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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    Should Op-Ed Spam be Tolerated?

    "Defeatism"
    By Oliver North
    Friday, June 23, 2006


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    "Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival." -- Winston S. Churchill

    WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Sir Winston delivered that line in the House of Commons on May 13 1940, in his first address as Prime Minister. As he was speaking, the French and British armies were reeling from Hitler's onslaught through neutral Belgium. It's a good thing Churchill didn't have "war heroes" like Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., and Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., in Parliament. Otherwise Great Britain might have been compelled to surrender at Dunkirk.

    Regrettably, Messer's Kerry and Murtha are but the most visible and strident members of an increasingly ambitious cult of catastrophe. Though they claim to "support the troops," this is no "loyal opposition." Instead, their party -- and a pliant press corps -- has pushed this dynamic duo to the fore in demanding that the United States abandon Iraq and forego any hope for success in the Global war on Terror. To them, and the broader capitulationist cabal to which they belong, there shall be no "good news" from the battlefield, every American casualty is regarded as a campaign issue, and only critics of the war have credibility.

    It's apparent from last week's acrimonious debate in the House of Representatives and this week's raucous ranting in the Senate that their party's leadership believes that a steady drumbeat of dismal defeatism is the best way to return Democrats to power in the 2006 and 2008 elections. Whether that's true or not remains to be seen -- but the "surrender now crowd" has unquestionably emboldened our adversaries and disheartened our allies overseas. A few recent examples:

    Tokyo, alarmed over North Korean willingness to flight test its multi-stage, nuclear-capable Taepo-dong II intercontinental missile has decided to withdraw its 600 troops from Iraq and bring them home in the event that an emboldened Pyongyang becomes more aggressive.

    From Caracas, Venezuelan strong-man Hugo Chavez, awash in petro-dollars, is actively intervening in the upcoming Nicaraguan elections. With overt and covert help from self-described "Bolivarian Socialist" Chavez, Daniel Ortega and his Sandinistas are poised to reassert control over Nicaragua.

    In Tehran, President Mahmoud Ahmadinijad, perceiving weakened American resolve, is slow-rolling a U.S.-European proposal offering incentives for Iran to abandon its nuclear enrichment program. Meanwhile, the Iranians continue their crash program to install and "spin-up" more centrifuge arrays -- essential to manufacturing weapons-grade nuclear material.

    In Mogadishu, Somalia, a coalition of radical Islamic groups, calling itself the Islamic Courts Union, has proclaimed that it now administers the Somali capital under "religious law." Though U.S. and allied forces are in neighboring Djibouti, the clerics and Islamic radicals appear confident that political discord in Washington will prevent any interference with their plans for establishing a Taliban-like regime.

    And to prove once again that "good news" in Iraq is "no news" back home, the leaders of the "Get Out Now" movement either ignored or derided the announcement this week by Sen. Rick Santorum, R-Pa., and Rep. Pete Hoekstra, R-Mich., the Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, that "more than 500 artillery rounds containing Sarin and Mustard gases have been found in Iraq." Rather than congratulating U.S. troops for locating and destroying these weapons that would be lethal in the hands of terrorists, the "Blame America First" crowd denounced the find as "nothing but old ammunition dating to before the first Gulf War."

    Until now troops fighting the war have shrugged off the critiques. Because they understand the consequences better than most, they have largely ignored calls from the Kerry-Murtha Axis to set a "hard and fast deadline for withdrawing U.S. forces." To an extraordinary extent they have continued to re-enlist and volunteer for repeat tours of duty in the Iraq and Afghanistan war zones. And while all the soldiers, sailors, airmen, Guardsmen and Marines I have talked to in the last few weeks understand being held accountable for their actions -- they do not comprehend the politico-media fascination with negative news. Getting Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was a one-day story. American "atrocities" are news forever.

