China build up seen aimed at U.S. ships

[ULTRAMAN VH]

China buildup seen aimed at U.S. ships
By Bill Gertz
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
November 22, 2006


China's military buildup includes new missiles and naval weapons designed to sink U.S. aircraft carriers and deny U.S. forces access to the Asia-Pacific region, a congressional commission official said yesterday.
Daniel Blumenthal, a former Pentagon defense policy-maker and now a member of the U.S.-China Economic Security Review Commission, said China's military is building up forces to "deny the United States the use of the commons -- the sea, the air, cyber and space."
"The Chinese have been quite successful ... in the area of sea denial, meaning that if we sent a carrier to or outside the [Taiwan] Strait as we did in 1996, it would be a lot riskier and a lot costlier to the United States," Mr. Blumenthal said at a conference held at the Heritage Foundation.
The comments followed disclosure last week that a Chinese submarine sailed undetected to within five miles of the aircraft carrier USS Kitty Hawk near Okinawa, Japan, and surfaced close enough to fire wake-homing torpedos or anti-ship cruise missiles, according to U.S. defense officials.
The Navy said in response to the surprise encounter that it is reviewing anti-submarine warfare defenses for the carrier battle group. The carrier was engaged in exercises when the Song-class submarine surfaced Oct. 26.
China's government denied that the submarine encounter took place, but Adm. Gary Roughead, commander of the Navy's Pacific Fleet, said Friday in Beijing that Chinese military leaders he met told him the submarine was in international waters when it was near the carrier.
Mr. Blumenthal, commenting on the release of the China commission's latest annual report, said Chinese weapons include 10 different types of ballistic and cruise missiles and up to 800 missiles aimed at Taiwan, five different types of submarines and 15 types of new warships.
"This is a very concerted and sophisticated, diversified effort to build up a military whose goal is the United States and its ability to meet its own commitments and interests," he said.
Beijing's military also is experimenting with new attack concepts, including land-based attacks on ships "through multiple entry concepts" in what Mr. Blumenthal called "a very serious effort to try to basically sink a carrier or battle group."
The commission report, while mainly focused on economic issues, included a chapter on China's military that said China's military buildup is closing a gap with U.S. forces. The trend shows "a window of vulnerability for the United States between 2008 and 2015" before newer U.S. weapons are fielded, the report continued.
The report revealed that China's new DF-21C ballistic missile is being configured with a guidance system that will allow it to attack ships at sea and defeat shipborne missile defenses. The "development efforts are being pursued vigorously," it stated.
The report stated that China's warships and submarines could delay the arrival of U.S. Navy forces called on to defend Taiwan, but they lack integrated command and control needed for "effective joint targeting of a carrier battle group."

www.washtimes.com

[ULTRAMAN VH]

It looks like China will not only own us monetarily, but dominate us militarily also.

[Nickdfresh]

They have been developing some nasty anti-ship missiles for years:

The SSN-22 Sunburn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS-N-22)

But the people that obsess over this stuff the most always fail to mention that the Chinese also own over a trillion dollar$ in American assets, and oh yeah, make everything sold at Wal-Mart...

[ULTRAMAN VH]

There will come a time when China no longer needs us and when that time comes look out!! There was a time when foreign countries would look to America for a good education, but now China is building universities like we build McDonalds. The only thing that China has a problem with is providing energy to support their large overpopulated society. Pollution from all the industrial growth is also a concern. Just recently rivers were affected in Russia by chemical spills due to China's chemical plants.

[FORD]

You can thank the BCE for selling this country out to China.

When Nixon was applauded in 1973 for "opening" China, the man who actually did the work was none other than Ambassdor (and CIA operative) George HW Poppy Bush. And while Poppy was there, he made a few deals on behalf of himself and the BCE. He's followed up on those deals and added to them ever since, first through his brother, Prescott Bush Jr, who was the chairman of something called the "US - China Chamber of Commerce" and later through the Carlyle Group, the CIA "business" front which has billions of investments tied up in Communist China.

Just another fine example of BCE treason...........
http://www.usccc.org/newhome/mem-8.jpg
Ex president George Bush Sr., Siva Yam, President of Us-China Chamber of Commerce and Prescott Bush Jr., Chairman

[ULTRAMAN VH]

Well there is no question, that the elites are selling this country right out from under us. Between China and our open borders with Mexico, it is just a matter of time.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
Well there is no question, that the elites[ BushCO/BCE/RNC] are selling this country right out from under us. Between China and our open borders with Mexico, it is just a matter of time.

And you voted for them.

