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Haggard steps down amid gay affair inquiry
By Eric Gorski, Felisa Cardona and Manny Gonzales
Denver Post Staff Writers
DenverPost.com
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Ted Haggard, one of the most prominent evangelical pastors in the nation, resigned today as president of the National Association of Evangelicals amid allegations that he carried on a three-year sexual relationship with a male prostitute.
Haggard, founder of the 14,000-member New Life Church, has denied the accusations but said in a statement released by the church today that he could "not continue to minister under the cloud created by accusations made on Denver talk radio this morning."
He has placed himself on administrative leave pending investigation, spiritual counsel and a decision by the church's board of overseers, the church's legal counsel said. Haggard founded the church in 1985.
"I am voluntarialy stepping aside from leadership so that the overseer process can be allowed to proceed with integrity. I hope to be able to discuss this matter in more detail at a later date," Haggard's statement said.
The former prostitute, Mike Jones, 49, of Denver, went public with the accusations on Tuesday, saying he felt compelled to do so because he believes Haggard, a strong opponent of same-sex unions, has been hypocritical. Haggard is married with five children.
"I made myself cry and I made myself sick," Jones said about his decision to come forward. "I felt I owed this to the community. What he is saying is we are not worthy, but he is."
Jones says he was contacted three years ago by Haggard for sex - he thinks through a gay newspaper advertisement or an online ad he posted on rentboy.com.
Today, Jones showed the Denver Post an envelope addressed to him from "Art," a name Jones says Haggard used - sent from an address in Colorado Springs. Jones said the envelope came to him with two $100 bills inside.
Jones also played a recording of a voicemail left for Jones from "Art." Jones refused to reveal what the topic of the voicemail was about because there could be legal problems and he wants to consult with an attorney.
"They want to protect the sanctity of marriage and I am trying to figure out what that means because they are not doing a good job," Jones said of anti-gay marriage proponents. "To have someone in such a high profile position preaching against them and doing opposite behind other people's backs is hypocritical."
Jones said he would take a lie detector test to validate his claims.
The church's lawyer, Martin Nussbaum, said Haggard's resignation is in no way an admission of guilt. He's already denied Jones' accusations, but feels that when an allegation like this is made, he needs to take this step, Nussbaum said.
Nussbaum, paraphrased: The bylaws state that when an allegation of immorality is made, this process is triggered, where he puts himself on leave. The outside board makes the final decision.
In the interim, the church's associate senior pastor, the Rev. Ross Parsley, will serve as acting senior pastor of the church.
Staff writer Manny Gonzales can be reached at 303-954-1537 or mgonzales@denverpost.com
Link (http://www.denverpost.com/ci_4588998)
Not familiar at all with the guy's "ministry", but if he's turning it over to Rod Parsley's brother, then they're probably dominionist totalitarian nutcases like he is.
Or nut-lickers, in Ted's case.
Yep, he's definitely a dominionist dickwad alright.... and a close personal friend of another well known Republican closet case......
http://www.harpers.org/SoldiersOfChrist.html
“Church” is insufficient to describe the complex. There is a permanent structure called the Tent, which regularly fills with hundreds or thousands of teens and twentysomethings for New Life's various youth gatherings. Next to the Tent stands the old sanctuary, a gray box capable of seating 1,500; this juts out into the new sanctuary, capacity 7,500, already too small. At the complex's western edge is the World Prayer Center, which looks like a great iron wedge driven into the plains. The true architectural wonder of New Life, however, is the pyramid of authority into which it orders its 11,000 members. At the base are 1,300 cell groups, whose leaders answer to section leaders, who answer to zone, who answer to district, who answer to Pastor Ted Haggard, New Life's founder.
Pastor Ted, who talks to President George W. Bush or his advisers every Monday, is a handsome forty-eight-year-old Indianan, most comfortable in denim. He likes to say that his only disagreement with the President is automotive; Bush drives a Ford pickup, whereas Pastor Ted loves his Chevy. In addition to New Life, Pastor Ted presides over the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE), whose 45,000 churches and 30 million believers make up the nation's most powerful religious lobbying group, and also over a smaller network of his own creation, the Association of Life-Giving Churches, 300 or so congregations modeled on New Life's “free market” approach to the divine.
ODShowtime
11-02-2006, 09:16 PM
I can't believe I missed this.
Doing meth before meeting your gay prostitute?