    Earlier this week, shortly before the Pentagon announced that seven Marines and a U.S. Navy Corpsman would be court-martialed for crimes in Iraq, Sen. Richard "Dick" Durbin, D-Ill., stood in the well of the Senate to complain that we were fighting a war "that has gone on for more than three years -- with no end in sight." The next day a recently returned soldier I had covered in Iraq for FOX News called me up and said, "If we pull out now, the terrorists win." He then asked, "Where will we fight them next -- here?" It's a question the defeatists dare not answer.


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  • LoungeMachine
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jul 2004
    • 32576

    #2
    On another one of your op-ed spam crusades, where you post this crap, and then never even offer your own insights or opinions in your own threads?

    Don't think I won't dump them?
    Originally posted by Kristy
    Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
    Originally posted by cadaverdog
    I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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    • BigBadBrian
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Jan 2004
      • 10625

      #3
      Originally posted by LoungeMachine
      On another one of your op-ed spam crusades, where you post this crap, and then never even offer your own insights or opinions in your own threads?

      Don't think I won't dump them?
      I'm sure you will.

      You have a past history on not wanting opinions, op-eds, and articles that contradict your beliefs.

      “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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      • LoungeMachine
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Jul 2004
        • 32576

        #4
        Bullshit.

        Don't even try that crap.

        It's the fact that you post this stuff over and over, and then NEVER even back up the "opinions" with your OWN aguments.

        In FACT, you once posted that it was your job to post the op-eds, and OUR job to argue the merits, as if we give a shit.

        When will you begin to think for yourself?


        Regardless, you do this to push buttons, and deep down inside you WANT me to dump them so you can whine and start feedback threads complaining about the big bad meanie mods LMAO


        Follow up your op-eds with your own arguments, or they are just spam.

        Same goes with Savicki, so I call bullshit on your claim, as I've dumped his crap, which happens to be left-leaning.

        And for the record, Ollie North belongs in prison.

        I look forward to reading your defense of these op-eds with your own opinion.........just as soon as Hannity tells you what those opinions are.
        Originally posted by Kristy
        Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
        Originally posted by cadaverdog
        I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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        • DEMON CUNT
          Crazy Ass Mofo
          • Nov 2004
          • 3242

          #5
          Another Spam-A-Rific post from the Army's own Spam Master General.

          Banned 01/09/09 | Avatar | Aiken | Spammy | Extreme | Pump | Regular | The View | Toot

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          • Nickdfresh
            SUPER MODERATOR

            • Oct 2004
            • 49210

            #6
            Re: "Defeatism"

            Originally posted by BigBadBrian
            "Defeatism"
            By Oliver North
            Friday, June 23, 2006


            And then there's the time I sold weapons to those evil Islamo-fascists©! He he he, sometimes you have to get in bed with slimy fucking evil-doers in order to save Nicaragua against Communists and put weapons in the hands of ex-fascist, freedom loving baby-killers!

            Did I ever tell you about the time Manuel Noriega grabbed my ass when we were discussing death squad ass-raping and torture techniques?
            ....


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            • BigBadBrian
              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
              • Jan 2004
              • 10625

              #7
              Originally posted by DEMON CUNT
              Another Spam-A-Rific post from the Army's own Spam Master General.

              The above Spam animation is mine, and mine to use exclusively.

              I was using it on worthless threads by Liberals (mostly FORD's DU crap) long before you came here.

              You owe me royalties.



              BTW - I noticed how no liberal can formulate a decent response in this thread. Typical.
              “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49210

                #8
                Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                The above Spam animation is mine, and mine to use exclusively.

                I was using it on worthless threads by Liberals (mostly FORD's DU crap) long before you came here.

                You owe me royalties.



                BTW - I noticed how no liberal can formulate a decent response in this thread. Typical.
                LOL Maybe someday you'll learn to "formulate" your own opinion, one that is supported by actual facts and not op-ed vomit written by self-serving, phony douche bags like North...

