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marchin2mars
04-21-2004, 05:55 PM
You people hear are the most pathetic people I believe I have ever come across during my 7 year Internet History. You wish Death on People because of being a fan of someone you don't like. You bad mouth and insult people you do not know because they are a fan of a singer you dont like.................Fuck'n Pathetic

Am I a DLR Era VH fan....absolutely.
Am I a "Van Hagar" era fan...absolutely

Which Era do I prefer....either, they were both great and successful

Which singer do I prefer........Sammy Hagar and I'll tell ya why


I was NEVER a "DIEHARD" Van Halen Fan. I like VH, both Eras, had a few CDs but never seen them in concert.
During the Sam and Dave Tour, me and my buddy decided to Go because he was a HUGE DLR fan, so i was like ok, we'll chill out and relax and drink while listening to Sammy, and then we'll Tear the Fuckin place apart with Dave................so I thought.

Dave come out first and the place went crazy....for about the first song. By the middle of the second song, everyone was pretty much sitting down. We sat there and just kinda waited for DLR to kick it in, but it never happend. After the set was done, we were all like what the fuck was that. My friend was like bumbed out and embarrassed because he kept Pumping me up about Dave because I had never seen him live. So I'm like, Dude don't worry about it, people age, this isnt the 80's anymore....Lets just go get us a beer kick back and listen to Sammy then we'll hit the titty bar on the way home.

Well Sammy comes out and Tears the place apart, fuck'n absolutely Rocked the place. Everyone was on the feet the entire show, Sammy put on the ultimate show. I was totally shocked because I thought it was going to be the other way around. Sam buried Dave and this is coming from a guy who went to the show as Neutral....Didnt care either way.

After the show, i begin looking into Hagar's music more, since he left VH, and become a Sammy Hagar Fan. So yeah I was hoping he would someday re-unite with Van Halen because by Judging by the two performances I thought he would be the better choice, but I in no way ever insulted bashed or wish Death on anyone who was a DLR fan. I come here to read up on what people thought about the Reunion and I see these pathetic posts about sammy and sammy fans

REMEMBER ONE THING...DAVE HAD HIS SHOT , DAVE HAD HIS SHOT TWICE AND HE BLEW IT. IT WASNT SAM'S FAULT, MY FAULT YOUR FAULT, IT WAS DAVE'S FAULT, BECAUSE ITS ALL BOUT DAVE.

DAVE SCREWED ALL OF THE DIE HARD VAN HALEN, DLR ERA FANS. HE SCREWED YOU NOT ANYONE ELSE.

BE PISSED AT DAVE!!!!

DAVE " Sam throws a party, I am the party" Well it looks like everyone is going to Sam's party, while Dave has to play with himself.

Get over it

flappo
04-21-2004, 05:59 PM
..i'll take you on , you spammy hagar sperm sucking douchebag , douchebag , where i heard that afore? ha !

..bit of advice , shithead

..DON'T DISS DA DAVE™

DavidLeeNatra
04-21-2004, 06:03 PM
so...please...feel bashed, insulted and death whished...and just get the fuck outta here...

Dan
04-21-2004, 06:06 PM
We at David Lee Roth army are very sad about what you have to say,so fuck off and get a life

DavidLeeNatra
04-21-2004, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by Dan
We at David Lee Roth army are very sad about what you have to say,so fuck off and get a life

wasn't that a bit harsh...that dude is so sensitive...?

marchin2mars
04-21-2004, 06:10 PM
We at David Lee Roth army are very sad about what you have to say,so fuck off and get a life


LOL....Maybe I'll fuck off with your girlfriend back at the house



isnt that what Dave would say

LOL

DavidLeeNatra
04-21-2004, 06:14 PM
we didn't know if you could stand words like "fuck your girlfriend" ...

marchin2mars
04-21-2004, 06:33 PM
we didn't know if you could stand words like "fuck your girlfriend" ...


why because i said it was pathetic how people on hear insult and wish death on people because they are a fan of a certain singer?

Panamark
04-21-2004, 06:35 PM
Sorry, you have mistaken me for somebody who gives a shit.

DavidLeeNatra
04-21-2004, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by marchin2mars
we didn't know if you could stand words like "fuck your girlfriend" ...


why because i said it was pathetic how people on hear insult and wish death on people because they are a fan of a certain singer?

so...I am proud to be pathetic...and you are a fan of a screeching brigde drone troll...and if you can't stand the heat...get out of the kitchen...

