When does rock become metal?

[binnie]

What's the borderline?

There are a lot of bands that get called metal that aren't.

And there are also a lot of "heavy" bands that you might not call metal.

So what defines the term "metal", how do you know what it is.

Discuss.

[Panamark]

Both have distorted guitars..
So it comes down to the Drum beat..

One explanation.

[Panamark]

Its a very grey border, I can think of songs that could
be called either..

[binnie]

The drum beat?

How do you mean?

[binnie]

Cheers DT!

That's pretty exhaustive....

[Matt White]

"When does rock become metal?"

It depends on how much Heat & Pressure is applied to the rock......................

[binnie]

Originally posted by Matt White
"When does rock become metal?"

It depends on how much Heat & Pressure is applied to the rock......................

Ha! You got me!

[Matt White]

A Cha-cha cha®!!!

[DrMaddVibe]

Re: When does rock become metal?

Originally posted by binnie
So what defines the term "metal", how do you know what it is.

When it goes to 11.

[Douglas T.]

Did ya see the mention of DAVE under:
"[edit] Rock diversifies in the 1980s"

Originally posted by binnie
Cheers DT!

That's pretty exhaustive....

[Terry]

Poison, Trixter, Van Hagar, Def Leppard, Bon Jovi, Winger, Extreme, Warrant, Motley Crue, Dokken - pop rock

Ozzy Osbourne, Van Halen, Scorpions, AC/DC, Black Sabbath, Dio - hard rock

Venom, Megadeth, Motorhead, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest - heavy metal

[Mr. Vengeance]

Fucking Matt White beat me to that joke......BASTARD!!!!!

[Mr. Vengeance]

There are so many different categories in music....Some people would say that Priest and Maiden aren't metal, because they think metal is only bands like Slayer and Venom and bands that are O.T.T. in their pounding.

Jesus, rock, classic rock, hard rock, metal, thrash, death, whatever...if it rocks it rocks.....

[PumpedUpMidget]

Originally posted by Terry
Poison, Trixter, Van Hagar, Def Leppard, Bon Jovi, Winger, Extreme, Warrant, Motley Crue, Dokken - pop rock

Ozzy Osbourne, Van Halen, Scorpions, AC/DC, Black Sabbath, Dio - hard rock

Venom, Megadeth, Motorhead, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest - heavy metal

Great points, but Ozzy and the Scorpions belong in the 'pop' category, which could be classified as gay rock

[rustoffa]

Blue Cheer

Blue Cheer, named after their friend Stanley Owsley’s special brand of Acid tabs, formed in late 1967.
They came from San Francisco. They made raucous, frantic slabs of greasy noise, took trips by the truckload and hung around with Hell’s Angels. They used the basic heavy psychedelic blues format of Hendrix and co, added giant, heavily discordant guitar workouts and a pounding, overdriven bass, then played it all at full blast. Vincebus Eruptum is a 60s Rock Classic. It spawned a Top Ten hit in America (Summertime Blues) and the album itself reached no# 10, selling over a million copies in the US alone. Legend has it that whilst recording their second album, "Outsideinside", they were so loud they blew up the studio monitors and the album could only be completed with the band playing outside. They were friends with and played on the same bill as Jimi Hendrix Experience, The Pink Floyd, Janis Joplin and The Grateul Dead amongst many, These dates (Blue Cheer’s first ever UK tour) should appeal to all fans into bands from Motorhead to Pearl Jam, Nirvana to Chilli Peppers, all who cite Blue Cheer as an influence.
Founder members DICKIE PETERSON & PAUL WHALEY + DUCK McDONALD

NOVEMBER
Wed 19 BRIGHTON Concorde 2
Thu 20 SOUTHAMPTON The Brook Fri 21
Sat 22 BRISTOL Thekla
Sun 23 CREWE Limelight
Mon 24 Tue 25 WOLVERHAMPTON Robin 2
Wed 26 SHEFFIELD Boardwalk
Thu 27 LONDON Borderline

“They preceded Black Sabbath, Deep Purple…in fact all of the pioneers of metal and hard rock. That’s how significant Blue Cheer is” – Classic Rock
“The Californian power trio are justly revered for their part in inventing the genre currently known as stoner rock” – Uncut Magazine
“Blue Cheers proto-grunge style makes them sound more relevant than ever” – Mojo
“The new generation of garage riffers might be astonished to hear how grandpa used to rock” - Q Magazine