should or shouldn't the VH/DLR reunion torch be lit?

[AlbertR]

For many years, the RothArmy has had a VH torch in place waiting to get lit when Dave returns to Van Halen. Well, on February 2nd, 2007 the official van-halen.com website officially announced that Dave had reunited with Van Halen. And yet the torch still remains unlit.


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The description of the torch says "When the Van Halen reunion is announced.. with David Lee Roth of course.. we will light the torch and the internet ablaze!"

There is no stipulation that it had to be all four original members. There was nothing said that no other members (i.e. Wolfgang) couldn't also join Van Halen. All it said that when the Van Halen reunion with David Lee Roth was announced that it would be lit.

I'd like this thread to focus on just one topic, should or shouldn't the VH/DLR reunion torch be lit? I've already stated why I think it should, are there good reasons you think it shouldn't?

[VHrocks]

Light It Up!

:D

[Panamark]

I say no becuase its not the original band,
that description assumed Mike would be part
of it..

But, technically I cant see why we cant...

Toss of the coin job...

Hey I was given the honour to ignite the fucker,
I want to do it !!!!!

This could still happen....

Feel free to let us know how you all feel...

[VHrocks]

I understand your sentiment Panamark, and I agree with you. But this may be the closest thing to a Classic Van Halen reunion we will ever see. Dave is back with Van Halen. Period.

:D

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by AlbertR
On February 2nd, 2007 the official van-halen.com website officially announced that Dave had reunited with Van Halen. And yet the torch still remains unlit.

The description of the torch says "When the Van Halen reunion is announced.. with David Lee Roth of course.. we will light the torch and the internet ablaze!"

There is no stipulation that it had to be all four original members. There was nothing said that no other members (i.e. Wolfgang) couldn't also join Van Halen. All it said that when the Van Halen reunion with David Lee Roth was announced that it would be lit.

I'd like this thread to focus on just one topic, should or shouldn't the VH/DLR reunion torch be lit? I've already stated why I think it should, are there good reasons you think it shouldn't?

Yes, because it's NOT a Van Halen reunion.

Van Halen IS:

DAVID LEE ROTH
EDWARD VAN HALEN
MICHAEL ANTHONY
ALEX VAN HALEN

Erego, this is NOT, I repeat, NOT a Van Halen reunion. And it will NOT be a Van Halen reunion until ALL FOUR OF THEM ARE PRESENT AND ACCOUNTED FOR.

What it IS is yet another in an endless series of ripoffs handed to you directly from the ass of Edward Van Halen, served up on a bright, shiny platter.

The plus side to it all is that summer is a LONG way away yet and anything can (and probably WILL) happen. IF, and I do mean IF Michael Anthony becomes involved in this, FIRE THE BITCH UP.

Until then, we are rightfully still waiting.

By your logic, Sammy Hagar could join on with the original four to play rhythm guitar and you'd still have to light the torch.

DON'T THINK SO.

[bru87tr]

this is a confusing topic......

it doesnt say all original members have to be together, yet, tht is what a reunion is.

considering what todays standards are for a reunion I say yes.


but to me.... the torch doesnt light until it is a true reunion. as far as I can tell. ed has not named this a reunion. my bet is dave told ed he doesnt want it called as such since he wont allow Mike in the band and in turn it is not a true reunion.


but a part of me says fuck it!!! these guys are old and I dont see another time when it could be lit. unless ed is just trying to get back at MA with the wolfie thing to teach him a lesson and then he is let in to announce a full blown reunion.

sorry I still dont believe the wolfie thing. he is 15yr old and have a hard time believing his mother would allow it.


I say wait till the middle of the tour and see what pans out. maybe they pull another tour later down the line with mike. one way or another I see him comin back in the fold.

either way, ed and dave are back with alex too and today, its good enough reason to light it. but, the sheep will always say its not a true reunion. if you have patience, wait to see if mike is really out.

something tells me this isnt over.

[MCMLXXXIV]

LIGHT IT UP!
Leave it to burn until the end of the tour...put it to rest.

FOREVER!:cry2:

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by Panamark
I say no becuase its not the original band,
that description assumed Mike would be part
of it..



That's exactly correct!

No

[jgdrag]

No,

Led Zep with Bomham's kid isn't Led Zep

To be lit when the VH Reunion announcement is made. Of course this is a "Dave Only" torch.

After reading this, it does say Dave only so it is a little confusing?

Ed,Al,Mike and spammy were Van Halen to some, Dave Al Ed Wolf are Van Halen right now.

Now where does it say original

Dave Ed and Al are reuniting and they are forming Van Halen

I think bassplayer wasn't even a thought when this was written therefore I now believe it should be lit. Reason, nothing is evr implied to mean the original

I say yes on a technicality, never assume anything

[Ddoc]

Van Halen IS NOT BACK TOGETHER! This will not be a Van Halen Reunion tour, it is a Van Halen FAMILY REUNION!