The leader of the flock!
LoungeMachine
11-02-2006, 09:40 PM
I wonder when he'll be checking into Rehab and outing the Priest that molested him....
DEMON CUNT
11-02-2006, 09:51 PM
AWESOME!
Christian hypocrite cocksuckers are way more entertaining than stupid John "Frankenstien McLose Election" Kerry!
DEMON CUNT
11-02-2006, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
I wonder when he'll be checking into Rehab and outing the Priest that molested him....
Yes, I am sure that the scheme to avoid responsibility is already being designed.
LoungeMachine
11-02-2006, 09:56 PM
Reuters
11.02.06
John Kerry has just made a joke about Gay Hypocrticial Neo Con Evangelical Preachers.
Rove is thrilled.
Hardrock69
11-02-2006, 10:22 PM
LMFAO!
Kerry crams his own foot into his mouth so deep he craps it out his ass......fucking dumbass.
As for the cock-gobbling evangelist, another Christian hypocrite fucking asshole.
:rolleyes:
There was a news item in Gnashville last week about how some small church here in Tennessee was going to "boycott WalMart" because WalMart has a corporate policy that does not discriminate against gay people.
The stupid fucking shithead fucks at that Church fail to understand that WalMart is acting much more Christian than they are.
But then, I have never gone to the small hick town where it is to participate in their farmhand devil worshipping ceremonies either.
These narrow-minded fucktards would just as soon have a world full of White Christian folks, where anyone who does not conform is cast out of society and fed to the lions....
If you are going to claim to be a "Christian", obviously you should walk the walk.
This stupid fucking asshole is probably going to hell in a handbasket now....will his family disown him? Will he become an alcoholic junkie male prostitute starring in gay fuck movies in order to make enough to pay his legal bills?
Tune in to next week's episode of "As The Conservative Burns".
:D
Nickdfresh
11-02-2006, 10:31 PM
He's not gay, he was just ministering to the gay hooker's butt...
DEMON CUNT
11-02-2006, 10:55 PM
Local news video @ Crooks and Liars:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/11/02/ted-haggard-talks/
Hardrock69
11-03-2006, 12:46 PM
Yeah that fucking idiot will do anything to deny he is a pole-smoker.
He apparently worships by screaming "Oh GOD!" as he is getting butt-slammed by the gay prostitute.
:rolleyes:
DrMaddVibe
11-03-2006, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
He's not gay, he was just ministering to the gay hooker's butt...
LMAO!!!
I don't think he's gay, but I think he'd hold a dick in his mouth till a real queer showed up!
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DLR'sCock
11-03-2006, 03:10 PM
Let's not forget that this guy is a METH user.
Meth is bad bad shit too. I rank that up there with crack and heroin.
Hardrock69
11-03-2006, 03:49 PM
It is all over.
He is a Meth-smoking cock gobbler:
Evangelist admits meth, massage, no sex
By CATHERINE TSAI, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. - Evangelist Ted Haggard admitted Friday that he bought methamphetamine and received a massage from a gay prostitute who claims he was paid for drug-fueled trysts by the outspoken gay marriage opponent.
Haggard resigned Thursday as president of the National Association of Evangelicals and stepped down as leader of his Colorado megachurch while the two groups investigate the allegations.
Talking to reporters outside his house Friday, Haggard denied the sex allegations but said that he did buy meth from the man because he was curious.
"I bought it for myself but never used it," he said. "I was tempted, but I never used it."
Haggard, a married father of five, said he never had sex with Mike Jones, a 49-year-old male prostitute who sparked the scandal when he told a radio station he had had a three-year sexual relationship with the minister. He said he did get a massage from Jones after being referred to him by a Denver hotel.
Haggard resigned as president of the 30 million-member association Thursday and stepped down as the leader of the New Life Church pending investigations into Jones' claims.
The executive committee of the National Association of Evangelicals, which claims 30 million members, planned a conference call Friday and said it would release a statement afterward.
The acting pastor of Haggard's New Life Church, Ross Parsley, told congregants in an e-mail that the church's four-member board of overseers had met with Haggard on Thursday.
"It is important for you to know that he confessed to the overseers that some of the accusations against him are true. He has willingly and humbly submitted to the authority of the board of overseers, and will remain on administrative leave during the course of the investigation," the e-mail stated.
