HEAVIEST song of all time.

[binnie]

Don't know if you've had this thread before, I checked through and couldn't find it.

What is the most bowl crushingly heavy song of all time?


Thoughts please......

[Mr. Vengeance]

Kind of depends on what your definition of heavy is. The heaviest song I can think of in terms of heavy, doom laden, pounding sound is maybe Black Sabbath, by of course, Black Sabbath.

[bueno bob]

My personal top ten?

They're all by Electric Wizard:

01. Weird Tales
02. Master of Alchemy
03. Priestess of Mars
04. Devil's Bride
05. Return Trip
06. Wizard in Black
07. Burnout
08. Dopethrone
09. Chrono.naut
10. Solarian 13

And I'm a specialist in all things doom... :)

[EAT MY ASSHOLE]

Kansas, "Blowing In the Wind".

Very deep. Heavy.

[binnie]

LOL!

[Mr Badguy]

Pink Floyd "Dogs"

Heavy in an intense way.

[binnie]

Originally posted by bueno bob
My personal top ten?

They're all by Electric Wizard:

01. Weird Tales
02. Master of Alchemy
03. Priestess of Mars
04. Devil's Bride
05. Return Trip
06. Wizard in Black
07. Burnout
08. Dopethrone
09. Chrono.naut
10. Solarian 13

And I'm a specialist in all things doom... :)


I was waiting for someone to bring them up, didn't think it'd happen till mch later down the line.


But Well done Bob, good call!

[binnie]

It does all depend on your definition of HEAVY, which is subjective...

For me, it'd probably be something by Slayer,

Angel of Death

War Ensemble

Chemical Warfare

All spring to mind.....

[binnie]

Crowbar are also ultra-heavy on the Sabbath scale,

I would say "Planets Collide" wins the titles from them...

[Coyote]

Can't get heavier than Pantera's "Vulgar Display Of Power"...

"A New Level", to be exact.

[WACF]

Behemoth - Conquer All...perhaps not the heaviest but damn heavy.

[The_KiD]

When I think of Heavy, Pantera is what I wanna hear... Cowboys from Hell kicks serious fuckin ass....

KiD

[binnie]

That's two for Pantera.....

[binnie]

Personally, the song that I think of for HEAVY

Is

THE THING THAT SHOULD NOT BE

Admitedly, 80's production hides the heaviness, but if you catch live footage....fuck me....

[Coyote]

Originally posted by binnie
That's two for Pantera.....

Make it three: "Drag The Waters"

[Anonymous]

Avantasia's The Final Sacrifice. Heavy, fast, intense and has David DeFeis on vocals.

Cheers! :bottle:

[knerken]

Mayhem - Chainsaw Gutsfuck. Killer name for a tune!
It's not like the noisy black splattermetal like Mayhem normally is. It's just dark and slow and deep and HEAVY!

[sadaist]

Ministry - New World Order
Slayer - Angel of Death

[Mr. Vengeance]

Don't forget Venom, At War With Satan

[The_KiD]

Originally posted by sadaist
Ministry - New World Order
Slayer - Angel of Death

Very nice mentions..

KiD

[rustoffa]

There's that quote from Rollins', where he goes, "every time we wanted to hear something HEAVY, we'd pick up the Van Halen record...it weighed a ton."

He was referring to the Black Flag days...it's interesting how alot of the punk bands dived into the "heavy", or "metal" arena.

I figured I'd throw a few examples of that out, as there's no way of defining the heaviest song. These are just albums.

Black Flag: In My Head

The Plasmatics: New Hope For The Wretched

GBH: Midnight Madness And Beyond

[Figs]

Unholy by Kiss comes to mind....

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by chan_bkny
That was from VH1's 100 Greatest Hard Rock Artists of All Time. Rollins has said that he's "well versed in Rothology."

Kewl. What's your thoughts on "The process of weeding out?"

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by chan_bkny
Yes, he said that on VH1's 100 Greatest Hard Rock Artists of All Time.

