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  • Jérôme Frenchise
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Nov 2004
    • 7173

    Deep Purple

    I got both albums when they were released. Except the inevitable "Smoke on the water" and its B-side, "Never Before", I didn't know much about Deep Purple in 1984, the year when "Perfect Strangers" was out. I caught up my delay shortly after, buying "In Rock", "Machine Head" and "Made in Japan". Their tops, as it's often said, and I agree; yet, what they recorded in 1984 and 1986, if it's not exactly comparable, is worth listening carefully IMO.
    I was impressed by that vinyl record, "Perfect Strangers", which I've probably listened to about 600 times until I bought the first reissue on CD (very disappointing because of a weak sound!). I've just downloaded both remastered albums, and it was still a pleasure to play them with volume in the last few days.

    The compositions in "Perfect Strangers" are awesome, really. All five of them, I mean the only who can call themselves Deep Purple aka Mark II, that is Gillan, Blackmore, Glover, Lord & Paice, all of them are in top shape here...
    All 8 songs are powerful, Blackmore's guitar parts are splendid, Gillan's voice and words sound really, really great, and the other three sound like no other could do the job in their place... And it's like the whole of it comes from nowhere in time, and it sure sounds completely different from what was on air in 1984, while never outdated.
    I dig every single song on that album, but especially "Under the Gun", Gypsy's Kiss" and "Hungry Daze" that still amaze me more than 20 years later. Blackmore is particularly inspired on these, which in his case means a damn lot!



    I was delighted when the same Five released "The House of Blue Light" in early 1987 - though it made me less enthusiastic while listening, because of 2 weak tracks (IMO, "Mad Dog" and "Dead or Alive, which I took out with no regret to put both albums on one CD).
    But the remaining 8 tracks are still great tunes, full of ideas and energy, the band kicks ass, though the sound has changed, mainly because Jon Lord experienced different keyboards at times.
    Perhaps the record is slightly less memorable than "Perfect Strangers", but it's still very high-calibre music of course.
    "The Unwritten Law", "Strangeways" and "The Spanish Archer" are my faves in there.
    In the rest of the song, they tend to stick to the structure of classic rock songs, with the extra guts and savoir-faire though.

    I think that both records are rather underestimated.

    posted by Ellyllions Men say, "I'll never understand women." That's a very lonely place to be if you're a woman because we don't understand half of what we do either.
    posted by ALinChainz Katy, Pipe down, pump off, and fly back to your cave you old bat.
  • Satan
    ROTH ARMY ELITE
    • Jan 2004
    • 6663

    #2
    These were the last 2 albums worthy of the name "Deep Purple". Everything after that became a huge revolving door joke of a band.

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    I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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    • Tiki-Tom
      Commando
      • Apr 2006
      • 1071

      #3
      "Perfect Strangers" was Great. Can't get into them without Blackmore though,It's just not the same Purple.
      "Strangers" is a classic Purple record for sure.
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      • Jérôme Frenchise
        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
        • Nov 2004
        • 7173

        #4
        Originally posted by Satan
        These were the last 2 albums worthy of the name "Deep Purple". Everything after that became a huge revolving door joke of a band.
        I dig this expression! It's very adequate here.

        Then I think it's Ritchie Blackmore who quit, for reasons I don't remember; but that 4-year reunion was worth it back then, and it still is in retrospect.

        BTW, I see it's only me who's got trouble with YouTube... I just can't start a search there, damned! And I know there are other vids, at least "Perfect Strangers", "Bad Attitude" and "Call of the Wild".

        I've had a look at Google video, but it's infested with versions featuring Steve Morse... Aaarrgh!
        posted by Ellyllions Men say, "I'll never understand women." That's a very lonely place to be if you're a woman because we don't understand half of what we do either.
        posted by ALinChainz Katy, Pipe down, pump off, and fly back to your cave you old bat.

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        • Terry
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Jan 2004
          • 11951

          #5
          Perfect Strangers was, and remains, a great record. Probably one of the few made by a reunited band that lived up to their own track record. Ian had kinda blew an o-ring on his throat valve screaming his fuckin' head off with Sabbath the year before (Born Again is definitely a killer Sabbath album, but I digress), but he did a fine job on PS.

          I love the lyrics on so many of the tunes - Where brave men fall, Under crimson skies, There's a sadness reflected in soldier's eyes - hell, I'm STILL trying to figure out some of what he was singing about in A Gypsy's Kiss, and even having the lyric sheet doesn't help!

          Blackmore did some great stuff on that one - was lucky enough to catch them touring that album, with Girlschool opening, and I remember they were both excellent and one of the loudest bands I've heard to this day.

          House Of Blue Light I enjoyed (even the dreaded Mad Dog), although a little less, but really haven't bothered with them since Morse joined the band. Have seen some clips of them live with Morse and heard some of the stuff, but it wasn't anything essential to my ears. For some reason I'm thinking that after House of Blue Light Joe Lynn Turner joined the band for an album and tour, although I may be wrong...