Well done. :rolleyes:

[ULTRAMAN VH]

Clinton Gave China Chips for Nuclear War
Charles R. Smith
Wednesday, Oct. 1, 2003
Newly declassified documents show that President Bill Clinton personally approved the transfer to China of advanced space technology that can be used for nuclear combat.
The documents show that in 1996 Clinton approved the export of radiation hardened chip sets to China. The specialized chips are necessary for fighting a nuclear war.

"Waivers may be granted upon a national interest determination," states a Commerce Department document titled "U.S. Sanctions on China."

"The President has approved a series of satellite related waivers in recent months, most recently in November, 1996 for export of radiation hardened chip sets for a Chinese meteorological satellite," noted the Commerce Department documents.

These special computer chips are designed to function while being bombarded by intense radiation. Radiation hardened chips are considered critical for atomic warfare and are required by advanced nuclear tipped missiles.

Judicial Watch obtained the documents through the Freedom of Information Act, a Washington-based political watchdog group.

Several documents were withheld from release by the U.S. Commerce Department for commercial and personal privacy exemptions, but none of the documents were withheld for national security reasons. Judicial Watch is expected to appeal the withholdings.

Decade of Betrayal

U.S. intelligence sources stated that the newly released documents illustrate the extent to which the Clinton White House placed trade – and trade with China specifically – above national security.

"In all likelihood we will be glowing in the dark before we discover the true extent of the Clinton decade of betrayal," stated Rick Fisher, Asian Security Fellow at the Center for Security Policy.

"If it was indeed intended for a new PRC weather satellite, then it is possible that it was used for their new polar orbit weather satellites. This is significant because the Chinese themselves acknowledge that their polar orbit weather satellites directly contribute to their long-range missile targeting capability. This becomes even more important for their new smaller but more accurate warheads, used on their new DF-31, DF-31A, DF-5 Mod2 and JL-2 missiles. If they encounter significant weather, warhead accuracy degrades, reducing their utility," stated Fisher.

"Inasmuch as similar U.S. military weather satellites perform the same missions, the Clinton Administration had to have known they were assisting a PLA strategic military capability," concluded Fisher.

In addition, the Chinese military is clearly interested in acquiring advanced radiation hardened computer chips for its strategic nuclear arsenal.

U.S. Chips for PRC Nukes

Currently, China has only liquid fueled, long-range missiles, and the majority of them are based inside underground silos. These long-range rockets are reported to be "bore-sighted" – meaning the underground silos are aimed directly at target cities inside the United States.

The Chinese army is now attempting to shift its strategic nuclear arsenal to a solid-fuel "launch on command" capability. These new missiles are rail- and road-mobile and require sophisticated electronic guidance systems to accurately strike their intended targets.

As part of this upgrade, the Chinese army is also modifying its nuclear warhead designs to arm new survivable missiles such as the DF-31 and JL-2. Chinese engineers are planning to equip these new missiles with MIRV technology, allowing each missile to carry multiple nuclear warheads.

Again, the U.S. radiation hardened computer chip technology is a logical addition to the reconfiguration and upgrade of Chinese nuclear weapons.

Stolen U.S. Chips

Another critical element of the Clinton-supplied waiver is the fact that it took place during an investigation of Chinese espionage into missing U.S. radiation hardened satellite chips.

In February 1996, a Chinese Long March rocket carrying a Loral Intelsat satellite failed and crashed on lift-off. The Loral Intelsat payload was badly damaged. The Chinese intended to launch the Loral satellite into deep space as they had been paid to do by Loral CEO Bernard Schwartz.

However, fate took a twisted path, and so did the Chinese rocket. The Long March rocket failed on launch and crashed into a nearby Chinese village, killing over 200 innocent civilians. The failure of the Long March allowed the U.S. to recover the sealed satellite guidance box, which revealed the control board of radiation-hardened chips was missing.

The missing board from the Loral Intelsat satellite is no mystery. It quickly became obvious that Chinese engineers removed the special electronics and kept the board for examination. The stolen Loral electronics consist of radiation hardened, encrypted telemetry chips, stored in a secure flight control box similar to those found on airliners. The NSA changed all U.S. satellite codes as a result of the stolen Loral chips, costing American taxpayers millions of dollars.

1996 Illegal Campaign Donations

Another factor involved in the November 1996 waiver issued by then-President Clinton is the fact that illegal money entered the U.S. elections from the Chinese army. The money was donated to the DNC from a variety of sources including convicted Chinagate figures John Huang, Charlie "Yah-Lin" Trie and Johnny Chung.

The 1996 Clinton-Gore campaign readily accepted much of the money from the Chinese army sources without question, and in some cases took these donations in cash. The allegations of Chinese espionage and illegal campaign donations were never investigated properly.