Yes, Dave is back (which is great!), but let's not call this a reunion tour.

Or better yet...let's call it a David Lee Roth reunion tour.

Webster's official definition of the word REUNION...A gathering of the members of a group who have been seperated.

So, I guess we will have to wait for another reunion tour at a later date with Michael Anthony and god know who else.

This whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth. While I will always love Van Halens original music, I can now say that I HATE this band.
You won't see me at the a show without MA...period!

[MCMLXXXIV]

Sobolewski overshadows Diamond Dave?

NEVER!

WTF

[Terry]

I voted no, because this really isn't what many of us wanted...

But if everyone else wants it lit, fine. Whatever, you know? It's pretty much either light it or get rid of it, because it is highly unlikely we're gonna see anything along these lines again after this year.

[bueno bob]

Sorry...but...it's really hard for me to get excited about Van Halen MK. IV...

[bueno bob]

Still going, though.

But grudgingly.

More like an obligation that a joy to witness...but...

[jgdrag]

Bob, this is as good as it gets, Dave is back with Eddie. They are going to crank the classics. You will never get any closer.
You should be cautious when proceding forward, at least we are moving forward away from the last 22 years of shit music that has tarnished the legacy. Here some of us sit pissed off, I say fuck that, Van Halen was never about being pissed off. I am going to try and enjoy this, not sure if it will be any good, but, unlike spammy and gary, this version I will give a listen to. But I will be cautious also, besides, we really don't know why Eddie is doing this? Control, perhaps, dying, perhaps? I can't really pass judgement without facts as to why bass player is not there. I say ROTH ON bro

[Don Corleone]

I'm tempted to say Light It. I think this is the best we're going to get.

[Shaun Ponsonby]

I don't know if it should or not.

A CUNTroversial topic, certainly.

[PHOENIX]

Light the fucking thing!

[Rikk]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Yes, because it's NOT a Van Halen reunion.

Van Halen IS:

DAVID LEE ROTH
EDWARD VAN HALEN
MICHAEL ANTHONY
ALEX VAN HALEN

Erego, this is NOT, I repeat, NOT a Van Halen reunion. And it will NOT be a Van Halen reunion until ALL FOUR OF THEM ARE PRESENT AND ACCOUNTED FOR.

What it IS is yet another in an endless series of ripoffs handed to you directly from the ass of Edward Van Halen, served up on a bright, shiny platter.

The plus side to it all is that summer is a LONG way away yet and anything can (and probably WILL) happen. IF, and I do mean IF Michael Anthony becomes involved in this, FIRE THE BITCH UP.

Until then, we are rightfully still waiting.

By your logic, Sammy Hagar could join on with the original four to play rhythm guitar and you'd still have to light the torch.

DON'T THINK SO.

BIN-FUCKING-GO

[hideyoursheep]

Originally posted by jgdrag
Dave Al Ed Wolf are Van Halen right now.
Now where does it say original
Dave Ed and Al are reuniting and they are forming Van Halen
I say yes on a technicality, never assume anything

I concur.

Diamond Dave is back with Van Halen

Dave is the greatest frontman to ever take the stage.

Van Halen is whatever Ed says it is.

Only when the prophecy has been fufilled with the curtain going up and the first show beginning will the reunion be complete.

Not yet,my freinds, not yet.

[vh rides again]

fuck that shit, that torch should stay unlit, till its the band vanhalen.
that sucker has been out for a long time and it would be a internet joke to light it.

[hideyoursheep]

Is this about Dave's return, or is it about all 4 original members?

Were The Who still the Who without the original drummer?

Were the Stones still the Stones without Brian Jones or Mick Taylor?

Were Black Sabbath still Black Sabbath without Ozzy?

Was Genesis still Genesis after Peter Gabriel?

Will Van Halen be Van Halen without Mike Anthony?

You bet your collective asses.

But they haven't played a note yet.

The past has shown us not to trust VH.

[AlbertR]

Originally posted by bueno bob
...By your logic, Sammy Hagar could join on with the original four to play rhythm guitar and you'd still have to light the torch.

DON'T THINK SO.

Unfortunately, the band Van Halen is whatever Ed says it is. We've all been waiting for David Lee Roth to be acknowledged as officilally returning to the band. Well, he has.

Yes, by my logic, if Dave returned to whatever Ed has called Van Halen, and the Hag gets on stage to play rhythm, then I would light the torch cuz my eyes & ears would be focused on the Diamond One.

You could add CHERone on flutophone to the lineup and I would still be excited that Dave had rejoined Van Halen.

No, I am not happy about Ed's decision with Mikey or Wolfie, but it is what it is. Diamond Dave has officially rejoined Van Halen. Light the torch.

[ElPatron]

I voted yes because this is a "Dave Only" torch...But...

"it's really hard for me to get excited about Van Halen MK. IV..."