          Good call on it standing out from other stuff coming out in 1984, Jerome. It was both distinctive from everything else, remained true to what Purple was about, yet didn't sound like a bunch of geezers on a nostalgia trip. No easy feat to pull off, but they did it.
          Scramby eggs and bacon.

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          • Jérôme Frenchise
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Nov 2004
            • 7173

            #6
            Well cheers, Terry! I agree with your post, and I've got to admit that I envy you who saw them on stage back then, therefore heard those particular tunes live...

            As for "A Gypsy's Kiss", one day at that time I asked my uncle about what on earth it could mean, and he had no idea, adding that maybe one day I would understand... but I still don't!
            And well, if you don't either, I can't see how I would.

            I underlined two lines I especially get nothing about, though mainly these words are still a mystery to me as a whole.
            "La la Janette"... :confused:

            John San, what you can,
            La la Janette dance in sand
            What’s the mystery my son?...
            Gypsy Dan caravan,
            Won tun wan with your Chinese fan,
            It’s part of history my son...

            Murder and rape with your power,
            The 10th Revolution in far away days,
            It’s come to this,
            A gypsy’s kiss,
            All your power’s gonna fade in the haze...

            Ya who’ jumme gae bile ya heed,
            The senorita said
            "I’ll drag yer lungs out through yer nose"...
            Space truckers free and high,
            Teamsters get ya by and by,
            That should keep you on your toes...

            They got a gun at your head,
            But you ain’t necessarily playing their game...
            They can’t resist
            A gypsy’s kiss,
            All that’s needed to drive them insane...

            John Wayne, the Alamo,
            Crazy Horse, Geronimo,
            I’ll smoke a piece with you...
            Mind, body, heart and soul,
            We got rock and roll
            And there’s nothing they can do...

            Hear the small voice of truth,
            Above the shouting despair of the crowd,
            What do you wish?
            A gypsy’s kiss,
            Gets you strong for crying out loud...
            posted by Ellyllions Men say, "I'll never understand women." That's a very lonely place to be if you're a woman because we don't understand half of what we do either.
            posted by ALinChainz Katy, Pipe down, pump off, and fly back to your cave you old bat.

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            • binnie
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • May 2006
              • 19144

              #7
              I actually got tired of Purple when Coverdale joined.

              No offence to him, he's a great singer, but without Gillan it just wasn't the same for me......


              I didn't like most of the 80's output - but at their peak they were a fantastic band.
              The Power Of The Riff Compels Me

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              • Mr. Vengeance
                Full Member Status

                • Nov 2004
                • 4148

                #8
                Those two albums were splendid. A group that was re-energised after a layoff.

                But, if you're not listening to the band since then, you're missing out. With the exception of an album where Joe Lynn Turner (the backup quarterback of rock) is on vocals, all the Purple albums are strong. Even with the defection of Blackmore, who I've always regarded as being overated as a guitar god anyway, the band continues to rock and they're replaced original members with good replacements in Morse and Don Airey. You should check them out.
                Stay Frosty, muthas!

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                • binnie
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • May 2006
                  • 19144

                  #9
                  On the strenght of these recommendations, I'll go and hunt oit some later day Purple.....
                  The Power Of The Riff Compels Me

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                  • Terry
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 11951

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
                    Well cheers, Terry! I agree with your post, and I've got to admit that I envy you who saw them on stage back then, therefore heard those particular tunes live...

                    As for "A Gypsy's Kiss", one day at that time I asked my uncle about what on earth it could mean, and he had no idea, adding that maybe one day I would understand... but I still don't!
                    And well, if you don't either, I can't see how I would.

                    I underlined two lines I especially get nothing about, though mainly these words are still a mystery to me as a whole.
                    "La la Janette"... :confused:

                    John San, what you can,
                    La la Janette dance in sand
                    What’s the mystery my son?...
                    Gypsy Dan caravan,
                    Won tun wan with your Chinese fan,
                    It’s part of history my son...

                    Murder and rape with your power,
                    The 10th Revolution in far away days,
                    It’s come to this,
                    A gypsy’s kiss,
                    All your power’s gonna fade in the haze...

                    Ya who’ jumme gae bile ya heed,
                    The senorita said
                    "I’ll drag yer lungs out through yer nose"...
                    Space truckers free and high,
                    Teamsters get ya by and by,
                    That should keep you on your toes...

                    They got a gun at your head,
                    But you ain’t necessarily playing their game...
                    They can’t resist
                    A gypsy’s kiss,
                    All that’s needed to drive them insane...

                    John Wayne, the Alamo,
                    Crazy Horse, Geronimo,
                    I’ll smoke a piece with you...
                    Mind, body, heart and soul,
                    We got rock and roll
                    And there’s nothing they can do...

