Supreme Court judge says civil rights for Guantanamo inmates 'crazy'

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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    Supreme Court judge says civil rights for Guantanamo inmates 'crazy'

    Supreme Court judge says civil rights for Guantanamo inmates 'crazy'

    WASHINGTON (AFP) - A US Supreme Court judge has said it would be "crazy" to give war on terror detainees rights in civil courts, and has castigated Europeans for criticising the Guantanamo detention camp, media reports said.

    The comments attributed to Justice Antonin Scalia were published a day before the Supreme Court starts hearing a key challenge to special military tribunals for "war on terror" suspects at the US naval base in Cuba.

    "War is war, and it has never been the case that when you captured a combatant you have to give them a jury trial in your civil courts," Scalia said during a talk on March 8 at the University of Freiburg in Switzerland, Newsweek magazine reported.

    "Foreigners, in foreign countries, have no rights under the American Constitution," Scalia said, according to the www.scotusblog legal website, adding that "nobody has ever thought otherwise."

    "If he was captured by my army on a battlefield, that is where he belongs," Scalia told the audience.

    "I had a son on that battlefield and they were shooting at my son, and I'm not about to give this man who was captured in a war a full jury trial. I mean it's crazy."

    The conservative judge's son, Matthew, fought in the Iraq war.

    Scalia also said he was "astounded" at the "hypocritical" reaction to the Guantanamo camp in Europe.

    Some legal experts said the comments could be a reason for Scalia to withdraw from hearing the case of Salim Ahmed Hamdan --- Osama Bin Laden's former driver -- in which he is arguing that the US administration does not have the constitutional right to order special military trials.

    The case may also examine the extent to which the Geneva Conventions protect Guantanamo detainees.

    Supreme Court chief justice John Roberts has already withdrawn from the hearing because he ruled on the Hamdan case while serving as an appeal court judge.

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  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35192

    #2
    Facist

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 58785

      #3
      I'll bet Scalia's kid never saw a day in Iraq. Too bad really. That might just have been enough to make him overturn his worst ever illegal decision.
      Eat Us And Smile

      Cenk For America 2024!!

      Justice Democrats


      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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      • Warham
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Mar 2004
        • 14589

        #4
        They shouldn't have civil rights.

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 58785

          #5
          Who, the Scalias?
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

          Justice Democrats


          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • Warham
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Mar 2004
            • 14589

            #6
            No, terrorists being held by the US.

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            • EAT MY ASSHOLE
              Veteran
              • Feb 2006
              • 1887

              #7
              Originally posted by FORD
              Who, the Scalias?
              This, actually, is a VERY funny comeback.
              RIM ME!!!!!!!!!!!!

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              • Seshmeister
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Oct 2003
                • 35192

                #8
                Originally posted by Warham
                No, terrorists being held by the US.
                Who says they are terrorists?

                Who fucking knows?

                How many of them are terorists.

                1,2, 10, all of them?

                How can you possibly know?

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49205

                  #9
                  What about American citizens captured as "enemy combatants" in the US?

                  And if the inmates at GITMO don't deserve US legal protections, then shouldn't they be held as "EP(O)Ws?"

                  Why don't we just adopt the Argentine "Dirty War" method?

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                  • BigBadBrian
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10625

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Seshmeister
                    Who says they are terrorists?

                    Who fucking knows?

                    How many of them are terorists.

                    1,2, 10, all of them?

                    How can you possibly know?
                    Kill 'em all, let God sort them out.

                    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                    • BigBadBrian
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10625

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                      What about American citizens captured as "enemy combatants" in the US?

                      And if the inmates at GITMO don't deserve US legal protections, then shouldn't they be held as "EP(O)Ws?"

                      Why don't we just adopt the Argentine "Dirty War" method?
                      The key phrase in your first statement was "American citizens."

                      The final two statements are just sheer ignorance.

                      “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49205

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                        Kill 'em all, let God sort them out.

                        Yeah, that always works...

                        Oh course, there's always more to replace them with, and your just a "Christian Terrorist" then... And your gov't becomes a lawless, fascist state.

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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49205

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                          The key phrase in your first statement was "American citizens."

                          The final two statements are just sheer ignorance.

                          My ignorance? You just vindicated everything I said...

                          Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                          Kill 'em all, let God sort them out.

                          Stop calling my tea kettle black, BigBlandBlunder... When should we get Junta together?

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                          • Warham
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 14589

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                            What about American citizens captured as "enemy combatants" in the US?

                            And if the inmates at GITMO don't deserve US legal protections, then shouldn't they be held as "EP(O)Ws?"

                            Why don't we just adopt the Argentine "Dirty War" method?
                            They don't deserve US legal protections. They should be put up in front of a military tribunal for conviction and sentencing.

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                            • Seshmeister
                              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                              • Oct 2003
                              • 35192

                              #15
                              Your government has committed such a terrible human rights abuse on these people that even if a few of them are guilty of a crime then no valid court could convict them of anything.

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