[BrownSound1]

How's it going Albert, long time no see.

To be honest I don't even know what we're going to do about the torch. One side of me says light that bastard up, and the other side says not to. Perhaps it just needs to smoke a little. :D

[Romeo Delight]

Light it up!

I won't miss Mike's Bass solo one bit.

[Dan]

NO,not until All 4 members are back in Van Halen.

[party boy]

I don't think we should analyse every single fucking word of the "torch definition". It is about the spirit behind it.
We should all know the torch is about the 4 original members and not about getting as close as possible to it.

DON'T LIGHT IT, until it's officially DAve, Ed, Alex and Mike

[vhrothfan]

Light Up The Sky

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by Panamark
I say no becuase its not the original band,
that description assumed Mike would be part
of it..

Thats just an assumption. All it says is "When the Van Halen reunion is announced.. with David Lee Roth of course.. we will light the torch and the internet ablaze!"

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[bru87tr]

lighting it would be exciting.

I would have to say yes. these guys are getting old. this is it guys.


never lighting it may be a mistake. I like the idea of technical but with ed you never know.

I say light it. Mike might return anyway.

Dave & Ed are VH ayway.


light the fucking thing!!! :)

[bantonelli]

STRIKE THE MATCH and LIGHT UP THE SKY.......or remove the damn thing.

Take the Tour for what it's worth...or don't go.

This opportunity of Dave and Ed (with or without Mike) will happen twice in your lifetime....1st time happened, 2nd time is the charm.

Stri

[bru87tr]

Dave has reunited with VH.

this is what the front page says.


"To be lit when the VH Reunion announcement is made. Of course this is a "Dave Only" torch. "

this is a Dave site and a Dave Torch.


light the fucking thing!!!

[vhrothfan]

ON FIRE

[mott98]

This is as close as it will ever get, might as well plan on lighting it.

But I think it should be lit either on the eve of the RRHOF ceremony, or at the moment the band hits the stage on their first night on tour.

[vhrothfan]

No..it says when the reunion is announced with David Lee Roth it will be lit. That was yesterday.


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[bru87tr]

thats right!!!

[FORD]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
Thats just an assumption. All it says is "When the Van Halen reunion is announced.. with David Lee Roth of course.. we will light the torch and the internet ablaze!"



You don't know the history of the torch, Herpes Boy.

At the time the concept of the reunion torch was created, we were thinking we'd be hearing good news within 6 months.

Not 7 years later. And certainly, nothing involving a kid who was in fucking second grade at the time joining the band.

Nobody thought Eddie would boot Bassplayer out of the touring band (though he certainly didn't play on VDIII and God knows how many albums before that)

And even in the remote chance it happenned, one phone call to Billy Sheehan would take care of that.

I don't think there would be nearly as many doubting Thomases about this tour if it were Billy S. - or even James Lomenzo - named as the bassist for this tour, instead of a fucking kid going through puberty who - by dad's own admission - only started playing bass 3 months ago.

I'll be at the concert, but I'm not sure about the Torch. :(

[hideyoursheep]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
No..it says when I'm finished using the computer you can sanitize the keyboard and mouse. That was yesterday.


:uck:

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by FORD
You don't know the history of the torch, Herpes Boy.

At the time the concept of the reunion torch was created, we were thinking we'd be hearing good news within 6 months.

Not 7 years later. And certainly, nothing involving a kid who was in fucking second grade at the time joining the band.

Nobody thought Eddie would boot Bassplayer out of the touring band

I'll be at the concert, but I'm not sure about the Torch. :(

Well you thought wrong. Times have changed but the wording on when the torch will be lit is the same so it should be lit.

Oh yeah...you're still obsessing about my dick I see.

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by hideyoursheep
My nick name is hideyoursheep because I like screwing sheep to much.

:rolleyes:

[squib]

The sound that was Van Halen during the Dave era was 90% ED and Dave. I always thought it was great that the credit lines put the band as 4 equals, but of the four original members two could have been changed and although altered the sound and spectacle would have been basically the same. These two of course are Alex and Mike. Both made great contributions, but I think we could all picture the same success, the same fundamental music without them.

We saw how Dave's absence changed the sound at it's core, as would have a theoretical version of Van Halen with Ed being replaced but Dave staying, (Although EEAS does come awfuly close)

Mike and Al are role players, great role players, and every team needs them. But more often it is the strength of the team and it's strongest players that allows the role players a forum for what they do. It is simply fact that Ed and Dave are among the best ever at what they do. Do you fell the same for Al and Mike?

That being said I think it is a shame that this isn't a full reunion, and the songs will be missing just a little something without Mike, but (and excuse the expression) just a little ain't enough for me.

LIGHT THE GOD DAMN TORCH and if somehow Mike does come back in, then pour some hard alcohol on it and let it burn a little higher.

[ThrillsNSpills]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
:rolleyes:


Why don't you torch your eyebrow and pencil it back in later.