Kewl. What's your thoughts on Greg Ginn being the mastermind behind Black Flag?

[PumpedUpMidget]

Anything by Prong or Ministry

[CVH_4ever]

Dont forget Children Of Bodom! They have some pretty heavy shit

[binnie]

Machine Head - Davidian!

[bueno bob]

Electric Wizard is still heavier, doomier and has a bigger wall of sonic eardrum ruptures waiting to happen than anything else mentioned so far.

TRUST ME!

:)

[mako_kimura]

Here's a few songs that I think are the heaviest(No particular order):

1. Slayer-Raining Blood
2. Pantera-Yesterday Don't Mean Shit
3. Children Of Bodom-In Your Face
4. Anthrax-Caught In A Mosh
5. Black Label Society-Suicide Messiah
6. Nickelback-Side Of A Bullet (it's a Dimebag tribute, has his solos)
7. Bullet For My Valentine-4 Words To Choke Upon
8. Slipknot-The Heretic Anthem
9. Disturbed-Stricken

[rustoffa]

Originally posted by chan_bkny How 'bout you? Thoughts on Process or Family Man?

First off, I'd take the high road regarding Rollins ruining Black Flag. Make no mistake, it WAS Ginn's band. "Process" was Ginn's record...way ahead of it's time. Goes without saying that an album (EP) of complex instrumentation would hack off the SO CAL hardcore collective. Now THAT is a PUNK move.

Family Man, prior to that, had basically the same effect. Ginn's a smart guy, and I'm sure he appreciated Rollins' penchant for social commentary, so he let him have half the album, then blew him the fuck off of it doubling on Bass and Geetar.

[nosuchluck]

Nile - Barra Edinazu
Meshuggah - War

[binnie]

Originally posted by nosuchluck
Nile - Barra Edinazu
Meshuggah - War

I was wondering how long it'd be till someone brought Meshuggah!

It's a different sort of heavy to the "Sabbath Heavy" that most of us have gone with so far isn't it?

Some might say more brutal than heavy, but I suppose it's all in the definition....

Good call tho'

[nosuchluck]

Meshuggah is the shit - yeah, brutal is more apt..

[binnie]

Originally posted by nosuchluck
Meshuggah is the shit - yeah, brutal is more apt..

I agree, been into them for many years.

Not a band you can just listen too all the time, due to the abseence of melody, but when you ARE in the mood, you realise that there is NO-ONE who sounds like them.

HEAVY is a subjective term, it could certianly be applied.

But I knew it was only a matter of time before they cropped up!

All of their albums are exceptional but CHAOSPHERE is in a different league!

[Dave's Bitch]

with my defenition of a HEAVY song i would have to say anything of Reek of Putrefacation by Carcass

[Loons The Great]

Too Poor To Die--Louisiana Red

Last night I had a dream
I dream I died
The undertaker came
To carry me for the ride
I couldn't afford a coffin
Embalmin' kinda high
I jumped off my death bed
Cause I too poor to die
I's in trouble
And I'll tell you the reason why
I'm just too poor people
I'm too poor to go lay down and die

I dream at the cemetery
I couldn't afford enough
To pay the gravediggers
To cover me up
It cost a lot of money
Cause they was union men
I guess before I die
I better think again
I'm in trouble
And I'll tell you the reason why
I'm just too poor people
I'm too poor to go lay down and die

Dream I met the devil
He is waitin' at the gate
Say "come on in Red
You ain't a minute late"
Said he lead me to his kingdom
Lead me by my arm
But he wouldn't move my body
Less I grease his palm
I's in trouble
And I'll tell you the reason why
I'm just too poor people
I'm too poor to go lay down and die

[Jahuli]

MANOWAR! MANOWAR!

[mako_kimura]

A few more to add to my list (mostly COB and Shadows Fall):

1. Shadows Fall-In Effigy (Off the new album, pretty good)
2. Children of Bodom-Are You Dead Yet?
3. Disturbed-10,000 Fists
4. Children of Bodom-We're Not Gonna Fall

[Anonymous]

Originally posted by Jahuli
MANOWAR! MANOWAR!