The scandal hit as voters in Colorado and seven other states are getting ready to decide Tuesday on amendments banning gay marriage. Besides the proposed ban on the Colorado ballot, a separate measure would establish the legality of domestic partnerships providing same-sex couples with many of the rights of married couples.
Members of Haggard's 14,000-member megachurch were stunned.
"It's political, right before the elections," said Brian Boals, a New Life member for 17 years.
Church member E.J. Cox, 25, called the claims "ridiculous."
"People are always saying stuff about Pastor Ted," she said. "You just sort of blow it off. He's just like anyone else in the public eye."
Jones said he decided to go public because he was also upset when he discovered Haggard and the New Life Church had publicly opposed same-sex marriage.
"It made me angry that here's someone preaching about gay marriage and going behind the scenes having gay sex," he said.
"I just want people to step back and take a look and say, 'Look, we're all sinners, we all have faults, but if two people want to get married, just let them, and let them have a happy life,'" said Jones, who added that he isn't working for any political group.
Jones claimed that Haggard, 50, paid him to have sex nearly every month over three years. He said he advertised himself as an escort on the Internet and was contacted by a man who called himself Art, who snorted methamphetamine before their sexual encounters to heighten his experience.
Jones said he later saw the man on television identified as Haggard and that the two last had sex in August.
He said he has voice mail messages from Haggard, as well as an envelope he said Haggard used to mail him cash. He declined to make the voice mails available to the AP, but KUSA-TV reported what it said were excerpts late Thursday that referred to methamphetamine.
"Hi Mike, this is Art," one call began, according to the station. "Hey, I was just calling to see if we could get any more. Either $100 or $200 supply."
A second message, left a few hours later, began: "Hi Mike, this is Art, I am here in Denver and sorry that I missed you. But as I said, if you want to go ahead and get the stuff, then that would be great. And I'll get it sometime next week or the week after or whenever."
Haggard was appointed president of the evangelicals association in March 2003. He has participated in conservative Christian leaders' conference calls with White House staffers and lobbied members of Congress last year on
U.S. Supreme Court appointees after
Sandra Day O'Connor announced her retirement.
After Massachusetts legalized gay marriage in 2004, Haggard and others began organizing state-by-state opposition. Last year, Haggard and officials from the nearby Christian ministry Focus on the Family announced plans to push Colorado's gay marriage ban for the 2006 ballot.
At the time, Haggard said that he believed marriage is a union between a man and woman rooted in centuries of tradition, and that research shows it's the best family unit for children.
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Nickdfresh
11-03-2006, 04:34 PM
LOL Yeah, I'm gonna try Meth today, because, "I'm curious!"
And he wanted a massage from a dude, a gay prostitute no less? Um, okay...
If I ever call to get a massage, it's from a small Korean girl!
If the guy was only "curious" about trying meth, couldn't he find someone else to get it from than a gay prostitute????
DrMaddVibe
11-03-2006, 05:01 PM
He could've called Eddie!!!!
LoungeMachine
11-03-2006, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
He could've called Eddie!!!!
Okay, pretty funny.
Gotta hand one to AssVibe:D
What EVANGELICAL "christian" father of 5
SUDDENLY GETS CURIOUS ABOUT TAKING METH??????????
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
How long before Satan comes up?
Nickdfresh
11-03-2006, 06:31 PM
Well, there is a theme of methamphetamine helping people to make really bad decisions, isn't there?
LoungeMachine
11-03-2006, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Well, there is a theme of methamphetamine helping people to make really bad decisions, isn't there?
Sure.
It's commonly known as Hagaritis.
Not to be cuntfused with Halitosis
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Nitro Express
11-04-2006, 12:52 AM
The religiouse right is full of gulliable people who will follow anyone who tells them what they want to hear. Evangelicalism is some of the oldest snake oil peddled in America. Nothing really new here. You would think people would finally wise up to it by now.
Pastor Ted's favorite scripture:
"...Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me... - Psalm 23:4
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Little Texan
11-04-2006, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by FORD
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Looks like that dude that played on "American Pie"...
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LoungeMachine
11-04-2006, 11:01 AM
Ken Mehlmen has got be getting nervous these days.....
He knows he's next.