Hazel in unit #41 will help you.

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by ThrillsNSpills
Why don't you torch your eyebrow and pencil it back in later.

Hazel in unit #41 will help you.

I see you know alot about makeup retard.


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[Dr. Love]

It's not Van Halen without Michael Anthony. Or David Lee Roth. Or Alex Van Halen or Eddie Van Halen. Or with Wolfgang.

I was talking to a friend the other day, and he made the joke that if this keeps going, the fans may be able to see every possible combination of VH members with non-VH guests. :mad:

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
Thats just an assumption.


An "assumption" made by a Super Mod, member #24, who was the driving force behind the whole torch idea, you fucking STUMP.

:rolleyes:

STFU until you know WTF you're even talking about.

Stop eating the paint chips off the cafeteria walls.

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
An "assumption" made by a Super Mod, member #24, who was the driving force behind the whole torch idea, you fucking STUMP.

:rolleyes:

STFU until you know WTF you're even talking about.

Stop eating the paint chips off the cafeteria walls.

Why are you so bitter?


Van Halen Videos (http://www.vanhalenvideos.blogspot.com)

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
Why are you so bitter?



Because you breathe my air.

Please stop.

:cool:

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Because you breathe my air.

Please stop.

:cool:

That was cold. Were you a neglected child?



Van Halen Videos (http://www.vanhalenvideos.blogspot.com)

[DLRdelight!]

if all four original members play at rrhof then light it

[hideyoursheep]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
Were you a neglected child?

Your goddam posts scream child pretator.


:mad:

[vhrothfan]

If the torch isn't lit then it loses credibility. It says when the Van Halen reunion is announced with David Lee Roth it will be lit. Light the motherfucker or NEVER light it.


Van Halen Videos (http://www.vanhalenvideos.blogspot.com)

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by hideyoursheep
I'm a child predator.

Get some help.



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[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
If the torch isn't lit then it loses credibility.


ROTFLMMFAO

:D :rolleyes:

Priceless.

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
ROTFLMMFAO

:D :rolleyes:

Priceless.

Hey, you can laugh! Good for you.



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[hideyoursheep]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
Light the motherfucker or NEVER light it.

Says vhpusspants.

Right away, Your Infectedness. :moon:

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
Hey, you can laugh! Good for you.



You have no idea how much laughter you bring to people here.

:gulp:

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
You have no idea how much laughter you bring to people here.

:gulp:

Yes I do and it's always good to make someone laugh. Even if they are laughing at you.



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[Hyman Roth]

Mikey Anuszeuski - making eFriends everywhere he posts....

[The Truth]

It will never be lit.

And vhrothfan will never get laid.

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by The Truth

And vhrothfan will never get laid.

You are so wrong there. My girlfriend LOVES sex.

[The Truth]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
You are so wrong there. My girlfriend LOVES sex.


Yes.

With other men.

And your girlfriend is 84 and on life support.

[Hyman Roth]

Lying sack of shit.

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by Hyman Roth
My real name is Jason Davis and I love to suck cock.


:rolleyes:

[twonabomber]

Victor and Carol will not be pleased when they find out what Mikey has been up to.

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by twonabomber
Victor and Carol will not be pleased when they find out what Mikey has been up to.

More evidence for me!



Van Halen Videos (http://www.vanhalenvideos.blogspot.com)

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by Hyman Roth
Oh shit,I thought I still had the gay forum window open.


:rolleyes:

[vhrothfan]

I know where the stalker formerly known as twonabomber works. HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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[The Truth]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
I know where the stalker formerly known as twonabomber works. HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Do you see the irony in this statement?

[Brett]

So? What are you gonna stalk him in real life you crazy ass?

[twonabomber]

so what? i haven't posted any of this from work. you think i'm fuckin' stupid like you are?

what i do at home is none of their business. you still lose.

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by Hyman Roth
Oh shit,I thought I still had the gay forum window open.




Originally posted by Hyman Roth
Fuck it! I'm Jason Davis and I love sucking cock.


:rolleyes:

[Brett]

Originally posted by The Truth
Do you see the irony in this statement?

Wait he has to look it up on dictionary.com first.

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by twonabomber
so what? i haven't posted any of this from work. you think i'm fuckin' stupid like you are?

what i do at home is none of their business. you still lose.

I guess I have to resort to speaking to all of the stalker formerly known as twonabombers co workers if he keeps up this retarded shit.


Van Halen Videos (http://www.vanhalenvideos.blogspot.com)

[twonabomber]

LOL.

pick one of our twenty locations, Mikey, and try to find me. i'll give you a hint...my swipe badge does not say "twonabomber", you dumb shit.

[vhrothfan]

The stalker formerly known as twonabomber laughs now but by request he has no idea how much I know.


Van Halen Videos (http://www.vanhalenvideos.blogspot.com)

[twonabomber]

post up, bitch.

you could fill a book with what you don't know.