BITCHIN'! BITCHIN'!

Manowar RULES!

5 stars,

Cheers! :bottle:

[Ozzy Fudd]

Originally posted by Mr. Vengeance
Kind of depends on what your definition of heavy is. The heaviest song I can think of in terms of heavy, doom laden, pounding sound is maybe Black Sabbath, by of course, Black Sabbath.
I knew i would find this thread. my favorite one by black Sabbath is this one. into the VOID. this is my old Guitar player turned bass players new band all they are lookin for is a singer. God i love YouTube. :D

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[Jimmy Jingles]

I think binnie mentioned this earlier, but "The Thing That Should Not Be" by Metallica is pretty fucking brutal.



And anything by Meshuggah...8-string guitars sound like fucking death.

[binnie]

Originally posted by Jimmy Jingles
I think binnie mentioned this earlier, but "The Thing That Should Not Be" by Metallica is pretty fucking brutal.



And anything by Meshuggah...8-string guitars sound like fucking death.

Yep, there is a live version of "The Thing That Should Not Be" on the Bside of the European single version of The Memory Remains. It was recorded at a tiny gig Metallica did to promote Reload at London's ministry of Sound in 1997. That live version is the heaviest thing i have ever heard. Period.

As for Meshuggah, you are spot on. Fuckin Brutal indeed! I think "Chaosphere" in an underrated modern classic album.

Apparently some guy did a doctoral thesis titles "The Theory of the Song By Meshuggah" - thats an obsessive fan.

[Jimmy Jingles]

Originally posted by binnie
Yep, there is a live version of "The Thing That Should Not Be" on the Bside of the European single version of The Memory Remains. It was recorded at a tiny gig Metallica did to promote Reload at London's ministry of Sound in 1997. That live version is the heaviest thing i have ever heard. Period.


I need to listen to that...sounds cool indeed!

I have also heard some early demo's of "Sad But True" when they played it a lot slower than they do live, and it was pretty fucking ball rocking as well.

[sadaist]

Originally posted by Jimmy Jingles
I think binnie mentioned this earlier, but "The Thing That Should Not Be" by Metallica is pretty fucking brutal.


That has to be one of the FATTEST songs ever. Not so much heavy like Slayer or Ministry, just FAT. Metallica was great at those types of songs.

[Jimmy Jingles]

"Was" being the key word...

[Jimmy Jingles]

Metallica - The Thing That Should Not Be - From 1989's 'Damage Justice' Tour in Seattle.


Ah the good ole days...



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[sadaist]

Originally posted by Jimmy Jingles
"Was" being the key word...

Yep. I was careful with my terminology :-)

[Tiki-Tom]

*King of Kings*
The band was on Geffen Records.
Only put out one disc in 91 but it was fucking heavy.
Every last song on the disc was Fucking Heavy!!!

[binnie]

I'll have to check out the King of Kings, sounds cool....

[Tiki-Tom]

It's real hard to find but well worth it. Let me know if ya can't find it and still wanna check it out. Ebay may have a copy.

One i got on a whim and became an alltime fave of mine.
think of Sabbath meets Kings X with hints of Cream and some freeform jazz ta boot .

A very different sounding band for sure.

[binnie]

Cheers, thanks for the recomendation!

[Tiki-Tom]

:D You bet :cool:

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by binnie
... What is the most bowl crushingly heavy song of all time?


Thoughts please......


"Momma's Gotta Die Tonight" from Body Count (for the lyrics).

When I really want to release the pressure and bang my head on the wall...
I listen to "You Can't Bring Me Down" from Suicidal Tendencies... :killer:

[MERRYKISSMASS2U]

The intro to this song is just awesome....


