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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10620

    The Hillary factor

    The Hillary factor
    By Cal Thomas
    Tuesday, January 23, 2007


    Fund-raisers on the left and right are salivating now that Sen. Hillary Clinton has declared, "I'm in" the 2008 presidential race. On the left, feminists will likely hail her as the reincarnation of suffragette Susan B. Anthony. On the right, conservatives will portray her as a cross between Lady Macbeth and Bonnie Parker.

    Conservatives should be careful. The nonstop attacks on Bill Clinton did not keep him from winning in 1992, nor did his personal scandals prevent his re-election four years later. Using similar smear tactics on Hillary Clinton will only turn her into a victim and cause many not predisposed to vote for her to support her.



    Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton waves after speaking about legislation to expand children's health care at a health center in New York, Sunday, Jan. 21, 2007. Clinton has embarked on a widely anticipated campaign for the White House Saturday, Jan. 20, 2007, a former first lady intent on becoming the nation's first female president. (AP Photo/Seth Wenig) Men can't run against a woman the way they run against other men. Former Republican Congressman Rick Lazio learned the double standard voters apply to a female candidate when he challenged her in 2000 for the New York Senate seat she now holds. During a debate, Lazio left his lectern and invaded her personal space to make a point. Many voters saw a man trying to physically intimidate a woman and Lazio lost the debate and the election.

    Some conservative Web sites are already claiming Sen. Clinton will unite the Republican base like no other Democratic candidate. Maybe, but that base is too small to counter what surely will be a surge in female voters. A recent USA Today/CNN/Gallup Poll found that six out of 10 women were likely to support Clinton in her run for the White House.

    A major advantage for Republicans is that Hillary is not her husband. She is aloof and calculating, while he can be warm and engaging. We have seen his temper - most recently in an interview with Fox's Chris Wallace - but we have only heard about hers. Will the public accept this kind of behavior from a woman who wants to be president? Will such behavior be seen as strength or character weakness?

    In an interview with the London Sunday Times, Clinton's campaign manager, Terry McAuliffe, compared her to former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. "Their policies are totally different," McAuliffe said, "but they are both perceived as very tough." Hillary Clinton and Margaret Thatcher are as different as Phyllis Schlafly and Gloria Steinem. Toughness in the pursuit of bad ideas is as unhelpful as weakness in pursuit of good ones.

    In her videotaped announcement, which emulated Sen. Barack Obama's announcement of his presidential candidacy last week, Sen. Clinton ticked off the issues about which she is ticked off, because she says the Bush administration has failed to deal with them. They include health care, Social Security, Medicare and Iraq. The Bush administration has attempted to address all of these, but Democrats have blocked any progress. It's an old political trick. You work against success and then blame failure on the president.

    The Clintons have a well-oiled political machine that neutralizes people who get in the way of their pursuit of wealth and power. Sen. Clinton sounded as if she is ready to haul out that machine again when she said, "I have never been afraid to stand up for what I believe in or to face down the Republican machine. After nearly $70 million spent against my campaigns in New York and two landslide wins, I can say I know how Washington Republicans think, how they operate, and how to beat them."

    Media reports speak of this being the most "diverse" presidential race ever with a woman, (Clinton), an African-American (Obama) and a Hispanic (New Mexico's Bill Richardson). But this is not ideological diversity, as all are liberals. This race shouldn't be about race, gender, or ethnicity, but ideas. The big media, so far, have tossed Sen. Clinton softball questions. Handlers have been able to get away with limiting questions to pre-approved subjects. The public will demand more from her and the media in a presidential campaign.

    There has never been a campaign like the one the country is about to experience. The focus should not be on gender or any other side issue, but on who is best qualified to defend the country against its many enemies, foreign and domestic.

    Look for the dirtiest, meanest and most costly presidential campaign in history in pursuit of the answer.
    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush
  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10620

    #2
    Re: The Hillary factor

    Originally posted by BigBadBrian


    Look for the dirtiest, meanest and most costly presidential campaign in history in pursuit of the answer.
    True enough.

    I've always liked Bill Richardson. I think he'd make a good POTUS. On the other hand, I'll listen to what Hillary has to say. I'm also favorable towards John McCain and Rudy Giuliani. One person I definitely won't vote for, though, is that ambulance chaser from NC.

    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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    • BigBadBrian
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Jan 2004
      • 10620

      #3
      Also....Obama

      He needs to get rid of that "Democratic Rock Star" schtick.