Big Troubles
04-21-2004, 06:42 PM
ooh ooh! I wish certain death on people. I think he's talking about me! LMAO Sperm guzzlin' Spammy fan death list. You are now on it! Congrats! All I need is a night club and a book of matches.

Let me at him!

marchin2mars
04-21-2004, 06:45 PM
so...I am proud to be pathetic...and you are a fan of a screeching brigde drone troll...and if you can't stand the heat...get out of the kitchen...


bubba, i can take anything you can dish out...and yes I am a fan of a "screeching brigde done troll" who will be performing nightly infront of 10,000-20,000 people nightly while Dave is playing to a few hundred people in some Upstairs Lounge of a back alley Casino in Vegas....All is not lost for you, you should be able to get good seats to see Dave, you just have to make the Trek to Vegas

marchin2mars
04-21-2004, 06:46 PM
ooh ooh! I wish certain death on people. I think he's talking about me! LMAO Sperm guzzlin' Spammy fan death list. You are now on it! Congrats! All I need is a night club and a book of matches.



Karma is a bitch my friend

DavidLeeNatra
04-21-2004, 07:03 PM
to be honest...I get tired of whipping your asses...so how about my little "I bet" thread? I also like to see you in spandex...

FORD
04-21-2004, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by marchin2mars



Karma is a bitch my friend

Your mother's name is "Karma"??

Well, that explains a lot then. Mom was a hippie... took a lot of acid when she was pregnant, had a brain damaged sheep for a child.

But that's hardly surprising coming from a guy who named himself after one of the Ched Rocker's lamest songs.

Shouldn't you be off somewhere "finding God in the Universe" or whatever?

Big Troubles
04-21-2004, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by marchin2mars
so...I am proud to be pathetic...and you are a fan of a screeching brigde drone troll...and if you can't stand the heat...get out of the kitchen...


bubba, i can take anything you can dish out...and yes I am a fan of a "screeching brigde done troll" who will be performing nightly infront of 10,000-20,000 people nightly while Dave is playing to a few hundred people in some Upstairs Lounge of a back alley Casino in Vegas....All is not lost for you, you should be able to get good seats to see Dave, you just have to make the Trek to Vegas

You dont understand Roth fans at all do you? We would prefer to see Dave in the upstairs lounge of Vegas, if it means we wont be seated next to one of you...meaning Spermmy fans. We'll take Dave in any form or shape. You take Sammy one way. In front of 10 to 20 000 a night? great. enjoy your milk and cookies and have fun blowing your cash on something they used to be. They are skeletons. Dave sells Dave. I will buy that.

DavidLeeNatra
04-21-2004, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
You dont understand Roth fans at all do you? We would prefer to see Dave in the upstairs lounge of Vegas, if it means we wont be seated next to one of you...meaning Spermmy fans. We'll take Dave in any form or shape. You take Sammy one way. In front of 10 to 20 000 a night? great. enjoy your milk and cookies and have fun blowing your cash on something they used to be. They are skeletons. Dave sells Dave. I will buy that.

amen, brother...

Big Troubles
04-21-2004, 07:09 PM
"Karma is a bitch my friend"

are you speaking from experience? Karma, if I were to believe in it, does not frighten me. The scariest thing Ive seen is Spermmy singing Jump. So Ive been scared already. :D

Big Troubles
04-21-2004, 07:11 PM
and LSD trying to spell. And OneVoice trying to be a man. Oh yeah, and Seenbad trying to be straight. But that's all for scary around here i believe.

marchin2mars
04-21-2004, 07:18 PM
Your mother's name is "Karma"??


Well, that explains a lot then. Mom was a hippie... took a lot of acid when she was pregnant, had a brain damaged sheep for a child.


LOL...Nice touch adding my mother to the thread....thats the best insult you can come up with? C'mon...your a Rothtard, you should be the master of come backs and quips


You dont understand Roth fans at all do you? We would prefer to see Dave in the upstairs lounge of Vegas, if it means we wont be seated next to one of you...meaning Spermmy fans. We'll take Dave in any form or shape. You take Sammy one way. In front of 10 to 20 000 a night? great. enjoy your milk and cookies and have fun blowing your cash on something they used to be. They are skeletons. Dave sells Dave. I will buy that.