Bestow upon me knowledge
Wizard - all knowing all wise
I want to rule this kingdom
Make sweet the breeze now defiled
Dethrone the evil prince's iron fists
In velvet gloves of sin
Parade the grey robed monks
The vestal virgins,wheel the wyvern's in
Let the ceremony
consecrate the marriage
Let me be the protege
Of five magics
Give me alchemy
Wizardry
Sorcery
Thermatology
Electricity
Magic if you please
Master all of these
Bring him to his knees
I master five magics
Possessed with hellish torment
I master magics "5"
Hunting the abyss lord
Only one will stay alive
He who lives by the sword
Will surely also die
He who lives in sin
Will surely live the lie

[blonddgirl777]

Ho B.T.W... about Flotsam & Jetsam;

I have absolutely no memory (I was a stoner, then L.O.L.) but,
I was told last night that we had bought one of their albums, about 12 years ago and re-sold it immediately...
Apparently, for it not being heavy enough!

I will give it another try though...

[Tiki-Tom]

Can't decide between:

Slayer-Seasons in the Abyss
C.O.C.- Paranoid Opioid
Morbid Angel-God of Emptiness
Pantera- Slaughtered, Living Through Me, or By Demons be Driven

[MERRYKISSMASS2U]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
Ho B.T.W... about Flotsam & Jetsam;

I have absolutely no memory (I was a stoner, then L.O.L.) but,
I was told last night that we had bought one of their albums, about 12 years ago and re-sold it immediately...
Apparently, for it not being heavy enough!

I will give it another try though...

Ok... email me at diamonddavidleeroth@gmail.com to get shit set up. If you don't want to use beamfile, we could always use Azereus.

[MERRYKISSMASS2U]

That's like dismissing Van Halen after hearing Diver Down, or dismissing Megadeth after hearing Risk.

Flotsam and Jetsam rule. (Especially Doomsday for the Deceiver).

[mako_kimura]

If I remember correctly, F and J did a strange cover of Elton John's "Saturday Night's Alright For Fighting"

[yah]

One of my older preferences for a Heavy song is AFTER FOREVER by Black Sabbath.

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by MERRYKISSMASS2U
That's like dismissing Van Halen after hearing Diver Down, or dismissing Megadeth after hearing Risk.

Flotsam and Jetsam rule. (Especially Doomsday for the Deceiver).

Yep!
I tend to be a little fast on the trigger, when judging music...

I will figure out the F. & J. and give it another try.

[danielc]

Jesus Saves by Slayer

Battery by Metallica

Hostile by Pantera

...just off top of my head.

[danielc]

Some pretty heavy VH songs:

Atomic Punk

DOA

[binnie]

Originally posted by danielc
Jesus Saves by Slayer



The opening riff on that is heavy as fuck - saw em do it live, unbeleivably heavy.....

[sadaist]

Originally posted by danielc
Some pretty heavy VH songs:

Atomic Punk

DOA


I'm On Fiiiiiiirrrrreee!!!!!!! Fiiiiiiirrrrreee!!!!!!!

[MERRYKISSMASS2U]

Originally posted by sadaist
On Fire

Outta Love Again

[fe_lung]

NIN's Reptile is pretty heavy

[danielc]

The opening riff on that is heavy as fuck - saw em do it live, unbeleivably heavy.....

I actually learned that song on guitar. It's extremely difficult to play. As a matter of fact I can't even play it at real speed. I could never learn the solos either. I can't believe how fast that band plays. They're freaks of nature.

[mako_kimura]

Here's one I tried out just for the hell of it:

Nile-Cast Down The Heretic (Who would've thought four guys from South Carolina would be so obsessed with all things Egyptian?)

[binnie]

Originally posted by danielc
I can't believe how fast that band plays. They're freaks of nature.

Agreed. Slayer don't get enough credit as musicians....

[Golden AWe]

Black Sabbath, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Into The void, Symptom Of The Universe by Black Sabbath...

Refuse/resist by Sepultura...

[binnie]

Originally posted by Golden AWe


Refuse/resist by Sepultura...

Indeed, that riff just pummels away throughout the song. "Chaos AD" is an exceptional record......

[Golden AWe]

Originally posted by binnie
Indeed, that riff just pummels away throughout the song. "Chaos AD" is an exceptional record......