                    Hear the small voice of truth,
                    Above the shouting despair of the crowd,
                    What do you wish?
                    A gypsy’s kiss,
                    Gets you strong for crying out loud...

                    SUCH a brilliant song all the way around. Think Blackmore's leads on this are fantastick!

                    Those two lines you notated - SOMEONE explain what the fuck Ian means!!
                    Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                    • Mr Badguy
                      Full Member Status

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 3554

                      #11
                      I think they`re good but not great Purple albums.

                      They don`t have the rawness of the earlier MKII albums, Lord`s organ (OO-ER!) doesn`t have the same distortion as the early 70`s which gave songs like "Black night" and "Space truckin`" a real growling bottom end.

                      I think letting Roger Glover produce them was a mistake as he made the sound too much like the later Rainbow albums which he also produced.
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                      Sitting on a park bench!

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                      • Apollo
                        Roadie
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 110

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jérôme Frenchise
                        Well cheers, Terry! I agree with your post, and I've got to admit that I envy you who saw them on stage back then, therefore heard those particular tunes live...

                        As for "A Gypsy's Kiss", one day at that time I asked my uncle about what on earth it could mean, and he had no idea, adding that maybe one day I would understand... but I still don't!
                        And well, if you don't either, I can't see how I would.

                        I underlined two lines I especially get nothing about, though mainly these words are still a mystery to me as a whole.
                        "La la Janette"... :confused:

                        John San, what you can,
                        La la Janette dance in sand
                        What’s the mystery my son?...
                        Gypsy Dan caravan,
                        Won tun wan with your Chinese fan,
                        It’s part of history my son...

                        Murder and rape with your power,
                        The 10th Revolution in far away days,
                        It’s come to this,
                        A gypsy’s kiss,
                        All your power’s gonna fade in the haze...

                        Ya who’ jumme gae bile ya heed,
                        The senorita said
                        "I’ll drag yer lungs out through yer nose"...
                        Space truckers free and high,
                        Teamsters get ya by and by,
                        That should keep you on your toes...

                        They got a gun at your head,
                        But you ain’t necessarily playing their game...
                        They can’t resist
                        A gypsy’s kiss,
                        All that’s needed to drive them insane...

                        John Wayne, the Alamo,
                        Crazy Horse, Geronimo,
                        I’ll smoke a piece with you...
                        Mind, body, heart and soul,
                        We got rock and roll
                        And there’s nothing they can do...

                        Hear the small voice of truth,
                        Above the shouting despair of the crowd,
                        What do you wish?
                        A gypsy’s kiss,
                        Gets you strong for crying out loud...

                        Check out Ian Gillans autobiography.
                        He explains alot of his lyrics there and the story behind them.
                        Can't remember if this particular one is mentioned though.

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                        • Jérôme Frenchise
                          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 7173

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Mr. Vengeance
                          Those two albums were splendid. A group that was re-energised after a layoff.

                          But, if you're not listening to the band since then, you're missing out. With the exception of an album where Joe Lynn Turner (the backup quarterback of rock) is on vocals, all the Purple albums are strong. Even with the defection of Blackmore, who I've always regarded as being overated as a guitar god anyway, the band continues to rock and they're replaced original members with good replacements in Morse and Don Airey. You should check them out.
                          Cheers, but I widely checked the live stuff with Morse and "Bananas" (what a bore, I thought) and the latest one (2005, which sounds a bit more intersting), but I can't get used to Steve Morse, really. I even hate the way he plays the golden stuff on stage and the fact he poses so much in the middle of the scene, so much more than Ritchie Blackmore himself!...
                          I also checked Morse's solo stuff, and I was way more interested in it. Him playing Deep Purple classic is heresy IMO.
                          posted by Ellyllions Men say, "I'll never understand women." That's a very lonely place to be if you're a woman because we don't understand half of what we do either.
                          posted by ALinChainz Katy, Pipe down, pump off, and fly back to your cave you old bat.

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                          • Jérôme Frenchise
                            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 7173

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Terry
                            SOMEONE explain what the fuck Ian means!!
                            Yes, this would be worth a Nobel Prize!
                            posted by Ellyllions Men say, "I'll never understand women." That's a very lonely place to be if you're a woman because we don't understand half of what we do either.
                            posted by ALinChainz Katy, Pipe down, pump off, and fly back to your cave you old bat.

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                            • Jérôme Frenchise
                              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                              • Nov 2004
                              • 7173

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Apollo
                              Check out Ian Gillans autobiography.
                              He explains alot of his lyrics there and the story behind them.
                              Can't remember if this particular one is mentioned though.
                              Thanks a lot for the hint!

                              But hey, it probably took him a couple of hours to write those lyrics, then how long did it take him in his book for exegesis?
                              posted by Ellyllions Men say, "I'll never understand women." That's a very lonely place to be if you're a woman because we don't understand half of what we do either.
                              posted by ALinChainz Katy, Pipe down, pump off, and fly back to your cave you old bat.

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