And by the look of attendances at his shows, there doesnt appear to be many who share your thoughts

tjvhou812
04-21-2004, 07:25 PM
not for nothing but this is a kewl site,
dont get fooled by some of the members, there are alot of cool people on this site,but there are a few select pipe benders here to
like, FAG TROUBLES

Big Troubles
04-21-2004, 07:26 PM
you are lost dude. Like I said, that's the way we prefer it. We don't want a sellout. ala Van Hagar. We would rather take Dave as himself. Selling rock n roll, because Ed and Co. wont.

marchin2mars
04-21-2004, 07:29 PM
you are lost dude. Like I said, that's the way we prefer it. We don't want a sellout. ala Van Hagar. We would rather take Dave as himself. Selling rock n roll, because Ed and Co. wont.

just out of curiosity, how is "van hagar" a sellout....other than selling out there shows

Big Troubles
04-21-2004, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by tjvhou812
not for nothing but this is a kewl site,
dont get fooled by some of the members, there are alot of cool people on this site,but there are a few select pipe benders here to
like, FAG TROUBLES

what the fuck is your prob? Ive never once bashed you. In fact when you and AlicenChainz were duking it out, and he was bitch slapping you around for bashing Dave, I took YOUR side. Fag? Your a homophobe man. and if you come back with all this shit I said in the Great White thread, then you need a sense of humor. For one thing, all that was said, was said in a roth army thread in a joking fashion. Which btw, was my choosing. I can laugh and cry at whatever i want. Dont pin anything on me, just because Im not afraid to speak my mind and not conform to what others believe. (isn't that a roth song?)
so trust me, follow your instinct. You want me as an enemy? fine.
If you read over this and still want to call me names then fine. But you need help if you think Im a fag for believing in what I believe or laughing at what I laugh at. True or not. see where Im going?

pete
04-21-2004, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by marchin2mars
You people hear are the most pathetic people I believe I have ever come across during my 7 year Internet History. You wish Death on People because of being a fan of someone you don't like. You bad mouth and insult people you do not know because they are a fan of a singer you dont like.................Fuck'n Pathetic

Am I a DLR Era VH fan....absolutely.
Am I a "Van Hagar" era fan...absolutely

Which Era do I prefer....either, they were both great and successful

Which singer do I prefer........Sammy Hagar and I'll tell ya why


I was NEVER a "DIEHARD" Van Halen Fan. I like VH, both Eras, had a few CDs but never seen them in concert.
During the Sam and Dave Tour, me and my buddy decided to Go because he was a HUGE DLR fan, so i was like ok, we'll chill out and relax and drink while listening to Sammy, and then we'll Tear the Fuckin place apart with Dave................so I thought.

Dave come out first and the place went crazy....for about the first song. By the middle of the second song, everyone was pretty much sitting down. We sat there and just kinda waited for DLR to kick it in, but it never happend. After the set was done, we were all like what the fuck was that. My friend was like bumbed out and embarrassed because he kept Pumping me up about Dave because I had never seen him live. So I'm like, Dude don't worry about it, people age, this isnt the 80's anymore....Lets just go get us a beer kick back and listen to Sammy then we'll hit the titty bar on the way home.

Well Sammy comes out and Tears the place apart, fuck'n absolutely Rocked the place. Everyone was on the feet the entire show, Sammy put on the ultimate show. I was totally shocked because I thought it was going to be the other way around. Sam buried Dave and this is coming from a guy who went to the show as Neutral....Didnt care either way.

After the show, i begin looking into Hagar's music more, since he left VH, and become a Sammy Hagar Fan. So yeah I was hoping he would someday re-unite with Van Halen because by Judging by the two performances I thought he would be the better choice, but I in no way ever insulted bashed or wish Death on anyone who was a DLR fan. I come here to read up on what people thought about the Reunion and I see these pathetic posts about sammy and sammy fans

REMEMBER ONE THING...DAVE HAD HIS SHOT , DAVE HAD HIS SHOT TWICE AND HE BLEW IT. IT WASNT SAM'S FAULT, MY FAULT YOUR FAULT, IT WAS DAVE'S FAULT, BECAUSE ITS ALL BOUT DAVE.

DAVE SCREWED ALL OF THE DIE HARD VAN HALEN, DLR ERA FANS. HE SCREWED YOU NOT ANYONE ELSE.

BE PISSED AT DAVE!!!!

DAVE " Sam throws a party, I am the party" Well it looks like everyone is going to Sam's party, while Dave has to play with himself.

