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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    The war crime they've been waiting for?

    The war crime they've been waiting for?
    Jun 2, 2006
    by Mona Charen


    No one yet knows what happened in Haditha, Iraq, last November. There are accounts -- unconfirmed -- of a massacre perpetrated by a unit of enraged Marines against unarmed civilians. Unless I miss my guess, this is about to become the biggest story in the world.

    Consider that Abu Ghraib, which did not involve killing or torture (though it did include extreme humiliation) became the American and world press's favorite topic for weeks on end, though far more grotesque acts were being perpetrated daily by the jihadists in Iraq and elsewhere. In the period since then, the American press has focused almost exclusively on stories from Iraq that depict the situation as hopeless and the role of Americans as counterproductive.

    Even before we know anything with certainty about Haditha, the Chattanooga Times Free Press has let fly with this bit of instant sociology: "If the vicious sectarian strife that is ripping Iraq apart holds no apparent end and is now sufficient to prompt a spree of unprovoked killings of innocents by American troops, Americans reasonably may wonder whether, as some generals already believe, this nation is now doing more harm than good by remaining in Iraq."


    Rep. Jack Murtha, D-Pa., every liberal's favorite ex-Marine since the day he advised pulling out of Iraq, called a press conference to accuse the Marines of murder. "[T]here was no firefight, there was no IED that killed these innocent people. Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and killed innocent civilians in cold blood."

    The Boston Globe, like countless other outlets I checked on Nexis.com, has rushed to dust off Vietnam analogies: "The My Lai massacre, covered up for more than a year, symbolized the moral bankruptcy of the Vietnam War. Senators need to determine whether the Haditha killings were a shameful anomaly, or, three years into the occupation, a manifestation of a deep coarsening in the US force." Three guesses which option the Globe thinks is true?

    Actually, My Lai was not evidence of the moral bankruptcy of the Vietnam War. It was exactly what America-haters here and abroad claimed it was not -- an aberration. It is endlessly frustrating to see those who were so wrong about the Cold War, starting with Vietnam, invoke the memory of that conflict to stand for the opposite of what it should. The principal "lesson" of Vietnam that our enemies learned was that America could be driven from the battlefield by psychological warfare aimed at the home front. They always flee, teaches Osama bin Laden. The lessons our liberal professors and editorialists learned was that the war was immoral. And no amount of experience -- a million boat people, genocide in neighboring Cambodia, the collapse of communism nearly everywhere -- has been sufficient to alter their view.

    There are any number of liberal congressmen, commentators and opinion leaders who, like their European counterparts, actively wish America to fail in Iraq because it will mean the failure of the hated Bush presidency. Their reporting from Iraq has therefore been one-sided and defeatist from the beginning. (In fact, the defeatism preceded the Iraq War and was evident in the early days of the Afghanistan campaign as well when The New York Times famously declared the conflict a "quagmire" after only a few days of fighting.)

    Amir Taheri, writing in the June issue of Commentary magazine, offers a catalogue of progress in Iraq that is almost impossible to find in our principal news outlets. For example, he notes that there have been no queues of refugees streaming out of Iraq. To the contrary, 1.2 million have returned home since Saddam's ouster. Muslim pilgrims are flocking to the holy sites in Karbala and Najaf. The Iraqi dinar, which had been in free fall during the final period of Saddam's misrule, has risen by 17 percent against the Kuwaiti dinar and 23 percent against the Iranian rial. Iraq's GDP has rebounded since the invasion, and inflation has dropped from 70 percent to 25.4 percent.

    Yes, violence is extreme, particularly in certain areas of the country. But this does not mean that democracy is failing to take root. Seventy percent of eligible Iraqis voted in the past three years. Radio stations, newspapers and Internet blogs have proliferated. The first free trade unions in the Arab world have begun in Iraq.

    But don't expect to hear about those things. Our press will doubtless be too busy luxuriating in Haditha.


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  • jcook11
    Commando
    • Sep 2004
    • 1281

    #2
    FORD LOUNGE SESH AND HR69 all know what happened just ask them.

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    • ELVIS
      Banned
      • Dec 2003
      • 44120

      #3
      What is an immoral war ??

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      • jcook11
        Commando
        • Sep 2004
        • 1281

        #4
        Originally posted by ELVIS
        What is an immoral war ??
        Any one involving a republican president.

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 58783

          #5
          Maybe that Likudist CUNT Mona Sharon (yes that's how her name is really spelled) would like to clean the 8 year old girl's brains off the boots of the soldier who tried in vain to rescue her and is now scarred mentally for life.
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

          Justice Democrats


          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • ODShowtime
            ROCKSTAR

            • Jun 2004
            • 5812

            #6
            So this is what we're all subjected to now. 6 fucking threads in a row? geeze
            gnaw on it

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            • DEMON CUNT
              Crazy Ass Mofo
              • Nov 2004
              • 3242

              #7
              Banned 01/09/09 | Avatar | Aiken | Spammy | Extreme | Pump | Regular | The View | Toot

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              • DEMON CUNT
                Crazy Ass Mofo
                • Nov 2004
                • 3242

                #8


                What if this was your child?
                Banned 01/09/09 | Avatar | Aiken | Spammy | Extreme | Pump | Regular | The View | Toot

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                • ELVIS
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 44120

                  #9
                  It would be dead...

