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Nickdfresh
12-25-2006, 10:22 AM
Groups turn profit defending Christmas

By Stephanie Simon, Los Angeles Times | December 24, 2006

LOS ANGELES -- The "War on Christmas" has never been so profitable.

For the fourth year running, conservative Christian groups have spent much of December mobilizing against what they see as a liberal plot to censor Christmas. But this year, it's more than a cause. It's a huge fund-raiser.

The American Family Association, a conservative activist group, has rung up more than $550,000 in sales of buttons and magnets stamped with the slogan "Merry Christmas: It's Worth Saying."

Liberty Counsel, a nonprofit law firm affiliated with the religious right, has taken in more than $300,000 with its "Help Save Christmas Action Packs." The kits include two buttons, two bumper stickers, and "The Memo That Saved Christmas," a guide to defending overt religious expression, such as a nativity scene in a public-school classroom.

Also for sale through conservative websites: Christmas bracelets, tree ornaments and lapel pins intended to send a defiant message to those who would turn December into a multicultural mix of winter parties, seasonal sales, and Happy Holidays greetings.

Christmas warriors can also download -- for free -- lists that rank retailers as either "naughty" or "nice," depending on how often their ads refer to Christmas rather than a generic holiday.

"You're seeing people really wanting to take this battle forward," said Mat Staver, the president of Liberty Counsel, based in Orlando, Fla.

With minimal advertising on Christian radio stations, Liberty Counsel rang up more than 12,000 orders for a glossy copy of the legal memo (which is also available online for free). The minimum donation to get a packet was $25; many supporters kicked in more.

Staver's conclusion: "A lot of people have strong feelings about Christmas."

Apparently so. A Zogby International poll conducted last month found that 46 percent of Americans are offended when a store clerk greets them with "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas." More than a third of the 12,800 adults surveyed said they have walked out of a store or resolved to avoid it in the future because the clerks didn't show enough Christmas spirit.

"It's the whole peace-on-earth and goodwill-toward-man thing. It lifts us up when people can say 'Merry Christmas' without worrying about whether it's politically correct," said Jennifer Giroux, a Cincinnati entrepreneur. She began marketing rubber bracelets urging "Just Say 'Merry Christmas' " last December; this season, she has sold more than 50,000, at $2 apiece.

She plans to donate her profits to a Christian charity. "It's never been about the money," she said. "It's about the message."

But if the message can make money, so much the better.

Tim Wildmon, president of the American Family Association, said he was delighted with the revenue from "War on Christmas" merchandise, which supplemented the ministry's $13 million annual budget. All 500,000 buttons and 125,000 magnets were sold out by early December. "It was very successful for us," Wildmon said.

Liberty Counsel, too, rated the sale a success. "It did help with donations, but more than anything else, it helped with exposure," said spokeswoman Robin Bryant. She said the group has been able to add many new names to its mailing list for future fund drives. "It just ballooned," Bryant said.

In fact, the fund-raising went so well that the religious right plans to branch out. Next up: The war on Easter.

Scouts for the American Family Association, which is based in Tupelo, Miss., will keep a keen eye out for stores that promote "spring baskets" or "spring bonnets" instead of celebrating Christ's resurrection. The group already has laid in a stash of Easter buttons, bearing three gold crosses and the words "He Lives."

Link (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/12/24/groups_turn_profit_defending_christmas/)

Hardrock69
12-25-2006, 02:17 PM
If there is ANY possible way to make a buck off the name of Christ, it has to be Christians.

BigBadBrian
12-27-2006, 06:45 AM
Originally posted by Hardrock69
If there is ANY possible way to make a buck off the name of Christ, it has to be Christians.

You're just jealous, you hell-bound heathen. :cool:

bueno bob
12-27-2006, 08:27 AM
Originally posted by Hardrock69
If there is ANY possible way to make a buck off the name of Christ, it has to be Christians.

Then don't buy a button.

:)

VanHalener
12-27-2006, 08:41 AM
Another way to make money on Christmas is smashing the passenger window of my Explorer and taking the following:

CB Radio

Wallet inside console containing cash, drivers liscence, fishing liscence, hunting liscence, bank cards, etc...

Skinning knives from glove box

Walkie talkies from glove box

This occured 2 days before Christmas at one of my favorite fishing spots along the Bull Run River here in Virginia. I am fortunate that it was a smash and grab job that was done with speed, because I had weapons in the back that were covered and out of site.

Merry Chritmas bad guy. If Karma doesn't get you something else will.

bueno bob
12-27-2006, 08:55 AM
That's depressing.