Get over it

we wished you dead, yet you feel still felt compelled to post.

felt we needed to hear your opinion.

that your opinion mattered.

that your opinion of us mattered.

that we really wish anyone dead.

get the fuck outta here!!!!

pete
04-21-2004, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by marchin2mars
just out of curiosity, how is "van hagar" a sellout....other than selling out there shows

who told you they sold out LOL

you idiot

the hype ended before it started.

tjvhou812
04-21-2004, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
what the fuck is your prob? Ive never once bashed you. In fact when you and AlicenChainz were duking it out, and he was bitch slapping you around for bashing Dave, I took YOUR side. Fag? Your a homophobe man. and if you come back with all this shit I said in the Great White thread, then you need a sense of humor. For one thing, all that was said, was said in a roth army thread in a joking fashion. Which btw, was my choosing. I can laugh and cry at whatever i want. Dont pin anything on me, just because Im not afraid to speak my mind and not conform to what others believe. (isn't that a roth song?)
so trust me, follow your instinct. You want me as an enemy? fine.
If you read over this and still want to call me names then fine. But you need help if you think Im a fag for believing in what I believe or laughing at what I laugh at. True or not. see where Im going?

you know i never had a prob w/you b4 big troubles, but that station fire thing was out of line, i had a couple of friends that died in that fire, and the bass player in my band, his girlfriend just made it out of their, and she still freaks out about it, thats the only beef i have w/you...

but anyway your still half cool becuase your a dlr fan...

just think before you say dumb shit
some things are better off not being talked about

Big Troubles
04-21-2004, 07:48 PM
Read carefuly. I lost an Uncle and my best friend in the WTC disaster. Where the fuck is my relief? Uh? Is WTC jokes offline? Maybe. But I wont trell someone NOT to say something they feel is what they want to say. I just wont read it. To myself I might say "oh thats in poor taste", but I certainly wouldn't enter the thread and bash people for thinking what they do. As shameful as it might be, for you, for me for anyone who knew anyone that died ANYWHERE. people have to understand that there is no statute of limitations. I feel sad for your loss. Not because you just told me. I feel sad for anyone who loses a loved one. Ive lost 3 close family members recently. And I also grew up not remembering my mother thanks to cancer when I was 4. Who cries for me? Nobody. So like I said. Grip, life or job. Pick one and get one. I have no probs with almost everyone here, even you spermbath, even lsd or hina. I can chat with anyone. But the minute someone tells me Im wrong for feeling something??? Fuck that. I feel what i feel. Peri-fuckin-id.

Big Troubles
04-21-2004, 07:53 PM
Ok? can I stop defending myself and my wave of thoughts yet? Or is Hitler still lurking the fucking corner. I swear Im more pissed off that people actually took that shit so seriously. Its the internet, full of lies and deceit. hell 98% bullshit Im sure. Theres no room for seriousness. have a beer. pull up a chair and maybe we will laugh at someone I wont want to laugh at next. Hell even Onevoice will understand that one. Maybe the people who hate everything should go talk to Arielle Bot. I hear she is a great communicator

marchin2mars
04-21-2004, 07:53 PM
who told you they sold out LOL

you idiot

the hype ended before it started.




LOL....Your avatar says all i need to know about you

thefive
04-21-2004, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by marchin2mars
You people hear are the most pathetic people I believe I have ever come across during my 7 year Internet History. You wish Death on People because of being a fan of someone you don't like. You bad mouth and insult people you do not know because they are a fan of a singer you dont like.................Fuck'n Pathetic

Am I a DLR Era VH fan....absolutely.
Am I a "Van Hagar" era fan...absolutely

Which Era do I prefer....either, they were both great and successful

Which singer do I prefer........Sammy Hagar and I'll tell ya why


I was NEVER a "DIEHARD" Van Halen Fan. I like VH, both Eras, had a few CDs but never seen them in concert.
During the Sam and Dave Tour, me and my buddy decided to Go because he was a HUGE DLR fan, so i was like ok, we'll chill out and relax and drink while listening to Sammy, and then we'll Tear the Fuckin place apart with Dave................so I thought.

Dave come out first and the place went crazy....for about the first song. By the middle of the second song, everyone was pretty much sitting down. We sat there and just kinda waited for DLR to kick it in, but it never happend. After the set was done, we were all like what the fuck was that. My friend was like bumbed out and embarrassed because he kept Pumping me up about Dave because I had never seen him live. So I'm like, Dude don't worry about it, people age, this isnt the 80's anymore....Lets just go get us a beer kick back and listen to Sammy then we'll hit the titty bar on the way home.

Well Sammy comes out and Tears the place apart, fuck'n absolutely Rocked the place. Everyone was on the feet the entire show, Sammy put on the ultimate show. I was totally shocked because I thought it was going to be the other way around. Sam buried Dave and this is coming from a guy who went to the show as Neutral....Didnt care either way.