LoungeMachine
11-04-2006, 09:01 PM
Nov. 4, 2006, 6:49PM
Evangelical dismissed amid sex scandal
By KIM NGUYEN Associated Press Writer
© 2006 The Associated Press
RESOURCES
Mike Jones says he has no regrets about his decision to come forward with the allegations. COURTESY Mike Jones, man accusing the Reverend Ted Haggard of paying for sexual encounters and drugs, in interview. Mike Jones says he has no regrets about his decision to come forward with the allegations. COURTESY: N-B-C's `Today' show Video Report COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. — The Rev. Ted Haggard was dismissed Saturday as leader of the megachurch he founded after a board determined the influential evangelist had committed "sexually immoral conduct," the church said Saturday.
Haggard had resigned two days earlier as president of the National Association of Evangelicals, where he held sway in Washington and condemned homosexuality, after a Denver man named Mike Jones claimed to have had drug-fueled trysts with him.
"Our investigation and Pastor Haggard's public statements have proven without a doubt that he has committed sexually immoral conduct," the New Life Church's Overseer Board said in a statement.
Haggard was "informed of this decision," the statement said, and he "agreed as well that he should be dismissed."
Haggard, 50, on Friday acknowledged paying Jones for a massage and for methamphetamine, but said he did not have sex with him and did not take the drug.
The statement from the 14,000-member church the investigation would continue, to determine how extensive Haggard's misconduct was. The Rev. Mike Ware of Victory Church in Westminster, a member of the independent board, declined to characterize what investigators found.
Haggard did not answer his home or mobile phones Saturday, and neither phone was accepting messages. Jones did not return a phone message seeking comment.
The Rev. Ross Parsley will lead the church until a permanent replacement for Haggard is chosen by the end of the year, the statement said. A letter explaining Haggard's removal and an apology from him will be read at Sunday services.
Haggard's situation is a disappointment to Christian conservatives, whom President Bush and other Republicans are courting heavily in the run-up to Tuesday's election.
Many of them were already disheartened with the president and the Republican-controlled Congress over their failure to deliver big gains on social issues even before the sex scandal broke involving former GOP Rep. Mark Foley.
Haggard, who had been president of the evangelical association since 2003, has participated in conference calls with White House staffers and lobbied Congress last year on Supreme Court nominees.
Haggard visited the White House once or twice, Deputy Press Secretary Tony Fratto said Friday.
James Groesbeck, a church elder, said he was glad the investigative board acted quickly.
"I'm saddened by what came out, but I think they've done their job," Groesbeck said by telephone. Church members are drawing strength from one another and are caught up in the activity, but that likely will change, he said.
"I think it's going to be really difficult in a week or two," Groesbeck said.
Jones, who said he is gay, said he was upset when he discovered who Haggard was and found out that the New Life Church had publicly opposed same-sex marriage _ a key issue in Colorado, with a pair of issues on Tuesday's ballot.
"It made me angry that here's someone preaching about gay marriage and going behind the scenes having gay sex," Jones said.
Jones also said Haggard snorted methamphetamine before their sexual encounters to heighten his experience.
Haggard told reporters he bought meth but never used it; he said he received a massage from Jones after being referred to him by a Denver hotel. Jones said that no hotel referred Haggard and that he advertises only in gay publications.
In a TV interview this week, Haggard said: "Never had a gay relationship with anybody, and I'm steady with my wife, I'm faithful to my wife."
Church member Christine Rayes, 47, said the congregation had hoped the allegations "were all lies."
"We all have to move forward now," she said. "This doesn't make what Ted accomplished here any less. The farther up you are, the more you are a target for Satan."
LoungeMachine
11-04-2006, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Nov. 4, 2006, 6:49PM
Evangelical dismissed amid sex scandal
The farther up you are, the more you are a target for Satan."
OKAY, WHO HAD 11.04.06 6:49 PM???
:D :D :D
Pastor Ted also starred in "Jesus Camp"
Check this shit out....
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Nickdfresh
11-04-2006, 10:46 PM
He also seems to enjoy "prostletizing" to very young people. Creepy.
DEMON CUNT
11-05-2006, 12:51 PM
Rev. Haggard video update at Crooks and Liars.
It's official, he's queer just like all of the Roth Army homophobes and Clay Aiken fans.
Haggard Changes His Story Again (http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/11/05/haggard-changes-his-story-again/)
LoungeMachine
11-05-2006, 12:55 PM
A Lying, Hypocritical Evangelist?
What were the odds?
Nickdfresh
11-05-2006, 12:59 PM
He put him mouth on his pipe, but he didn't inhale.