      I don't think the American public will take him seriously until he does.
      “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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      • Hardrock69
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Feb 2005
        • 21838

        #4
        Yes...alll KINDS of fund-raisers are drooling.....like this convicted cocaine smuggler who donated $20,000 to the Clinton campaign....



        The above photo was taken in front of the White House Christmas tree with Hillary and Clinton campaign donor Jorge Cabreras. Jorge is a convicted drug smuggler and friend of Fidel Castro. According to the New York Times, April 4, 1997, Jorge was solicited for his donation by a Democratic operative in the lobby of a hotel in Havana! The $20,000 check to the Clinton campaign came from an account linked to cocaine money. At the time the above photo was taken, Jorge had two felony convictions, but the Secret Service cleared him to enter the White House anyway.

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 58754

          #5
          Originally posted by BigBadBrian
          Also....Obama

          He needs to get rid of that "Democratic Rock Star" schtick.

          I don't think the American public will take him seriously until he does.
          When has Obama ever referred to himself as a "rock star"?

          What is he supposed to do about a label created by the whore media?

          They labeled Howard Dean a "rockstar" too. Even made him scream like one, by use of electronic trickery........
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

          Justice Democrats


          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • ELVIS
            Banned
            • Dec 2003
            • 44120

            #6
            Electronic trickery ??????

            You're an insane liar...

            Now, check out this pic from Lebanon today...




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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 58754

              #7
              Is that a Lebanese rap video?
              Eat Us And Smile

              Cenk For America 2024!!

              Justice Democrats


              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 58754

                #8
                Originally posted by ELVIS
                Electronic trickery ??????

                You're an insane liar...

                It's an established fact that the media whores took a direct feed from Dean's condenser microphone and isolated it, misrepresenting the scream as some sort of angry rant, rather than the reality of it which was Dean attempting to merely be heard above an excited crowd.

                The lies about Obama are even worse, implying that he's a terrorist just because of his name.
                Eat Us And Smile

                Cenk For America 2024!!

                Justice Democrats


                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                • ELVIS
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 44120

                  #9
                  Even if he's not a terrorist, his apparent ties to Islam are enough to do him in...

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                  • ELVIS
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 44120

                    #10
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                    • Guitar Shark
                      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 7576

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FORD
                      It's an established fact that the media whores took a direct feed from Dean's condenser microphone and isolated it, misrepresenting the scream as some sort of angry rant, rather than the reality of it which was Dean attempting to merely be heard above an excited crowd.
                      LMAO! It's also an "established fact" that you believe only what you want to believe.
                      ROTH ARMY MILITIA


                      Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                      Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 58754

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ELVIS
                        Even if he's not a terrorist, his apparent ties to Islam are enough to do him in...
                        Are YOU a terrorist just because Tim McVeigh, Eric Rudolph, and George Bush claim to be "Christians"??
                        Eat Us And Smile

                        Cenk For America 2024!!

                        Justice Democrats


                        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                        • ELVIS
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 44120

                          #13
                          McVeigh claimed to be catholic, Rudolph's father was catholic and President Bush is episcopalian...

                          What's your point, FORD ??

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 58754

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ELVIS
                            McVeigh claimed to be catholic, Rudolph's father was catholic and President Bush is episcopalian...

                            What's your point, FORD ??
                            You seem to be implying that all Muslims are "terrorists" just because of the actions of a few idiots. What if the same presumption were made about Christianity??

                            As for the Catholic and Espiscopalian thing, how is that any different than the fact that Bin Laden is a Wahabbi Muslim, a specific fundamentalist sect based in Saudi Arabia.

                            Would you imply that even all Catholics are terrorists, because of McVeigh, Rudolph, and a bunch of dorks in Northern Ireland?

                            And Chimpy actually claims to be a Methodist. Does that make my late grandmother a terrorist? (even though her church was literally built on the site of an old missile silo)
                            Eat Us And Smile

                            Cenk For America 2024!!

                            Justice Democrats


                            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                            • ELVIS
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 44120

                              #15
                              A crazy Methodist, is he ??...

                              Learn something everyday...


                              • The most frequent presidential denomination has been Episcopalian (11 presidents), followed by Presbyterian (6).

                              • Every president but one (the Catholic John F. Kennedy) has been Protestant.

                              • The most over-represented groups in the presidency, based on their percentage of the U.S. population, have been the Dutch Reformed Church and Unitarians.

                              • The most under-represented: Catholics and Baptists.

                              • Several major groups have never held the presidency: Jews, Mormons, Pentecostals, Muslims, Orthodox Christians.

                              • Only three presidents did not claim religious affiliation: Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, and Andrew Jackson.

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