After the show, i begin looking into Hagar's music more, since he left VH, and become a Sammy Hagar Fan. So yeah I was hoping he would someday re-unite with Van Halen because by Judging by the two performances I thought he would be the better choice, but I in no way ever insulted bashed or wish Death on anyone who was a DLR fan. I come here to read up on what people thought about the Reunion and I see these pathetic posts about sammy and sammy fans

REMEMBER ONE THING...DAVE HAD HIS SHOT , DAVE HAD HIS SHOT TWICE AND HE BLEW IT. IT WASNT SAM'S FAULT, MY FAULT YOUR FAULT, IT WAS DAVE'S FAULT, BECAUSE ITS ALL BOUT DAVE.

DAVE SCREWED ALL OF THE DIE HARD VAN HALEN, DLR ERA FANS. HE SCREWED YOU NOT ANYONE ELSE.

BE PISSED AT DAVE!!!!

DAVE " Sam throws a party, I am the party" Well it looks like everyone is going to Sam's party, while Dave has to play with himself.

Get over it

Dude no one here is going to listen to you.
Your a Sammy fan.

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=62504

This is a David Lee Roth website.

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=53401

Go to your Sam fan websites and Van Hagar websites.

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=54405

Big Troubles
04-21-2004, 07:55 PM
thats a cool avatar pete. dont change it.

marchin2mars
04-21-2004, 07:58 PM
Big Troubles,

You never answered my question

Big Troubles
04-21-2004, 08:01 PM
sorry. what question? Im lost in pure hatred here. :lol: ask again.

BITEYOASS
04-21-2004, 08:03 PM
OH SHIT MORE SPAMMY CONG ARE TRYING TO BREECH THE PERIMETER!!!
OPEN FIRE!!!!



:hagar1: :gun:

:hagar1: :gun:

marchin2mars
04-21-2004, 08:04 PM
LOL...NO Problem



you are lost dude. Like I said, that's the way we prefer it. We don't want a sellout. ala Van Hagar. We would rather take Dave as himself. Selling rock n roll, because Ed and Co. wont.

marchin2mars
04-21-2004, 08:04 PM
How is Van Hagar a sellout?

ALinChainz
04-21-2004, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by marchin2mars
we didn't know if you could stand words like "fuck your girlfriend" ...


why because i said it was pathetic how people on hear insult and wish death on people because they are a fan of a certain singer?

What's sad is a Sammy fan coming to sign up at a David Lee Roth fansite to bash him and make an ass of yourself.

Sound like you need to get the life dude.

thefive
04-21-2004, 08:09 PM
This is why they are a sellout. One of the many reasons.

I hope you get this so I do not have to explain it word for word.

How do I know when it's love?
I can't tell you but it lasts forever
Oh! How does it feel when it's love?
It's just something you feel together

(Oh oh oh oh) Oh, when it's love
(Oh oh oh oh) You can feel it, yeah!
(Oh oh oh oh) Nothin's missin', yeah!
How do I know when it's love?
I can't tell you but it lasts forever
Oh! How does it feel when it's love?
It's just something you feel together

(Oh oh oh oh) Oh, when it's love
(Oh oh oh oh) You can feel it, yeah!
(Oh oh oh oh) Nothin's missin', yeah!

How do I know when it's love?
I can't tell you but it lasts forever
Oh! How does it feel when it's love?
It's just something you feel together

(Oh oh oh oh) Oh, when it's love
(Oh oh oh oh) You can feel it, yeah!
(Oh oh oh oh) Nothin's missin', yeah!


That is selling out.

the5

ALinChainz
04-21-2004, 08:10 PM
Originally posted by marchin2mars
How is Van Hagar a sellout?

Radio friendly, power ballads that would have never happened during the heyday of Van Halen.

Winning Grammys, standing tall right along side the likes of Justin Timberlake, who won a Grammy this year.

thefive
04-21-2004, 08:14 PM
How do I know when it's love?
I can't tell you but it lasts forever
Oh! How does it feel when it's love?
It's just something you feel together

(Oh oh oh oh) Oh, when it's love
(Oh oh oh oh) You can feel it, yeah!
(Oh oh oh oh) Nothin's missin', yeah!


Oh this is just fuckin annoying. These lyrics.
If you ever want to torture me play this song 5 hours again and again.

I wouldnt wish this on my dog.

the5

Big Troubles
04-21-2004, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by marchin2mars
How is Van Hagar a sellout?

honestly? Up until 1984 dave represented a great rock n roll hard rock type band. In 85 when hagar joined they all tuned up their instruments to match hagars higher, yet monotoned voice. They went from making you feel like fucking when you listened to them, to feel like makin' love. Big difference. Pick any old classic VH song and try to compare it with anything from 85 an on. Seriously. Its called sold out, because they caved into what managemnet wanted. They wanted radio hits and love songs that sell. $$$ its called selling out. Its sad because its everything that Van Halen was about. Not selling out. Not caving in. rebels you know. But now they are the exact opposite.

marchin2mars
04-21-2004, 08:28 PM
Radio friendly, power ballads that would have never happened during the heyday of Van Halen.

