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  • flappo
    Banned
    • Jan 2004
    • 8013

    even the head of microsuck wants a mac



    "Here's the latest report from the Iowa antitrust litigation, Comes v. Microsoft, Inc., being held in Polk County District Court. We have excerpts from transcripts of Thursday's and Friday's sessions, including a 2004 email from Jim Allchin to Steve Balmer and Bill Gates in which he says Microsoft had lost sight of what customers need and that he himself would buy a Mac, if he didn't work for Microsoft.
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    xhibit 7264. Almost three years ago, on January 7, 2004, Jim Allchin, the senior executive at Microsoft, sent an E-mail to Microsoft's top two executives, Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer, and the subject was "losing our way."

    Mr. Allchin says, I'm not sure how the company lost sight of what matters to our customers, both business and home, the most, but in my view we lost our way. I think our teams lost sight of what bug-free means, what resilience means, what full scenarios mean, what security means, what performance means, how important current applications are, and really understanding what the most important problems our customers face are. I see lots of random features and some great vision, but that does not translate into great products. He goes on to say, I would buy a Mac today if I was not working at Microsoft.

    OUCH
  • Golden AWe
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jan 2004
    • 33627

    #2
    DOH!
    Originally posted by Cato
    Golden, why are you FAT?
    Originally posted by lesfunk
    Much like yourself as the Jim Morrison of Nazi bunker flies
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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 58754

      #3
      Considering that Mac's now have Intel processors and run Windows, they would be fools NOT to own one. The less buggy a Windows installation is on a Mac, the more copies of Windows will sell to Mac users.

      Haven't heard any reports yet on how Vista runs on the Mactel. Anyone else know of any reports on that?
      Eat Us And Smile

      Cenk For America 2024!!

      Justice Democrats


      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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      • Nitro Express
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 32794

        #4
        I installed Microsoft Office on my MacBook because I needed Excel but what overpriced shit it is. For wordprocessing and presentations I use Apple's Iwork.

        Microsoft still has $40 billion in cash and they aren't hurting but the whole personal computing world is changing and more and more people are discovering Apple. Once you get used to OS X, man, you're hooked. No more Ctrl, Alt, Del. No system crashes. If a piece of software locks up like some of the shitty Adobe stuff you go into the Finder and hit Force Quit. The opperating system shuts down the offending software application without needing a reboot.

        Doing graphics and photography is easy. Burning discs is easy. No port problems. Plug it into a firewire or USB port and it works.

        Why would I want a PC?
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • DrMaddVibe
          ROTH ARMY ELITE
          • Jan 2004
          • 6658

          #5
          Vista hasn't been released to the public yet.

          It is the buggiest software to date that I've ever had my hands on. The security is a JOKE!

          Stay away from this.
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          • Hardrock69
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Feb 2005
            • 21834

            #6
            I have it already. It is too available to the public.
            Or else I could not have gotten my grubby little hands on it.

            There are vast improvements over XP.

            But you won't be able to fully appreciate them until the first service pack comes out, and the millions of bugs are fixed.

            Fuck Microshaft.

            I will never pay another dollar to those fucking assholes, and will continue to encourage people to get it for free!

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            • DrMaddVibe
              ROTH ARMY ELITE
              • Jan 2004
              • 6658

              #7
              What you have is what I have and its not complete.

              I agree wholly about the patches(yeah...plural!), because they're going to be running hotfixes until the cows come homw with this.

              I have seen 2 very major corporations business plans with regards to IT and they're going Mac. One is slowly integrating the lower end Mac now and wait until the leases are up on the Dells and HP/Compaq crap is up.
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              • Satan
                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                • Jan 2004
                • 6663

                #8
                The Final Vista IS out there, because it was released to computer mfgs (Dell, Compaq, Gateway, etc) a few weeks back. These copies always get leaked to the net. Since Windows 95, I've never failed to find a final release at least 2 months ahead of their announced retail release date. It's also my firm belief that (just as it is with the record companies) these leaks are intentional, because Microsoft WANTS the new OS discussed and critiqued online, and the vulnerabilities talked about.

                It's all advertising and market research from their perspective, and a few people running the new Windows release for free beats the cost of whatever the "professional research" would cost them, and the results are probably more accurate, because we aren't being paid to kiss Micro$oft's ass.

                I doubt M$ will ever release a final product without any bugs. Why ruin a long established tradition?
                Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

                Originally posted by Sockfucker
                I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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                • DrMaddVibe
                  ROTH ARMY ELITE
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 6658

                  #9
                  I've had it for almost 2 months!

                  Fuck off frod!

                  You're way over your head in this department.
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                  • Satan
                    ROTH ARMY ELITE
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 6663

                    #10
                    Did I say WHEN I got it, AssVibe?

                    Let me put it this way..... I own Bill Gates' soul. Who do YOU think gets the first copy?
                    Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

                    Originally posted by Sockfucker
                    I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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                    • Dr. Love
                      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 7825

                      #11
                      They release the RTM version through MSDN... I've had it since it came out. Legally.
                      I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

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                      • Nitro Express
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 32794

                        #12
                        Vista is a joke. I think people are going to continue using Windows XP Pro for some time past the retail release of Vista.

                        I love how Microsoft tried to copy OSX even down to the little chess game Apple has.

                        The whole Vista project just goes to show how clueless and disfunctional Microsoft is.
                        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                        • MERRYKISSMASS2U
                          Full Member Status

                          • Mar 2004
                          • 4372

                          #13
                          Who doesn't!



                          I made the switch. Never looking back.

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                          • Nitro Express
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32794

                            #14
                            IT depts. have already dumped Microsoft's networking software preffering Linux instead. I have been running all Apple computers in my office on a simple network. No complaints. No system is 100% glitch free but one thing that is apparent. The engineers at Apple have thought things through pretty well. Apple has closed the price gap between the Mac and PC. OSX is more secure, more bug free, you still can run Windows if you want. I see the Apple appeal.
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                            • MERRYKISSMASS2U
                              Full Member Status

                              • Mar 2004
                              • 4372

                              #15
                              24 inch iMac here with not a single line of MS code on it. I also have a few home built machines. 1 is still fairly kick ass. It runs XP, but it's just a file server for the Mac. I use it for the occasional game too (it runs Oblivion ok)

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