaping us. This is a guy, who, three months ago, was in control of a county [sic]. Now he's maybe in control of a cave. He's on the run. Listen, a while ago I said to the American people, our objective is more than bin Laden. But one of the things for certain is we're going to get him running and keep him running, and bring him to justice. And that's what's happening. He's on the run, if he's running at all. So we don't know whether he's in cave with the door shut, or a cave with the door open -- we just don't know...."
                      - Bush, in remarks in a Press Availablity with the Press Travel Pool,
                      The Prairie Chapel Ranch, Crawford TX, 12/28/01, as reported on
                      official White House site

                      "I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
                      - G.W. Bush, 3/13/02

                      "I am truly not that concerned about him."
                      - G.W. Bush, repsonding to a question about bin Laden's whereabouts,
                      3/13/02 (The New American, 4/8/02)
                      Last edited by blueturk; 03-12-2006, 12:48 AM.

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49136

                        #12
                        Re: Incompetence - The Clinton Years

                        Originally posted by Roy Munson
                        [B]
                        Clinton Has No Clothes
                        What 9/11 revealed about the ex-president.

                        By Byron York, NR White House Correspondent
                        From the December 17, 2001, issue of National Review
                        Yeah, a truly an unbiased birdcage liner that would only ever subject both CLINTON and BUSH to the same standards of scrutiny, and would never CYA for pResident Bush-league...


                        On June 25, 1996, a powerful truck bomb exploded outside the Khobar Towers barracks in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, tearing the front from the building, blasting a crater 35 feet deep, and killing 19 American soldiers. Hundreds more were injured. When news reached Washington, President Bill Clinton vowed to bring the killers to justice. "The cowards who committed this murderous act must not go unpunished," he said angrily. "Let me say again: We will pursue this. America takes care of our own. Those who did it must not go unpunished." The next day, leaving the White House to attend an economic summit in France, Clinton had more tough words for the attackers. "Let me be very clear: We will not resist" — the president corrected himself — "we will not rest in our efforts to find who is responsible for this outrage, to pursue them and to punish them."

                        ...
                        SAUDI BOMBING — recovered from Friday and looking great
                        Approve Clinton handling 73-20
                        Big gain from 63-20 on Friday
                        Security was adequate 52-40
                        It's not Clinton's fault 76-18
                        Actually, it was mostly American Airmen killed at Khobar, not soldiers. But hey, they didn't get much else right either... CLINTON actually considered invading IRAN in retaliation for their apparent support for the bombing. He and staff went over the "Eisenhower Plan," a vintage plan featuring amphibious assaults and armored thrusts toward Tehran...


                        So Clinton talked tough. But he did not act tough. Indeed, a review of his years in office shows that each time the president was confronted with a major terrorist attack — the February 26, 1993, bombing of the World Trade Center, the Khobar Towers attack, the August 7, 1998, bombing of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, and the October 12, 2000, attack on the USS Cole — Clinton was preoccupied with his own political fortunes to an extent that precluded his giving serious and sustained attention to fighting terrorism.
                        Really? Actually, CLINTON launched missiles at camps in AFGHANISTAN, and tried to kill OSAMA BIN LADEN on at least three occasions...

                        But when he did this, he was accused of 'wagging the dog' by Republicans bent on bringing him down in a time of war with al-Qaida...

                        ...The bombing barely came up at Reno's Senate hearings, and when she was finally sworn in on March 12, neither she nor Clinton mentioned the case. (Instead, Clinton praised Reno for "sharing with us the life-shaping stories of your family and career that formed your deep sense of fairness and your unwavering drive to help others to do better.") In addition, at the time the bombing investigation began, the FBI was headed by William Sessions, who would soon leave after a messy forcing-out by Clinton. A new director, Louis Freeh, was not confirmed by the Senate until August 6.

                        Amid all the turmoil at the top, the investigation missed some tantalizing clues pointing toward a far-reaching conspiracy. In April 1995, for example, terrorism expert Steven Emerson told the House International Relations Committee that there was information that "strongly suggests . . . a Sudanese role in the World Trade Center bombing. There are also leads pointing to the involvement of Osama bin Laden, the ex-Afghan Saudi mujahideen supporter now taking refuge in Sudan." Two years later, Emerson told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee the same thing. In recent years, according to an exhaustive New York Times report, "American intelligence officials have come to believe that [ringleader Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman] and the World Trade Center bombers had ties to al-Qaeda."
                        Actually, they made a little bit of that up, in fact, there is evidence that the term "al-Qaida/Qaeda was invented by Federal prosecutors in order to investigate Bin LADEN as a "mafia-type organization" using the Rico statute...

                        Al-Qaida is clearly an exaggeration from an organizational standpoint...



                        But the Clinton administration stuck with its theory that the bombing was the work of a loose network of terrorists working apart from any government sponsorship.
                        Actually, it's true. The Afghanistan War proved that al-Qaida was roundly exaggerated by Rumsfeld and others as possessing advance bunkers inside mountains and what not. They clearly didn't, and were almost farcical to some extent... Which is why they collapsed like a house of cards once we finally supported their enemies...