Winning Grammys, standing tall right along side the likes of Justin Timberlake, who won a Grammy this year


Oh..ok, so there were more diverse with their music, had a lot off success, won awards, got a lot of airplay, and wrote ALL Original Songs...that makes them a sell out


So when DLR tried playing Vegas, with little success,
Tried playing the blues....with little success
and doing a full album with nothing but covers
Got very little airplay.

I guess that would make him an Unsuccessful sellout

marchin2mars
04-21-2004, 08:33 PM
honestly? Up until 1984 dave represented a great rock n roll hard rock type band. In 85 when hagar joined they all tuned up their instruments to match hagars higher, yet monotoned voice. They went from making you feel like fucking when you listened to them, to feel like makin' love. Big difference. Pick any old classic VH song and try to compare it with anything from 85 an on. Seriously. Its called sold out, because they caved into what managemnet wanted. They wanted radio hits and love songs that sell. $$$ its called selling out. Its sad because its everything that Van Halen was about. Not selling out. Not caving in. rebels you know. But now they are the exact opposite.


I see where you are going, but couldnt you also chalk it up to it not selling out, but having a different singer with different writing styles?

I mean it doesnt matter what lead singer VH could have gotten, they were not going to be the same band, same type of songs, etc...that they were with DLR.....I dont see it as selling out as much as i see it altering the style to fit a new singer

Big Troubles
04-21-2004, 08:34 PM
Just unsuccessful in terms of the music industry. Never sold out. Dave selling out would be him doing some Timberlake or Maddona tunes and calling it a hit. making music just for radio sales is a sellout.

pete
04-21-2004, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by marchin2mars
LOL....Your avatar says all i need to know about you

Your percesptions are as simple as your musical taste.

bite me hagarita!

pete
04-21-2004, 08:40 PM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
thats a cool avatar pete. dont change it.

thanks bro - don't justify yourself to this little girl.

pete
04-21-2004, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by marchin2mars
How is Van Hagar a sellout?

Van Halen was the real deal. Van Hagar a bland cliche whose initial sucess had nothing to do with music. It was the momentum of 1984 that guaranteed big sales on anything they put out next with the name VH on it.

sales steadily declined with each release.

Van Hagar is not legit. No heart. No challenge. Nothing groundbreaking. There direction is not decided by instinct. But by hired suits. Just neatly packaged little tunes.....

(DON PARDO'S VOICE)
THAT'S FUN FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY

That's not Rock. It's blasphemy.

marchin2mars
04-21-2004, 08:55 PM
thanks bro - don't justify yourself to this little girl.

Actually Pumpkin, is was not justifying himself, he made a logical statement, I asked him a logical question, he game me a logical answer.....:D

pete
04-21-2004, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by marchin2mars
How is Van Hagar a sellout?
They created something brilliant, artisitic, and entirely they're own. And they acheived success on their own terms.

When they got Hagar it was not the music that sold. Anything would've sold at that time. (A chart would reveal a steady decline with each release.) They were riding on the momentum that they created after "1984".

After "1984", instead of creating or expanding on what made them unique, the opted to apply their sound to very formulatic, typical, cliche songs.

Any attempts to rekindle their old sound sounded contrived and forced and lacked the live energy of the original 6 albums. Plus, hagar can't write anything but cliche rhymes (contrived again). (poundcake LOL)

It's not only a Dave thing. They're not a band. They're a corporation. I hear it. It's high-gloss but plastic. Cut into little edible chunks. Lot's of sugar but very little protein.

They're not the only ones.

Not what I like in my music or art.

pete
04-21-2004, 08:56 PM
Originally posted by marchin2mars
Actually Pumpkin, is was not justifying himself, he made a logical statement, I asked him a logical question, he game me a logical answer.....:D

Who are you spock?

definately not cock

bitch

pete
04-21-2004, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by marchin2mars
Actually Pumpkin, is was not justifying himself, he made a logical statement, I asked him a logical question, he game me a logical answer.....:D

pumpkin?

thefive
04-21-2004, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by pete
. There direction is not decided by instinct. But by hired suits.