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49210

                  #9
                  BTW Brian, are you going to fall on your sword for stealing Sesh's trademark:

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                  • DEMON CUNT
                    Crazy Ass Mofo
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 3242

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                    I was using it on worthless threads by Liberals (mostly FORD's DU crap) long before you came here.

                    BTW - I noticed how no liberal can formulate a decent response in this thread. Typical.
                    Weakest of the weak!

                    You are Lord of worthless threads. All Hail BigBlandButthole Lord of the Spam!



                    You haven't even offered any perspective on that treasonous criminal liar's ranting. Just your usual cut and paste jackoff.
                    Banned 01/09/09 | Avatar | Aiken | Spammy | Extreme | Pump | Regular | The View | Toot

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                    • LoungeMachine
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 32576

                      #11
                      Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                      The above Spam animation is mine, and mine to use exclusively.

                      I was using it on worthless threads by Liberals (mostly FORD's DU crap) long before you came here.

                      You owe me royalties.



                      BTW - I noticed how no liberal can formulate a decent response in this thread. Typical.

                      I notice how YOU can't formulate your OWN opinion on this spam-thread.......and thus it is CLOSED, BITCH.

                      I TOLD you what would happen if you post this shit, and then can't offer your own arguments within the thread.

                      But I notice you do cry and whine about a can of spam pic. LMMFAO

                      Fucking pussy.
                      Originally posted by Kristy
                      Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                      Originally posted by cadaverdog
                      I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                      • Warham
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 14589

                        #12
                        Let's see.

                        Brian posts an op-ed, and Lounge whines and cries about how he never posts a follow-up.

                        The DEMON posts a can of spam, and Brian cries about how it's his to use alone.

                        I'd say we're even here.

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                        • LoungeMachine
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 32576

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Warham
                          Let's see.

                          Brian posts an op-ed, and Lounge whines and cries about how he never posts a follow-up.

                          The DEMON posts a can of spam, and Brian cries about how it's his to use alone.

                          I'd say we're even here.
                          LMAO

                          I tend to agree.

                          A few things:

                          Brie has been warned about this repeatedly. And I would hold LIBS to the same standard, but whenever Nick, Ford, et al post an op-ed [rarely], they ALWAYS follow it up with their own thoughts. Not spam and run, like Brie.

                          Second, I respect WarHAM for not re-opening this thread, and respecting my decision to close it. A fellow Mod doesn't have to agree with a move.....just respect it.

                          Third, I think it's HILARIOUS Brie claims ownership of a can of Spam.

                          Oh, the irony


                          And with that, I'd like to re-open this thread and use it as a forum to discuss posting op-eds and NOT bothering to follow up with the thread-starter's own opinions and thoughts.

                          If I'm wrong about this, I'll stop.

                          But I STRONGLY believe that if an op-ed written by someone OTHER than the poster is introduced, it is incumbent on the poster to be engaged in the topic, not just pushing buttons and spamming.

                          -Lung
                          Originally posted by Kristy
                          Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                          Originally posted by cadaverdog
                          I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                          • Ellyllions
                            Veteran
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 2012

                            #14
                            Wow, this is interesting.

                            Well, I haven't seen it as spamming but I can see why someone would say that. I've actually enjoyed the resource of having people post articles on this forum no matter how they "lean". But I've never given thought to how it affects the board if the poster doesn't respond in some way to the article.


                            hmm...
                            "If our country is worth dying for in time of war let us resolve that it is truly worth living for in time of peace." - Hamilton Fish

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                            • Nickdfresh
                              SUPER MODERATOR

                              • Oct 2004
                              • 49210

                              #15
                              Well, he's calmed down, but there was a time that BBB would post no less than 10 or 15 articles on the same subject from townhall.com in the space of like five minutes, effectively doing little but causing us to host a mirror for townhall.com. The redundancy was annoying and malicious and it purposefully hindered any actual discussion.

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