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                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 58783

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ELVIS
                    It would be dead...
                    And what would you do about it?
                    Eat Us And Smile

                    Cenk For America 2024!!

                    Justice Democrats


                    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                    • jcook11
                      Commando
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 1281

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DEMON CUNT


                      What if this was your child?
                      "If you don't stop picking that, it will never heal"

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                      • Seshmeister
                        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                        • Oct 2003
                        • 35192

                        #12
                        Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                        The war crime they've been waiting for?
                        Jun 2, 2006
                        by Mona Charen


                        No one yet knows what happened in Haditha, Iraq, last November. There are accounts -- unconfirmed -- of a massacre perpetrated by a unit of enraged Marines against unarmed civilians. Unless I miss my guess, this is about to become the biggest story in the world.

                        Consider that Abu Ghraib, which did not involve killing or torture (though it did include extreme humiliation) became the American and world press's favorite topic for weeks on end, though far more grotesque acts were being perpetrated daily by the jihadists in Iraq and elsewhere. In the period since then, the American press has focused almost exclusively on stories from Iraq that depict the situation as hopeless and the role of Americans as counterproductive.

                        Even before we know anything with certainty about Haditha, the Chattanooga Times Free Press has let fly with this bit of instant sociology: "If the vicious sectarian strife that is ripping Iraq apart holds no apparent end and is now sufficient to prompt a spree of unprovoked killings of innocents by American troops, Americans reasonably may wonder whether, as some generals already believe, this nation is now doing more harm than good by remaining in Iraq."


                        Rep. Jack Murtha, D-Pa., every liberal's favorite ex-Marine since the day he advised pulling out of Iraq, called a press conference to accuse the Marines of murder. "[T]here was no firefight, there was no IED that killed these innocent people. Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and killed innocent civilians in cold blood."

                        The Boston Globe, like countless other outlets I checked on Nexis.com, has rushed to dust off Vietnam analogies: "The My Lai massacre, covered up for more than a year, symbolized the moral bankruptcy of the Vietnam War. Senators need to determine whether the Haditha killings were a shameful anomaly, or, three years into the occupation, a manifestation of a deep coarsening in the US force." Three guesses which option the Globe thinks is true?

                        Actually, My Lai was not evidence of the moral bankruptcy of the Vietnam War. It was exactly what America-haters here and abroad claimed it was not -- an aberration. It is endlessly frustrating to see those who were so wrong about the Cold War, starting with Vietnam, invoke the memory of that conflict to stand for the opposite of what it should. The principal "lesson" of Vietnam that our enemies learned was that America could be driven from the battlefield by psychological warfare aimed at the home front. They always flee, teaches Osama bin Laden. The lessons our liberal professors and editorialists learned was that the war was immoral. And no amount of experience -- a million boat people, genocide in neighboring Cambodia, the collapse of communism nearly everywhere -- has been sufficient to alter their view.

                        There are any number of liberal congressmen, commentators and opinion leaders who, like their European counterparts, actively wish America to fail in Iraq because it will mean the failure of the hated Bush presidency. Their reporting from Iraq has therefore been one-sided and defeatist from the beginning. (In fact, the defeatism preceded the Iraq War and was evident in the early days of the Afghanistan campaign as well when The New York Times famously declared the conflict a "quagmire" after only a few days of fighting.)

                        Amir Taheri, writing in the June issue of Commentary magazine, offers a catalogue of progress in Iraq that is almost impossible to find in our principal news outlets. For example, he notes that there have been no queues of refugees streaming out of Iraq. To the contrary, 1.2 million have returned home since Saddam's ouster. Muslim pilgrims are flocking to the holy sites in Karbala and Najaf. The Iraqi dinar, which had been in free fall during the final period of Saddam's misrule, has risen by 17 percent against the Kuwaiti dinar and 23 percent against the Iranian rial. Iraq's GDP has rebounded since the invasion, and inflation has dropped from 70 percent to 25.4 percent.

                        Yes, violence is extreme, particularly in certain areas of the country. But this does not mean that democracy is failing to take root. Seventy percent of eligible Iraqis voted in the past three years. Radio stations, newspapers and Internet blogs have proliferated. The first free trade unions in the Arab world have begun in Iraq.

                        But don't expect to hear about those things. Our press will doubtless be too busy luxuriating in Haditha.


                        Link
                        This is just about the most stupid thing I have ever read.

                        It's 1/10th as sensible as your average Jesterstar thread.

                        There is nothing else to say, it's not something you can argue with because it is just utter nonsence.

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                        • Keef
                          Roadie
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 101

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ELVIS
                          It would be dead...
                          You are such a son of a bitch to say something like that. Fuck you and anyone like you.

                          Stop breathing my air.

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                          • ELVIS
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 44120

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Keef
                            You are such a son of a bitch to say something like that. Fuck you and anyone like you.

                            Fuck you and your momma...

                            If it were her, she would be dead too...

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                            • jcook11
                              Commando
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 1281

                              #15
                              Originally posted by DEMON CUNT


                              What if this was your child?
                              That will probably leave a nasty scar

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