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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    Christians Sue for Right Not to Tolerate Policies

    Christians Sue for Right Not to Tolerate Policies
    Many codes intended to protect gays from harassment are illegal, conservatives argue.
    By Stephanie Simon, Times Staff Writer
    April 10, 2006


    ATLANTA — Ruth Malhotra went to court last month for the right to be intolerant.

    Malhotra says her Christian faith compels her to speak out against homosexuality. But the Georgia Institute of Technology, where she's a senior, bans speech that puts down others because of their sexual orientation.

    Malhotra sees that as an unacceptable infringement on her right to religious expression. So she's demanding that Georgia Tech revoke its tolerance policy.

    With her lawsuit, the 22-year-old student joins a growing campaign to force public schools, state colleges and private workplaces to eliminate policies protecting gays and lesbians from harassment. The religious right aims to overturn a broad range of common tolerance programs: diversity training that promotes acceptance of gays and lesbians, speech codes that ban harsh words against homosexuality, anti-discrimination policies that require college clubs to open their membership to all.

    The Rev. Rick Scarborough, a leading evangelical, frames the movement as the civil rights struggle of the 21st century. "Christians," he said, "are going to have to take a stand for the right to be Christian."

    In that spirit, the Christian Legal Society, an association of judges and lawyers, has formed a national group to challenge tolerance policies in federal court. Several nonprofit law firms — backed by major ministries such as Focus on the Family and Campus Crusade for Christ — already take on such cases for free.

    The legal argument is straightforward: Policies intended to protect gays and lesbians from discrimination end up discriminating against conservative Christians. Evangelicals have been suspended for wearing anti-gay T-shirts to high school, fired for denouncing Gay Pride Month at work, reprimanded for refusing to attend diversity training. When they protest tolerance codes, they're labeled intolerant.

    A recent survey by the Anti-Defamation League found that 64% of American adults — including 80% of evangelical Christians — agreed with the statement "Religion is under attack in this country."

    "The message is, you're free to worship as you like, but don't you dare talk about it outside the four walls of your church," said Stephen Crampton, chief counsel for the American Family Assn. Center for Law and Policy, which represents Christians who feel harassed.

    Critics dismiss such talk as a right-wing fundraising ploy. "They're trying to develop a persecution complex," said Jeremy Gunn, director of the American Civil Liberties Union's Program on Freedom of Religion and Belief.

    Others fear the banner of religious liberty could be used to justify all manner of harassment.

    "What if a person felt their religious view was that African Americans shouldn't mingle with Caucasians, or that women shouldn't work?" asked Jon Davidson, legal director of the gay rights group Lambda Legal.

    Christian activist Gregory S. Baylor responds to such criticism angrily. He says he supports policies that protect people from discrimination based on race and gender. But he draws a distinction that infuriates gay rights activists when he argues that sexual orientation is different — a lifestyle choice, not an inborn trait.

    By equating homosexuality with race, Baylor said, tolerance policies put conservative evangelicals in the same category as racists. He predicts the government will one day revoke the tax-exempt status of churches that preach homosexuality is sinful or that refuse to hire gays and lesbians.

    "Think how marginalized racists are," said Baylor, who directs the Christian Legal Society's Center for Law and Religious Freedom. "If we don't address this now, it will only get worse."

    Christians are fighting back in a case involving Every Nation Campus Ministries at California State University. Student members of the ministry on the Long Beach and San Diego campuses say their mission is to model a virtuous lifestyle for their peers. They will not accept as members gays, lesbians or anyone who considers homosexuality "a natural part of God's created order."

    Legal analysts agree that the ministry, as a private organization, has every right to exclude gays; the Supreme Court affirmed that principle in a case involving the Boy Scouts in 2000. At issue is whether the university must grant official recognition to a student group that discriminates.

    The students say denying them recognition — and its attendant benefits, such as funding — violates their free-speech rights and discriminates against their conservative theology. Christian groups at public colleges in other states have sued using similar arguments. Several of those lawsuits were settled out of court, with the groups prevailing.

    In California, however, the university may have a strong defense in court. The California Supreme Court recently ruled that the city of Berkeley was justified in denying subsidies to the Boy Scouts because of that group's exclusionary policies. Eddie L. Washington, the lawyer representing Cal State, argues the same standard should apply to the university.

    "We're certainly not going to fund discrimination," Washington said.

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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58783

    #2
    If you want to live in a theocracy, move to Iraq.
    Eat Us And Smile

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    • Mr Grimsdale
      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
      • Jan 2004
      • 9485

      #3
      Eugenics anyone?
      Originally posted by flappo
      i'm sure grimsdale's on drugs

      Originally posted by Cato
      translating your Japanese.