You know, there's a HIGH increase in petty theft and other crimes around this time of year. I read an article about it in a paper a while back and the statistics are very revealing.

Probably because everybody gets fucking STRAPPED for cash when you have to keep up with the Jones and impress all your friends and family with how much money you spent on them...then the electric bill comes calling in the middle of winter and you're totally fucked...

Even myself, I'm right now playing a juggling act trying to figure out how to recover financially - we're two VERY gainfully employed adults and we still can't keep our heads above water when this time of year rolls around...fuck, with three kids, it's hard enough on a day to day basis as is, without all this other shit to pile on top of it...

Sad that people resort to that, though.

Christmas is just too much of a fucking commercialized institution...it's a holiday for the retailer, that's about it anymore.

Diamondjimi
12-27-2006, 11:39 AM
Originally posted by bueno bob
That's depressing.

You know, there's a HIGH increase in petty theft and other crimes around this time of year. I read an article about it in a paper a while back and the statistics are very revealing.

Probably because everybody gets fucking STRAPPED for cash when you have to keep up with the Jones and impress all your friends and family with how much money you spent on them...then the electric bill comes calling in the middle of winter and you're totally fucked...

Even myself, I'm right now playing a juggling act trying to figure out how to recover financially - we're two VERY gainfully employed adults and we still can't keep our heads above water when this time of year rolls around...fuck, with three kids, it's hard enough on a day to day basis as is, without all this other shit to pile on top of it...

Sad that people resort to that, though.

Christmas is just too much of a fucking commercialized institution...it's a holiday for the retailer, that's about it anymore.

No shit , I hear ya there.
Christmas (like every other yearly event) is waaay over commercialised. November 1st stores were pimping Christmas .Christ , the kids hav'nt even sorted their Halloween candy yet! Jeezuz...
I'm thinking next Christmas I'll just grab cards for everyone (except the kids).

twonabomber
12-27-2006, 12:27 PM
anyone who is dumb enough to leave a wallet in a vehicle gets no pity from me.

and what good is the fishing license in your wallet if your wallet is not on you? you'd get busted for that around here.

VanHalener
12-27-2006, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by twonabomber
anyone who is dumb enough to leave a wallet in a vehicle gets no pity from me.

and what good is the fishing license in your wallet if your wallet is not on you? you'd get busted for that around here.

I have to agree with you about the wallet man. I feel like a complete idiot. My intention was not to let my vehicle out of site, but I went too far away. The liscense for fishing is no big deal. If Johnny Law came by I would have had him walk up to my vehicle with me. The game wardens here know this old boy, so it's no big deal.

Anyway,

V2007H

bueno bob
12-28-2006, 05:41 AM
Originally posted by diamondjimi
No shit , I hear ya there.
Christmas (like every other yearly event) is waaay over commercialised. November 1st stores were pimping Christmas .Christ , the kids hav'nt even sorted their Halloween candy yet! Jeezuz...
I'm thinking next Christmas I'll just grab cards for everyone (except the kids).

We went to that a few years back. The adults in the family don't buy anything for each other any more (exception being between my wife and I, we still swap presents). Other than that, everybody just buys for the kids, and the only reason we even do that anymore is because it'd be mean not to....

ppg960
01-02-2007, 02:50 PM
We started pulling names a few years ago for the adults.
We still buy for the kids. The extended family is just getting to big.

Nickdfresh
12-24-2007, 03:02 PM
Bumpity prrrump!

thome
12-24-2007, 04:54 PM
Christmas is a idea, for the wonderment of childhood it doesn't matter who or how it is perverted by adults and thier nightmeres of reality.

All of the -Adults- who believe otherwise are the monsters I am talking about.

All of the ones ....who make it out ....to what is more. than what it is ....are the ones.... who believe it is more, than..... what it is.

(see first sentence above)^

Those are the ones who ruin christmas the ones who make it more about what it isn't .

(see sentence three above)^

bastardog
12-26-2007, 05:58 PM
Imagine if you have to celebrate another day like that on January 6.

well.... that's the case here you spend a lot of money for December 25 then it is january 6 and you have to buy stuff again for the same children.

Is enough to start to consider another religion....

FORD
12-27-2007, 05:48 AM
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bastardog
12-27-2007, 10:03 AM
OK jewish is not one religion to consider.....8 days of presents is worst.


by the way I had never saw South Park with Spanish subtitles before

Nickdfresh
11-27-2012, 11:48 AM
Bump!

Sensible Shoes
11-27-2012, 02:56 PM
Bump Bump.

FORD
11-27-2012, 03:03 PM
Barump a bump bump