Pete you are so right on the nail with this. WB suits. Suits just wanted to make more money. Reminds me of that movie with Michael Douglas and Andy Garcia Black Rain. They keep on saying "Its the suits man the Suits".

Money destroyed Van Halen. Dave worked for so many years to give VH attitude and Sam And Ed ruined it in 9 months. 1984-5150

the 5

pete
04-21-2004, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by thefive
Pete you are so right on the nail with this.

I know.

jesuskrice
04-21-2004, 09:13 PM
To: Marchin2mars

Fact : Everything VH put out after DLR sucked !!!

Fact : Everything Hagar put out ever!!! sucked!!!

Fact : Any material written by VH and Hagar Sucks.

Fact : Everything Roth put out during and after VH is great.

The fact that you like any Hagar or Van Hagar era crap say's it all!!!

pete
04-21-2004, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by jesuskrice


The fact that you like any Hagar or Van Hagar era crap say's it all!!!

that's right. even when i was a teenager and heard "I can't drive 55" you knew he was a poser. His shit lacked.

The only consistent thing about Hagar is his unexceptionality.

Terry
04-21-2004, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
so...please...feel bashed, insulted and death whished...and just get the fuck outta here...

Amen. Halle-fuckin'loooola!

Marchin2Mars, LSD and all these other twats should just hit the bricks.

Am getting bored reading these " i love both eras of Van Halen so i get the best of both worlds i used to like Dave but now he sucks why do you guys make fun of Sammy it's not his fault Dave's not in the band how dare you wish a Van Hagar fan dead" girlish drivel.

Bout the only thing reinforced by the Hagarite Invasion on this website is Sam Halen fans are a bunch of skirts.

Can't you flaming Waboritas at least come up with some new Roth insults and take a stand rather than some half-assed attempt to placate anyone by fence sitting?

Or do you all just lack creativity and cajones (shades of Hagar perhaps)?

Bill Lumbergh
04-21-2004, 10:01 PM
I just think all these Van Hagar fans are coming to grips with the fact that they've been following this fat loser for years. They really prefer Dave , but they're taking out their anger for all the wasted years and dollars they spent on Spam and an uninspired EVH. Myself, I can't wait for this tour to begin so we can hear about what a train wreck it is.

ELVIS
04-21-2004, 10:27 PM
This thread is lame...

pete
04-21-2004, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by ELVIS
This thread is lame...

no wonder you're thread count is so high!

you must have that reply as a template by now.

:)

Lou
04-22-2004, 12:11 AM
Originally posted by pete
They created something brilliant, artisitic, and entirely they're own. And they acheived success on their own terms.

When they got Hagar it was not the music that sold. Anything would've sold at that time. (A chart would reveal a steady decline with each release.) They were riding on the momentum that they created after "1984".

After "1984", instead of creating or expanding on what made them unique, the opted to apply their sound to very formulatic, typical, cliche songs.

Any attempts to rekindle their old sound sounded contrived and forced and lacked the live energy of the original 6 albums. Plus, hagar can't write anything but cliche rhymes (contrived again). (poundcake LOL)

It's not only a Dave thing. They're not a band. They're a corporation. I hear it. It's high-gloss but plastic. Cut into little edible chunks. Lot's of sugar but very little protein.

They're not the only ones.

Not what I like in my music or art.

Wow what a great post. "Van Halen" is so much a business now, more than it's ever been. They are NOT doing this for the love of music because if they did they would have gotten Roth back and done the kick-ass songs. You know what? People like Jagger and Richards, Tyler and Perry who don't like each other will work with each other on stage because their love of music supersedes their animosity towards each other. They respect each other's work and enjoy making good music and art despite the differences. Not so with Ed. He may not like Sam, but he hates Roth even more and he knows that Sambo will just be his bitch. There's no artistry or creativity here, if there was there'd be a new album and new songs. Nope, they're going to play out-dated synth ballads...how pathetic is that?!

I want a Van Hagar fan to tell me how the band progressed doing "When It's Love," "Love Walks In," and then CONTINUING that shit into the '90s with "Not Enough." Please tell me with a straight face that that was progression and they weren't lazy.

Lou
04-22-2004, 12:13 AM
Oh pardon me, there is a new song "It's About Time" right? I'm sure it'll be more typical Van Hagar cheese. And it's something that Ed already wrote right? So Sambo will fit in some lyrics...point being they didn't really collaborate on it and write it together. Absolutely no chemistry.

I really think Van Hagar fans have a common defect in their brains and ears that can be detected emprically.

Dr. Love
04-22-2004, 12:16 AM
The irony is strong in this thread.