[vhrothfan]

Where did Jason Davis go? Oh,he's sucking cock.

[vhrothfan]

The stalker formerly known as twonabomber wants me to post my privileged information. What a retard.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
More evidence for me!

"David Lee Roth is gay" - you.

"David Lee Roth is a homosexual asshole" - also you.

There's some evidence.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
The stalker formerly known as twonabomber wants me to post my privileged information. What a retard.

No, he just wants you to stop posting period.

Not so hard to understand, if you stop to think about it.

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by bueno bob
"David Lee Roth is gay" - you.

"David Lee Roth is a homosexual asshole" - also you.

There's some evidence.

Yeah you got me there. Foward it to Dave so he can sue me.


Van Halen Videos (http://www.vanhalenvideos.blogspot.com)

[twonabomber]

i'm waiting for the phone to ring.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
Yeah you got me there. Foward it to Dave so he can sue me.

Hey, you wanted me to "show you the proof" - you got it.

And I'll keep reminding people of it, too.

:)

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Hey, you wanted me to "show you the proof" - you got it.

And I'll keep reminding people of it, too.

:)

You said I was pro Hagar. That doesn't prove that I am.


Van Halen Videos (http://www.vanhalenvideos.blogspot.com)

[twonabomber]

pro-Hagar, anti-Dave, same thing, dipshit.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
You said I was pro Hagar. That doesn't prove that I am.

You love Gary Cherone then?

Duh.

[bueno bob]

How stupid can somebody possibly be...

Jesus, Janus, quit playing the victim. You're a tried and true Roth basher from jump street. The evidence is from your own fingers, dumb ass.

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by Hyman Roth
Lying sack of shit.

Jason Davis sucks cock. Jason Davis sucks cock. Jason Davis sucks cock. Jason Davis sucks cock. Jason Davis sucks cock. Jason Davis sucks cock. Jason Davis sucks cock. Jason Davis sucks cock. Jason Davis sucks cock. Jason Davis sucks cock. Jason Davis sucks cock.Jason Davis sucks cock.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Hey, you wanted me to "show you the proof" - you got it.

And I'll keep reminding people of it, too.

:)


You should put it in your sig.

No wait, quotes in sigs is gay. :mad:

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
You should put it in your sig.

No wait, quotes in sigs is gay. :mad:

I was thinking you would... :)

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
Jason Davis sucks cock. Jason Davis sucks cock. Jason Davis sucks cock. Jason Davis sucks cock. Jason Davis sucks cock. Jason Davis sucks cock. Jason Davis sucks cock. Jason Davis sucks cock. Jason Davis sucks cock. Jason Davis sucks cock. Jason Davis sucks cock.Jason Davis sucks cock.


Repeating it over and over to yourself won't make it true.

But it will make you horny. :(

[twonabomber]

libelous statements from the guy who says "i don't play bingo, that's a libelous statement."

priceless.

[vhrothfan]

This is a great site to listen to CVH and the sound is very good.
http://www.sunriseautodetail.com/thevanhalencafe/main.html

Click on The Sound Room.
You can save every CVH album to your media player.

[vhrothfan]

Check out this streaming CVH show: http://www.sunriseautodetail.com/thevanhalencafe/video_of_the_month.htm


Van Halen Videos (http://www.vanhalenvideos.blogspot.com)

[vhrothfan]

Here's the link. http://www.sunriseautodetail.com/thevanhalencafe/main.html

www.thevanhalencafe.com

Click on The Sound Room.


Van Halen Videos (http://www.vanhalenvideos.blogspot.com)

[MERRYKISSMASS2U]

Absolutely.

[vhrothfan]

Well fuck, you might as well wait for them to reunite with the original bass player Mike Stone too before you light that worthless piece of shit. Someone smash that fucking thing.


Van Halen Videos (http://www.vanhalenvideos.blogspot.com)

[FORD]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
You are so wrong there. My girlfriend LOVES sex.

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....It's a brand new daaaaay....

[FORD]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
Someone smash that fucking thing.




.....Said Mamma Anusewski to the doctors after seeing infant Mikey's unibrow for the first time.

[Hyman Roth]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7020

http://www.jasondavismusic.com/

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396960

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0204771/

Which Jason Davis do you want to suck your cock?

[vhrothfan]

Are you having fun talking about my dick?

[vhrothfan]

Now Jason Davis wants to suck my cock but I'm not gay like him. He's going to be very disappointed.



Van Halen Videos (http://www.vanhalenvideos.blogspot.com)

[Hyman Roth]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
Check out this streaming CVH show: http://www.sunriseautodetail.com/thevanhalencafe/video_of_the_month.htm


Van Halen Videos (http://www.vanhalenvideos.blogspot.com)

Dumb fucker - we have all known about this site for years.

[Hyman Roth]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
Now Jason Davis wants to suck my cock but I'm not gay like him. He's going to be very disappointed.



