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  • Little Texan
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    • Jan 2004
    • 4579

    Wow, now even the Pope is talking shit about Islam!

    Local Outrage Over Pope's Muslim RemarksMany Surprised And Angry
    By Vic Lee
    Sep. 15 - KGO - Muslims around the world are enraged tonight by comments Pope Benedict made about Islam. The reaction here, at least from the San Francisco Muslim community, was more measured. Many had not heard about the comments when they went to Friday prayers at a mosque here in San Francisco. And those who had wanted the pope to explain what he meant.

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    Many Muslims who came for Friday prayers at the mosque on Jones and Market were surprised and angry at the pope's remarks.

    Nawaf Shatrat, Islamic Society of S.F.: "If it's his intention to spread the word that Islam is a terrorist religion, yes he should apologize to the Muslim people and should explain his position exactly."

    The pontiff made his controversial comments during a speech Tuesday at a German university. At one point the pope talked about jihad and holy war and that violence was incompatible with the nature of god. He quoted from a book recounting the words of a 14th century Christian Emperor.

    The Pope: "The emperor comes to speak about the issue of jihad, holy war. I quote 'show me just what Muhammad brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.'"

    According to a published report, the pontiff did not explicitly agree nor repudiate the statement.

    From Turkey, to Tehran, to Cairo, from the Muslim brotherhood to the Pakistani government Muslims around the world responded angrily, demanding he apologize.

    A prominent Turkish politician said, "He is going down in history in the same category as leaders such as Adolph Hitler and Benito Mussolini."

    The Pakistani government said the remarks were "deeply disturbing for Muslims all over the world."

    Britain's Muslim council called the comments "Ill informed and bigoted."

    The Islamic Society of San Francisco says it has good relations with Catholic Church officials here.

    Souliman Ghali says both sides need to go beyond the rhetoric.

    Souliman Ghali, Islamic Society of S.F.: "We need to really focus on what combines us together, some of the good work we've been doing together and we need to forgive each other every once in a while."

    The Vatican scrambled to control the damage. It issued a statement saying the pope did not intend to offend Muslims. The Vatican's chief spokesman insisted that Pope Benedict respects Islam. The spokesman for the San Francisco archdiocese was unavailable for comment.

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  • Nickdfresh
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    • Oct 2004
    • 49203

    #2
    Well, he was in the Nazi German Army, wasn't he?

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    • Nitro Express
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      • Aug 2004
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      #3
      As Diamond Dave says, you are as big as what bothers you. The Muslims are showing us they aren't very big. Good hell, they go off like a balistic two year old over some cartoons.
      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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      • Nitro Express
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        • Aug 2004
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        #4
        My uncle was in the Nazi army. It's called getting a draft notice from Adolf Hitler telling you to report to such and such instalation on such and such time on such and such date. Failure to comply will bring grave circumstances.

        It's not like everyone in the Whermacht was some crazy lunatic.
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • FORD
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          • Jan 2004
          • 58783

          #5
          Ratzinger may or may not have volunteered to be a Nazi, but he definitely DID volunteer to join Opus Dei, and they are every bit as bad as fundie Islamists, or dominionist Protestants. All want the same goal. The "kingdom of God" brought about by violence.
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          • Soul Reaper
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Jan 2005
            • 8338

            #6
            Muslims shooting themselves in the foot again....

            They get angry when accused of being violent, then reply by using violence....thus proving what the Pope said....
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            • blueturk
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              • Jul 2004
              • 1883

              #7
              I don't take too much stock in the leader of a church whose claim to fame is molesting boys.

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              • Dr. Love
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                • Jan 2004
                • 7832

                #8


                Good... let your hate flow through you ...
                I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

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                • The_KiD
                  Commando
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 1041

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Nitro Express
                  As Diamond Dave says, you are as big as what bothers you. The Muslims are showing us they aren't very big. Good hell, they go off like a balistic two year old over some cartoons.
                  I could not have said it better.. 5 Stars...

                  Cheers,

                  KiD

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                  • The_KiD
                    Commando
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 1041

                    #10
                    Originally posted by blueturk
                    I don't take too much stock in the leader of a church whose claim to fame is molesting boys.
                    Well said. Not to offend anyone but IMO Catholics are some of the biggest Hypocrites out there.. I could give a fuck what he says..

                    Oh yea, fuck Islam too..Peaceful people my ass..Derka Derka..

                    Cheers,

                    KiD

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                    • Nickdfresh
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                      • Oct 2004
                      • 49203

                      #11
                      Yeah well, political cartoons are one thing (and they were pretty dishonest cartoons to be fair, since there was no gun powder during the time of Mohamed, and I think the Christian Crusaders of the time were pretty violent and could slaughter civilian noncombatants with the best of 'em.)

                      But, major religious leaders shouldn't condemn others. What if Pope Boerman had said the Jews (irony alert) "tended to be tight with money, and control too many financial institutions?"

                      I don't think he'd get off as easy.

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                      • Ally_Kat
                        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 7612

                        #12
                        Originally posted by FORD
                        Ratzinger may or may not have volunteered to be a Nazi, but he definitely DID volunteer to join Opus Dei, and they are every bit as bad as fundie Islamists, or dominionist Protestants. All want the same goal. The "kingdom of God" brought about by violence.
                        It was the Hitler youth and he didn't volunteer. It became mandatory. And are you going by rumors spread by some Jesuit preists who were leaving the faith? Or are you going by Dan Brown? And have you read the full speech? Because you would see how it contradicts your entire last sentence.


                        Originally posted by Nickdfresh


                        But, major religious leaders shouldn't condemn others. What if Pope Boerman had said the Jews (irony alert) "tended to be tight with money, and control too many financial institutions?"
                        Have you read the entire speech, Nick, or are you going on the two words quoted in the press, which weren't even his words. The words that are angering the Muslim community were a passage he quoted in a lecture he was given. The lecture was about the struggle between science and fundamentalism and how religion shouldn't succumb to their stereotypes and towards fundamentalism. The Pope was not condemning the Muslim faith or any of its leaders. He was not saying that Muslims in general spread the faith by the sword. He was talking about fundamentalism in all faiths and how it shouldn't be.
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                        • Nitro Express
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                          • Aug 2004
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by FORD
                          Ratzinger may or may not have volunteered to be a Nazi, but he definitely DID volunteer to join Opus Dei, and they are every bit as bad as fundie Islamists, or dominionist Protestants. All want the same goal. The "kingdom of God" brought about by violence.
                          The Opus Dei monk in The Davinci Code had some issues. Shit, when Jesus said his followers were sheep he wasn't kidding. Jesus was a herder of sheep and so are the ones who do so in his name.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • Nitro Express
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                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32797

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Dr. Love


                            Good... let your hate flow through you ...
                            LOL! Now we know who's really behind Darth Bush now.
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                            • Nitro Express
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                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32797

                              #15
                              The new German pople is like Sammy Hagar. He's replaced an icon that is unreplacable. Pope John II was the Catholic version of David Lee Roth. LOL!
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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