Roth-Halen
04-22-2004, 12:38 AM
BIG TROUBLE IS A VERY WELL READ PERSON.
JUST LIKE DAVE ROTH!!!!!!
RIGHT ON BRO.

jeando
04-22-2004, 05:54 AM
Originally posted by thefive
This is why they are a sellout. One of the many reasons.

I hope you get this so I do not have to explain it word for word.

How do I know when it's love?
I can't tell you but it lasts forever
Oh! How does it feel when it's love?
It's just something you feel together

(Oh oh oh oh) Oh, when it's love
(Oh oh oh oh) You can feel it, yeah!
(Oh oh oh oh) Nothin's missin', yeah!
How do I know when it's love?
I can't tell you but it lasts forever
Oh! How does it feel when it's love?
It's just something you feel together

(Oh oh oh oh) Oh, when it's love
(Oh oh oh oh) You can feel it, yeah!
(Oh oh oh oh) Nothin's missin', yeah!

How do I know when it's love?
I can't tell you but it lasts forever
Oh! How does it feel when it's love?
It's just something you feel together

(Oh oh oh oh) Oh, when it's love
(Oh oh oh oh) You can feel it, yeah!
(Oh oh oh oh) Nothin's missin', yeah!


That is selling out.

the5

fore someone who is a spammy hater you sure know your way around with his lyrics?????? .....

smaz
04-22-2004, 06:58 AM
I think Hagar fans hate Dave as their jealous that when Roth was with Halen, he took them to the top. Then Hagar joined, and he took them back down and messed everything up for them. They wish Spammy could be like Dave, successful. But bollocks to that. I listened to about 30 seconds of a VH song with Hagar. His singing was awful and I've made sure I've not heard any more of it.

Big Troubles
04-22-2004, 07:54 AM
Originally posted by Roth-Halen
BIG TROUBLE IS A VERY WELL READ PERSON.
JUST LIKE DAVE ROTH!!!!!!
RIGHT ON BRO.

Why thank you. Now Im gushing. :D

Lou
04-22-2004, 08:44 AM
Originally posted by jeando
fore someone who is a spammy hater you sure know your way around with his lyrics?????? .....

Oooh what a comeback. Like we haven't all heard the Spam songs or got suckered into buying Van Hagar albums hoping it'd be somewhat the same as Van HALEN. And all you have to do is go to van-halen.com to get those lyrics. Nice try, but you fail.

DavidLeeNatra
04-24-2004, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by Lou
Oooh what a comeback. Like we haven't all heard the Spam songs or got suckered into buying Van Hagar albums hoping it'd be somewhat the same as Van HALEN. And all you have to do is go to van-halen.com to get those lyrics. Nice try, but you fail.

for me it is funny because I actually NEVER listened to van hagar (except for 5150...once...and "live without a net"...once) and just READING them is like "hey, which school band from sibiria in russia with a dictionary from the 18'th century tried to translate th eirshit into english"

thefive
04-24-2004, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by jeando
fore someone who is a spammy hater you sure know your way around with his lyrics?????? .....

Like I said its like 4 clicks away. Go to the official vh site. Click and click and lyrics, copy and paste.

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=65410

pete
04-24-2004, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by jeando
fore someone who is a spammy hater you sure know your way around with his lyrics?????? .....

internet lesson #1

go to google.com type a song title in parenthesis. this --> "
is what parenthesis look like, hit your space bar and type lyrics.

it will astound you

you will be the life of the party

people will actually mistake you for intelligent.

and you can wack off to the eloquent pros of Spermmy Gaydar.

DavidLeeNatra
04-24-2004, 09:31 PM
yeah...and to find spammy lyrics it's enough to type "woo yeah love" and you get'em all...

jeando
04-24-2004, 09:54 PM
Get of my back and accept that I don't have any interest of finding a place were I can look into spammy lyrics. Why should I want to????
The thought didn't even cross my mind it's that simple:confused:

pete
04-24-2004, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by jeando
Get of my back and accept that I don't have any interest of finding a place were I can look into spammy lyrics. Why should I want to????
The thought didn't even cross my mind it's that simple:confused:

Well spoken
you get 5 stars from me

rustoffa
04-24-2004, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by pete
internet lesson #1

go to google.com type a song title in parenthesis. this --> "
is what parenthesis look like, hit your space bar and type lyrics.

it will astound you

you will be the life of the party

people will actually mistake you for intelligent.

and you can wack off to the eloquent pros of Spermmy Gaydar.

LMMFAO......also sing365.com has a massive lyrics database. I always look up Dr. Hook lyrics there