      "Master Cato is...I order, it's yours. don't ask me to do gay material for the life of me because you kick my bat."

      omae baka dana?

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      • Mr Grimsdale
        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
        • Jan 2004
        • 9485

        #4
        I'm sure Ken Alibek could help the government with that.
        Originally posted by flappo
        i'm sure grimsdale's on drugs

        Originally posted by Cato
        translating your Japanese.


        "Master Cato is...I order, it's yours. don't ask me to do gay material for the life of me because you kick my bat."

        omae baka dana?

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        • Guitar Shark
          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
          • Jan 2004
          • 7579

          #5
          Re: Christians Sue for Right Not to Tolerate Policies

          Originally posted by BigBadBrian
          With her lawsuit, the 22-year-old student joins a growing campaign to force public schools, state colleges and private workplaces to eliminate policies protecting gays and lesbians from harassment.
          Such loving people, those Christians
          ROTH ARMY MILITIA


          Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
          Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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          • jhale667
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 20929

            #6
            Oh, geez....poor persecuted Christians. Give me a fucking break.

            Demanding the 'right' to be intolerant....fuck off. Next the KKK will sue for the 'right' to be ignorant bigots.
            Originally posted by conmee
            If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

            That is all.

            Icon.
            Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
            I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


            Originally posted by Isaac R.
            Then it's really true??:eek:

            The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

            OMFG...who in their right mind...???
            Originally posted by eddie78
            I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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            • knuckleboner
              Crazy Ass Mofo
              • Jan 2004
              • 2927

              #7
              Re: Christians Sue for Right Not to Tolerate Policies

              Originally posted by BigBadBrian
              By Stephanie Simon, Times Staff Writer
              April 10, 2006


              But he draws a distinction that infuriates gay rights activists when he argues that sexual orientation is different — a lifestyle choice, not an inborn trait.


              great. then presumably, he's also against any university passing a code that prohibits muslims from demonizing Christianity. you know, since being a Christian is a lifestyle choice...

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              • Spc. Graner
                Roadie
                • Jan 2005
                • 115

                #8
                Praise the Lord.

                Down with secularism.

                Every knee shal bow!
                You have never heard a man scream until you have held a lighter to his balls. Don't forget to light the lighter, dummy.
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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49205

                  #9
                  Shouldn't they be sinking witches in lakes and stuff?

                  Oh wait, now they have gays and liberated women to serve as the unifying little "Satans" & witches to focus and project all of their fear and hatred on, and prevent actual thought and progression. That way, so-called FundaMENTALS can build on their power by feigning persecution, which is what it's all really about: power and cuntrol of people...

                  And acting like a martyr every thirty seconds...
                  Last edited by Nickdfresh; 04-11-2006, 09:41 PM.

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                  • rustoffa
                    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 8959

                    #10
                    Ha! That's gonna go over like a lead balloon @ The North Avenue Trade School. A gang of lesbo chemical engineers-in-waiting 'ell probably do a late night nullo experiment on her!

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                    • LoungeMachine
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 32576

                      #11
                      Jesus is rolling over in his grave..........
                      Originally posted by Kristy
                      Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                      Originally posted by cadaverdog
                      I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                      • Jesus Christ
                        Veteran
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 2428

                        #12
                        Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                        Jesus is rolling over in his grave..........
                        No, I'm just puking My Holy guts out right here in Heaven.

                        These deluded fools do not follow My teachings

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                        • LoungeMachine
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 32576

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jesus Christ
                          No, I'm just puking My Holy guts out right here in Heaven.

                          These deluded fools do not follow My teachings

                          Your soul is.

                          Your human remains are still here somewhere

                          dust to dust and all that

                          Originally posted by Kristy
                          Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                          Originally posted by cadaverdog
                          I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                          • Hardrock69
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Feb 2005
                            • 21888

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jhale667
                            Oh, geez....poor persecuted Christians. Give me a fucking break.

                            Demanding the 'right' to be intolerant....fuck off. Next the KKK will sue for the 'right' to be ignorant bigots.
                            In that particular case, what is the difference between Christians and the KKK doing that?

                            KKK is inherently intolerent & bigoted...this woman is just suing to be ALLOWED to be the same...meaning she already is, she just wants to force the state of Georgia to make it legal to be an intolerant bigoted asshole. And she is slandering all Christians who are NOT bigoted by dragging the Christian religion into it.



                            What a fucking cunt...
                            Last edited by Hardrock69; 04-12-2006, 11:31 AM.

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                            • Hardrock69
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 21888

                              #15
                              Jesus - The Holy Pile Of Bones....

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