This is a prime example of how destructive the right wing dogma is. Now this fuckwad's wife and kids have to pay for his lifelong lie and inability to live honestly as who he is, a homosexual. And considering they had 5 kids, I'm guessing he didn't use protection with his wife, which exposes her to any number of other possibilities.
Sad fucking mess all around.
4moreyears
11-05-2006, 03:02 PM
Why is this a republican issue? He is not a politician.
DEMON CUNT
11-05-2006, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by 4moreyears
Why is this a republican issue? He is not a politician.
This is about the republican anti-gay, anti-freedom agenda.
Just because Haggard "is not a politician" does not mean that he did not engage in politics. He pushed a political agenda from the pulpit.
http://static.crooksandliars.com/2006/11/haggerd-bush.jpg
Another right-wing hypocrite gets exactly what he deserves.
All of you anti-gay conservatives are suspect.
Originally posted by 4moreyears
Why is this a republican issue? He is not a politician.
If he calls the White House every Monday and talks to the Chimp, he's a politician.
Just as Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, John Hagee, James Dobson, and the rest of those fundagelical freaks are politicians.
LoungeMachine
11-05-2006, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by 4moreyears
Why is this a republican issue? He is not a politician.
OMG:rolleyes:
It helps if you know what you're talking about prior to posting.......
This guy is every bit a Right-Wing Politician.
Do some research :cool:
Download Pastor Ted's new hit gospel single Meth and Man Ass (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/video/methandmanass.mp3) here! :D
Hardrock69
11-06-2006, 01:51 AM
LMFAO!
I heard this today.
That worthless cocksucker.
For him to think he could so something like that and get away with it.
Shit....that fucker is stupid.
And now, the bastard's entire family and all his friends are going to divorce his fucking ass.....
Imagine his kids at the Christian Academy....you know how kids are....all their classmates will be asking
"Is it true your dad sucks cock????"
That is enough to fry any kids brain.
Fuck that sack of shit. He got what was coming to him.
Divine Justice, I say.....
:cool:
4moreyears
11-06-2006, 09:20 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
OMG:rolleyes:
It helps if you know what you're talking about prior to posting.......
This guy is every bit a Right-Wing Politician.
Do some research :cool:
I think he was a pastor. Possibly a supporter of the republican party but I was not familar with him winning any election for public office.
4moreyears
11-06-2006, 09:23 AM
Originally posted by FORD
This is a prime example of how destructive the right wing dogma is. Now this fuckwad's wife and kids have to pay for his lifelong lie and inability to live honestly as who he is, a homosexual. And considering they had 5 kids, I'm guessing he didn't use protection with his wife, which exposes her to any number of other possibilities.
Sad fucking mess all around.
I would not say it is the right wing dogma that is the problem. It is the choices this individual made. I agree he is a dip shit and fucked up his family life beyond repair. I read his wife is sticking by him which does not suprise me.
LoungeMachine
11-06-2006, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by 4moreyears
I think he was a pastor. Possibly a supporter of the republican party but I was not familar with him winning any election for public office.
One does not need to hold elective office to be cuntsidered a "politician" or in politics.
KKKarl Rove is a politician
Jesse Jackson is a politician
If you have weekly converstaions with POTUS regarding the Evangelical Base of The Republican Party you're a "politician"
Don't pretend otherwise. :cool:
Originally posted by 4moreyears
I would not say it is the right wing dogma that is the problem. It is the choices this individual made.
Depends on what you mean by "choices". If you're repeating the ridiculous myth that sexual orientation is a "choice", then that is especially ridiculous in this case. Clearly Pastor Ted, as a right wing fundagelical would "choose" not to be gay, if he were capable of making that choice. Obviously he tried to do just that, by attempting a heterosexual life which, until last week, he seemed to be getting away with, in the eyes of most people.
But it doesn't matter. In the end (pardon the pun) he was still a gay man who hated himself so much he had to take drugs to deal with his true self, which even now he labels as "dark and repulsive". And now he's not only fucked up his own life, but that of 6 other people (the wife and kids) who weren't given the choice of whether or not to have a self-hating self-destructive father/husband. Not to mention 14,000 or so people who considered him to be some sort of spiritual leader.
I'd like to believe something positive might come out of this whole thing, like maybe this church having a more realistic attitude towards gays, but somehow I doubt it.
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