IMO it's easily their best album...very good stuff from beginning to the end...

[MAPRamone]

Originally posted by Golden AWe
IMO it's easily their best album...very good stuff from beginning to the end...
Biotech Is Godzilla is the only song i don't dig that much although i don't hate it. Rest of the album is great! It's real heavy, cookie monster vocals and all, but it's still very melodic. Most bands playing in that style don't manage that.

[sadaist]

Originally posted by binnie
Agreed. Slayer don't get enough credit as musicians....

To be honest, I have never like Slayer solos. They seem sloppy and hurt my ears most of the time. They don't flow with the riff or vibe of the song. But the main riffs of their songs are incredible. Raining Blood sounds like death marching music and is the ultimate slam pit song. Slayer pits can be downright violence to music. Once I got to the age where things started to hurt for a few days rather than a few hours, I retired myself from the mosh. I still have my steel toed Dr. Martin boots with plenty of battle wounds on them.

[binnie]

Originally posted by sadaist
To be honest, I have never like Slayer solos. They seem sloppy and hurt my ears most of the time. They don't flow with the riff or vibe of the song. But the main riffs of their songs are incredible. Raining Blood sounds like death marching music and is the ultimate slam pit song. Slayer pits can be downright violence to music. Once I got to the age where things started to hurt for a few days rather than a few hours, I retired myself from the mosh. I still have my steel toed Dr. Martin boots with plenty of battle wounds on them.

Kerry King has pretty much played the same solo for 20 years! True, they ain't in Megadeth league of musicianship.

What I meant was that not that many band can play so fast, with so many times changes, and still sound tighter than hell. I was talking about the musicianship of the band as a whole, sorry I should have clarified.

[JumpinJack]

Originally posted by Golden AWe
Black Sabbath, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Into The void, Symptom Of The Universe by Black Sabbath...

Refuse/resist by Sepultura...

It's amazing how you can go back to all the vintage Sabbath stuff and it's still sounding heavy! Even by today's standards. The opening riff to "War Pigs" is stunningly heavy, considering the song was recorded 30+ years ago...

[binnie]

It's true. About 5 years ago on a Sabath tribute album, Robb Flyn of Machine Head said that they had to do something inventive with their cover of "Hole in the Sky" because it was impossible to out heavy Sabbath...

[Vinnie Velvet]

Priest - Painkiller.

[binnie]

Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
Priest - Painkiller.

Good call, although I think "Metal Gods" is the heavist thing they have done, you know that bit just before the chorus where the soldiers march in the background.....

Fuckin metal!

[danielc]

they ain't in Megadeth league of musicianship

I don't know about that.

[mako_kimura]

I heard this one song called "Blood of The Scribe" by Lamb of God, that was some heavy shit....it was kinda frightening

[danielc]

I have never like Slayer solos. They seem sloppy and hurt my ears most of the time. They don't flow with the riff or vibe of the song.

I agree. As a matter of fact every time I listen to "Angel of Death" and it gets to the solo I press the "next" button on my cd player. BTW that song is pretty heavy too.

[MERRYKISSMASS2U]

Originally posted by danielc
I don't know about that.

They surely aren't. Megadeth is the world's state of the art speed metal band, period.


Originally posted by danielc
I agree. As a matter of fact every time I listen to "Angel of Death" and it gets to the solo I press the "next" button on my cd player. BTW that song is pretty heavy too.

Monarch to the kingdom of the dead! That song is awesome.

[danielc]

originally posted by MERRYKISSMASS2U
Megadeth is the world's state of the art speed metal band, period

Well I know that Megadeth definitely has a lot of musicianship. I saw them open for Motley Crue back in '01. Of course musicianship wise they blew Motley off the stage. They were very tight and sounded great. Peace Sells is probably my favorite Megadeth album. I learned some of "Conjuring" and it's pretty heavy stuff. As far as speed goes I don't know if there's anybody that can play as fast as Slayer. But as far as other aspects of musicianship you're probably right. I also like their "Youthanasia" album.