The successful effort by China to obtain U.S. microchip technology included espionage, sabotage and perhaps bribery. The red intelligence windfall freed the Chinese army to more accurately target American cities with atomic weapons using advanced U.S technology.

The legacy that President Clinton left for the 21st century is a modern Chinese army equipped for global nuclear war.

www.newsmax.com

Yeah, the Dumbocrats are talking tough about China now, but the Big Dog sure liked them. Lets face it when it come to money, members of both parties would sell their mothers if it meant acquiring more power and prestige.

[ULTRAMAN VH]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
And you voted for them.

Well done. :rolleyes:

Ahh!!! altering posts again. I see nothing has changed here. Keep up the great work there, Mighty Mod!!!! Lounge Waitress is a legend in her own mind.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
Clinton Gave China Chips for Nuclear War
Charles R. Smith
Wednesday, Oct. 1, 2003
Newly declassified documents show that President Bill Clinton personally approved the transfer to China of advanced space technology that can be used for nuclear combat....

www.newsmax.com

Yeah, the Dumbocrats are talking tough about China now, but the Big Dog sure liked them. Lets face it when it come to money, members of both parties would sell their mothers if it meant acquiring more power and prestige.

My God you're a fuckwit! How many computers, and related technology, are made in China now? How much tech transfer under the Bush Admin has been made by American corps, and your still dredging three year old articles up from Newshax Ultradouche?

Dude seriously, do you write for The Onion? Your shit is just so unintentionally comical, this must be a troll of feigned stupidity!

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
Ahh!!! altering posts again. I see nothing has changed here. Keep up the great work there, Mighty Mod!!!! Lounge Waitress is a legend in her own mind.

WTF are you bleating about now?

I never altered any post, you fucking clueless moron. :rolleyes:

Can you ever make your own point on the thread topic, without copy-n-paste or whining about me?

You're really such a little sniveling pansie.

Fuck off, dolt.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
My God you're a fuckwit! How many computers, and related technology, are made in China now? How much tech transfer under the Bush Admin has been made by American corps, and your still dredging three year old articles up from Newshax Ultradouche?

Dude seriously, do you write for The Onion? Your shit is just so unintentionally comical, this must be a troll of feigned stupidity!


The guy is a fucking moron. He has no clue what the fuck he's even talking about.

And he can't debate without copy-n-paste. If he's 38 it's a sad day in American Public Education.

[ULTRAMAN VH]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
My God you're a fuckwit! How many computers, and related technology, are made in China now? How much tech transfer under the Bush Admin has been made by American corps, and your still dredging three year old articles up from Newshax Ultradouche?

Dude seriously, do you write for The Onion? Your shit is just so unintentionally comical, this must be a troll of feigned stupidity!

Nick, I see your still on a 6 month menstruation cycle. I still recommend some anger managment classes. And its okay, The Big Dog will return one day in all his heavenly glory with King Arthur, Jesus Christ and Gautama Buddha following close behind.

[ULTRAMAN VH]

Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
Well there is no question, that the elites[ BushCO/BCE/RNC] are selling this country right out from under us. Between China and our open borders with Mexico, it is just a matter of time.

Lounge, you didn't insert BushCO/BCE/RNC into my post???

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
Well there is no question, that the elites[ BushCO/BCE/RNC] are selling this country right out from under us. Between China and our open borders with Mexico, it is just a matter of time.

Lounge, you didn't insert BushCO/BCE/RNC into my post???



No shit, mensa.

IN PARENTHESIS.

Who were you refering to wjen you posted "ELITES SELLING THIS COUNTRY" ???

Bill Clinton and John Kerry? LMAO


Don't be such a dipshit.

Had I wanted to "alter" your post, I wouldn't have put it parenthesis in a quote form. I would have just editing your fucking post.

But I didn't. So quit your bitching.

Whiney ass little ferret.

[ULTRAMAN VH]

I was referring to both parties, and it is still to early in the game to give the Dumbocrats any credit on facing off with China. Time will tell the tale, and Fuck off Cockwhore.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by ULTRAMAN VH
I was referring to both parties, and it is still to early in the game to give the Dumbocrats any credit on facing off with China. Time will tell the tale, and Fuck off Cockwhore.


I now see why it's better for you to cut-n-paste.

This post is borderline Down's Syndrome.:confused:

[Nitro Express]

The rest of the world will grow technologically but that doesn't mean it has to be at our expense. The problem with the US is we have outsourced so much we are losing our manufacturing expertise. We will have a whole generation of people who have never made anything. Now tell me how you win a war on that?

We are selling our manufacturing equipment to China. With that loss we lose not only the tools of industry but the expertise of industry.

We are on the course of making the importer and distributor rich but everyone else poor as shit. A country of haves and have nots. China will just buy us and not fire a shot.