Van Halen Videos (http://www.vanhalenvideos.blogspot.com)

Poor Jason Davis.

[vhrothfan]

I wonder whats going to happen next!?!?!?


Van Halen Videos (http://www.vanhalenvideos.blogspot.com)

[Hyman Roth]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
Are you having fun talking about my dick?

Are you having fun talking about a man sucking another man's dick?

[vhrothfan]

I really want to post all my privileged information but I cant.



Van Halen Videos (http://www.vanhalenvideos.blogspot.com)

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by Hyman Roth
I'm having fun talking about sucking dicks.

:rolleyes:

[Hyman Roth]

You have been scraping the internet for the most useless information about anyone and have posted it all. You even started and dedicated a blog to posting bullshit tidbits of useless information about DDLR mods and Brett. You went so far as to make up shit (like telling everyone my name is Jason Daviis, which it is not) because you couldn't find anything besides Von wairing a pair of orange shorts and twonabomber listening to Prince (as if there is something wrong with that).

And now you want everybody to believe that you have information on some of us but you can't post it because its "priviledged". Fucking please. Mikey - we are not as stupid as you are. We don't fall for your bullshit lies. Get a life you pathetic psycho.

[Hyman Roth]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
I have lots of herpes blisters and no friends. :(

:rolleyes:

[twonabomber]

Originally posted by Hyman Roth
You went so far as to make up shit (like telling everyone my name is Jason Daviis, which it is not) because you couldn't find anything besides Von wairing a pair of orange shorts and twonabomber listening to Prince (as if there is something wrong with that).



don't forget about my watch i've had since i was 4. :D

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by Hyman Roth
I'm Jason Davis and I love sucking cock and taking cock up my ass. Why? Because I'm Jason Davis damn it.


:rolleyes:

[twonabomber]

and Mikey, what's with all the posts at SFN all of a sudden?

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by Hyman Roth
I AM Jason Davis and I'm looking for fags to fuck me in the ass.


Originally posted by Hyman Roth
I fucked up again and forgot to close out the gay forum window. I'm Jason Davis and I'm a retarded fag.


:rolleyes:

[Hyman Roth]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
suck cock...cock ....cock...cock....cock up the ass....suck cock

hmmmm.....

[hideyoursheep]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
You are so wrong there. My girlfriend LOVES sex.

As long as it's with another person,hence the pimply pee-pee.:D

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by Hyman Roth
suck cock...cock ....cock...cock....cock up the ass....suck cock hmmmmmm...sounds so good because I'm Jason Davis.


:cool:

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by hideyoursheep
I have a midget pee-pee.:D


:rolleyes:

[vhrothfan]

OK,thats my show. Have a goodnight and don't forget to tip your waitress.


Van Halen Videos (http://www.vanhalenvideos.blogspot.com)

[Rikk]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
I wonder whats going to happen next!?!?!?

More twists and turns than a tourniquette.

[BUTTERS]

What a fucking retard.

[Roth & Roll]

Someone tell Bert and his unibrow to go back to Sesame Street.....Ernie is waiting.

[hideyoursheep]

:rofl: :tool:

Now see, If I were insecure,I would find that offensive.

Just get back in your cage and put down fresh newspaper.

[Roth & Roll]

http://upster1969.250free.com/erniebert2.jpg

[hideyoursheep]

AHHHHAHHHHHAAAHHAAHHAHAAA!

[Roth & Roll]

"Heeey Bert! You sleeping Bert?"


http://upster1969.250free.com/erniebert3.jpg

Get a job Bert instead of spreading herpes sucking dick all day in your apartment that we taxpayers are paying for.

Do SOMETHING about that unibrow for fucks sake Bert! There's fucking koala bears living in that thing!

[Hyman Roth]

HAAAAAA!

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by Roth & Roll
I beat off to this picture every night.


http://upster1969.250free.com/erniebert3.jpg


I have a infatuation with vhrothfan as you can see.

TMI

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by Hyman Roth
AAAAAAH! Thanks Roth And Roll. I just beat off to those Bert pics you posted. I'm Jason Davis and I'm a big fag.

:rolleyes:

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by hideyoursheep
AHHHHAHHHHHAAAHHAAHHAHAAA! Now those pics made me horny and I'm beating off now. Do you have any pics of sheep screwing?

TMI little Arnold. I don't want to hear about your midget dick.

[Dan]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
I wish My BoyFriend would put his hand up My Ass.

Have you asked him?

[Panamark]

http://upster1969.250free.com/erniebert3.jpg
Is Bert trying to fish out Rubber Duckie ???

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by Dan
I wish My BoyFriend would put his hand up My Ass.

Did you forget to close out the gay forum window?

[Dan]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
Herpes is getting me down again.

Have you told all of your BoyFriends about this?

Is that was you are Sad?

It's O.K to share that with us.