                        Intelligence officials who might have thought otherwise were left out in the cold — "I made repeated attempts to see Clinton privately to take up a whole range of issues and was unsuccessful," Woolsey recalls — and some of the nation's most critical intelligence capabilities went unused.
                        Funny, but others from the Clinton Administration recall CLINTON ordering the CIA to come up with a plan to destroy the Taliban/al-Qaida...

                        They dragged their feet for years, fearing to actually have to carry out the plan, and being blamed if things went badly (which happened in Iraq). But they did, after September 11. So in essence, the war-winning strategy used in Afghanistan was devised under the Clinton Administration. Well, we know what kind of wars the current one "plans" for.


                        In the end, the U.S. tried six suspects in the attack. All were convicted and sentenced to life in prison. Another key suspect, Abdul Rahman Yasin, was released after being held by the FBI in New Jersey and fled to Baghdad, where he is living under the protection of the Iraqi government. Today, with many leads gone cold, intelligence officials concede they will probably never know who was behind the attack.
                        Good thing we invaded then. It was well worth it for that alone... I bet he's sitting on a big pile of chemical weapons as we speak.

                        From the beginning, the administration ran into significant Saudi resistance (the Saudis quickly identified a few low-level suspects and beheaded them, hoping to end the matter there). According to a long account of the case by Elsa Walsh published earlier this year in The New Yorker, FBI director Louis Freeh on several occasions urged the White House to pressure the Saudis for more cooperation. More than once, Walsh reports, Freeh was frustrated to learn that the president barely mentioned the case in meetings with Saudi leaders.

                        Freeh — whose own relations with the White House had deteriorated badly in the wake of the Filegate and campaign-finance scandals — became convinced that the White House didn't really want to push the Saudis for more information, which Freeh believed would confirm strong suspicions of extensive Iranian involvement in the attack. Walsh reports that in September 1998, Freeh, angry and losing hope, took the extraordinary step of secretly asking former president George H. W. Bush to intercede with the Saudi royal family. Acting without Clinton's knowledge, Bush made the request, and the Saudis began to provide new information, which indeed pointed to Iran.
                        LOL LOUIS FREEH. perhaps CLINTON's greatest disaster. An incompetent and a bust as a director. His failed FBI leadership resulted in a dysfunctional agency more interested in investigating CLINTON than Bin LADEN...

                        ...

                        Investigators quickly discovered that bin Laden was behind the attacks
                        . On August 20, Clinton ordered cruise-missile strikes on a bin Laden camp in Afghanistan and the al-Shifa pharmaceutical plant in Sudan. But the strikes were at best ineffectual. There was little convincing evidence that the pharmaceutical factory, which administration officials believed was involved in the production of material for chemical weapons, actually was part of a weapons-making operation, and the cruise missiles in Afghanistan missed bin Laden and his deputies.

                        Instead of striking a strong blow against terrorism, the action set off a howling debate about Clinton's motives. The president ordered the action three days after appearing before the grand jury investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair, and Clinton's critics accused him of using military action to change the subject from the sex-and-perjury scandal — the so-called "wag the dog" strategy. Some of Clinton's allies, suspecting the same thing, remained silent. Even some of those who, after briefings by administration officials, publicly defended the strikes privately questioned Clinton's decision.
                        So, Republicans in Congress that were led by Gingrich on an anti-Clinton jihad were the ones responsible, since they side tracked gov't with unending investigations (over what turned out to be a blowjob)? Yeah, I sort of agree...

                        BTW, what did the BUSH Administration do about al-Qaida between Jan. and Sept. 10, 2001? I mean, he was such a horrifying, pressing threat, right? What did they do for the first nine months of his term?

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                        • blueturk
                          Veteran
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 1883

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Roy Munson
                          "...He had almost an allergy to using people in uniform," Morris explains. "He was terrified of incurring casualties; the lessons of Vietnam were ingrained far too deeply in him. He lacked a faith that it would work, and I think he was constantly fearful of reprisals." ...
                          I'm not even a Clinton fan, but worrying about casualties seems preferable to incurring them in one of the most poorly planned wars in recent history.
                          Last edited by blueturk; 03-12-2006, 12:45 AM.

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                          • Nickdfresh
                            SUPER MODERATOR

                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49136

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Roy Munson
                            Forget to take your pills tonight?

                            After you calm down for a bit please make sure you point out EVERY ERROR in the article. And I do mean every single one.

                            You made a statement, now back it the fuck up.
                            You betcha!

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                            • Warham
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 14589

                              #15
                              The Clinton impeachment wasn't just about a 'blowjob', but you guys can keep thinking that if you like.

                              Plenty of presidents have had blowjobs on the side (JFK comes to mind) and they weren't impeached, or even investigated.

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