How many pills do you have to take a Day?

Is this the First time you have had Herpes?

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by twonabomber
Who cares about the torch. I have a torch for Prince. Check out a couple of my favorite Prince videos:http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43741

:rolleyes:

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by Dan
I have herpes in my ass from my boyfriend.

TMI :rolleyes:

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by Dan
After my boyfriend gave me herpes in my ass I sucked his dick and now I have herpes on my mouth.

That sucks Dan. You shouldn't be having sex with guys.



Diamond David Lee Roth (http://www.diamonddavidleeroth.blogspot.com)

[Panamark]

Dan, whatya doin here ? The fookin black caps are kickin butt !!!

[Dan]

Originally posted by Panamark
Dan, whatya doin here ? The fookin black caps are kickin butt !!!

Mate,I'm watching and posting at the same Time,Go The Black Caps.:)

[FORD]

I really wish I had a weed eater right about now...... :(

[Dan]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
I'm Crying.

Does it help?

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by Dan
I cant stop crying. Why did my boyfriend do this to me. Now I see why he always wants to fuck me in the ass but he wont let me fuck him in the ass.

This isn't the place to be discussing this disgusting shit. You need to confront your fag boyfriend. You should both go to counseling together.

[Dan]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
Dan,It sucks when the only time I have sex it when I help the Old Ladies in my Apartment Building.I don't tell them about my herpes,Should I?

You are a Sick person going after Old Ladies.

[vhrothfan]

Dan please,go to a gay support group or post at a gay forum about this shit.

[Dan]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
Dan,I have found a gay support group.

Do you feel happy now?

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by Dan
It gets worse...my boyfriend is 80 years old. He takes Viagra and gets a hard on for hours and I have to satisfy him until the Viagra wears off.

:tool:

[Dan]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
This is the first Time I can share to you guys I use Viagra,I know I have talked about coming out and all that,but hey I'm o.k with it.

The first steps are always the hardest.

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by Dan
When my 80 year old boyfriend takes his Viagra he makes his wife watch him fuck me in the ass to try and make her horny. But she has no sex drive so I have to get fucked in the ass until the Viagra wears off. My ass is so sore from him fucking me plus the herpes in my ass. I don't know what to do.

I cant help you Dan.

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by Dan
After awhile his wife just starts reading and that pisses him off so he fucks my ass even harder.

:rolleyes:

[Dan]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
I still bleed from my Ass.

Do you have to wear Pads?

[Dan]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
I'm Gay and Happy.

I think it might be time to stop saying it and We know this.:(

[vhrothfan]

Originally posted by Dan
My ass bleeds all the time. Plus it itches from the herpes that the son of a bitch gave me.

Buy some tampons.

[Dan]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
I like being a Bitch sometimes.

That's too much information.

[Dan]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
I Buy tampons as my Ass is dripping all of the time.

O.K.:(

[vhrothfan]

Dan please get some help.

[vhrothfan]

We could insult each other but I think you getting some help is much more important. You have some serious issues.

[Dan]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
Dan please help me.

See a Doctor first.

[vhrothfan]

No Dan,YOU go get some help.

[Dan]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
I have some serious issues.

You do.

[vhrothfan]

Dan, you need to be taken to a hospital to be evaluated?

[Panamark]

Originally posted by Dan
Mate,I'm watching and posting at the same Time,Go The Black Caps.:)

290 !

Ahh.... Gilchrist will get that in the first 15 overs :p

[Dan]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
No Dan,I need help now.

Holy Shit,You are freaking us out.

[vhrothfan]

Dan you are the freak. Go get some help.

[Dan]

Originally posted by Panamark
290 !

Ahh.... Gilchrist will get that in the first 15 overs :p

I was hoping for 300+, but you guys have trouble getting over 200.:)

[Dan]

Originally posted by vhrothfan
Dan,I'm a freak,don't hold that against me.

You are One Fucked up person.

[Panamark]

Originally posted by Dan
I was hoping for 300+, but you guys have trouble getting over 200.:)

Actually last game I watched in full, Aussies got 358 or something
like that ?? You so sure ??

[matt19]

Light the fucker.

[Dan]

Originally posted by Panamark
Actually last game I watched in full, Aussies got 358 or something
like that ?? You so sure ??

I sure This Time.Your Confidence has taking a knock to England.;)

Watch out for The Black Attack.:)

[Panamark]

Originally posted by Dan
I sure This Time.Your Confidence has taking a knock to England.;)

Watch out for The Black Attack.:)

Im gonna !! Geez mate, if you guys cant beat the pommies
to the final, you may as well pack it in for the world cup...

[Dan]

Originally posted by Panamark
Im gonna !! Geez mate, if you guys cant beat the pommies
to the final, you may as well pack it in for the world cup...

We need this Win Big Time.

You are right if we don't make it in the finals.

Never count a kiwi Out.:)

[AlbertR]

Originally posted by Dan
We need this Win Big Time.

You are right if we don't make it in the finals.

Never count a kiwi Out.:)

thanks for helping to keep this on topic :rolleyes:

[AlbertR]

There is NOTHING regarding this torch thing being dependent on all 4 original guys taking the stage at the R&R HOF... there is NOTHING regarding all 4 original guys playing their first song together!

The torch description says when it is ANNOUNCED that Dave is back with Van Halen, that it will be lit.

Not recording a new song or album. Not standing on stage together. Not necessarily reuniting with Mikey. Just to be lit when it is ANNOUNCED that DAVID LEE ROTH has RETURNED to Van Halen. Well, it has been ANNOUNCED, and many of you seem to be hung up on the fact that is not exactly how you wanted or expected. OH WELL! It is not how I expected it either, but the fact remains, DAVID LEE ROTH will be touring again singing for Van FUCKING Halen, so I say light the fucking torch, or get rid of the torch, because it looks stupid to ignore the fact that Dave is finally back in Van Halen!

[Panamark]

Al !

Im leaving it up to Sarge....
If he says light it, up she goes !!! ;)

[TAKIN WHISKEY]

Anytime someone has asked my opinion about lighting something on fire. My response is always the same.

[jgdrag]

Light Up the Sky

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by AlbertR


I'd like this thread to focus on just one topic,

Well, that was pretty naive. :cool:

[bantonelli]

Originally posted by AlbertR
There is NOTHING regarding this torch thing being dependent on all 4 original guys taking the stage at the R&R HOF... there is NOTHING regarding all 4 original guys playing their first song together!

The torch description says when it is ANNOUNCED that Dave is back with Van Halen, that it will be lit.

Not recording a new song or album. Not standing on stage together. Not necessarily reuniting with Mikey. Just to be lit when it is ANNOUNCED that DAVID LEE ROTH has RETURNED to Van Halen. Well, it has been ANNOUNCED, and many of you seem to be hung up on the fact that is not exactly how you wanted or expected. OH WELL! It is not how I expected it either, but the fact remains, DAVID LEE ROTH will be touring again singing for Van FUCKING Halen, so I say light the fucking torch, or get rid of the torch, because it looks stupid to ignore the fact that Dave is finally back in Van Halen!



GREAT POINT!!!...after all, this is a ROTH-based site.

LIGHT THE TORCH, BABY!

"It's Now or Never"....Elvis

[jgdrag]

what is the cut off time for this poll?

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by AlbertR
The torch description says when it is ANNOUNCED that Dave is back with Van Halen, that it will be lit.

This is, of course, paramount on the concept that the band Van Halen is still, you know, Van Halen.

Which currently, in so far as myself and many others are concerned, it really isn't.

If Sammy Hagar was onboard for the tour playing rhythm guitar and singing his own songs while Dave was off stage, the torch would, by the logic you're using here, have to be lit.

By the same logic, Ed and Alex could retire and Dave and Mike could go out as Van Halen with Wolfgang on bass and practically anybody on guitar, and the torch would have to be lit.

Or Van Halen could add a second guitarist spot who also sings lead and a full time on stage keyboard player who sings lead too. Kinda like Van Styx. David could be simply one of two or three different singers in the same scenario and it'd still have to be lit, right?

Hell, why not expand on the idea? If David's doing an entirely Van Halen set, well, hell, Tony Iommi was a founding member of Black Sabbath and the ONLY original member present for quite a few years. So if Van Halen was inactive and David was doing solely Van Halen concerts, that kinda makes David "Van Halen" all on his own - do we light the torch then, too?

OR -

We could wait until Van Halen actually reunites, and THEN light it, and find it so much more satisifying...

I don't know, maybe it's me...?

[TAKIN WHISKEY]

I see both sides to this, but one thing is for sure. The band is more Van Halen now, than it has been in 22 years.

[slage33]

why the fuck is the torch not lit. dave is back in van halen plan and simply. maybe its not all four orignal members , but so fucking what. when i was fourteen i saw them for the first time in 82, i didnt walk away from the show thinking i just saw the greatest bass player in the world. i walked away thinking i just saw the greatest front man of all time and one bad mother fucker on guitar. i had the same feeling in 84 when i saw them. i have seen 100's of great rock shows the stonesX7,aerosmithx25,the black crowesx20,page&plantx2,stevie ray vaughx4 just to many to list them all. and to this day i still maintain the van halen shows were the two greatest i ever saw. in closeing light the fucking torch allready

[Mezro]

Mezro...light 3/4 of it...

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by slage33
why the fuck is the torch not lit. dave is back in van halen plan and simply. maybe its not all four orignal members , but so fucking what. when i was fourteen i saw them for the first time in 82, i didnt walk away from the show thinking i just saw the greatest bass player in the world. i walked away thinking i just saw the greatest front man of all time and one bad mother fucker on guitar. i had the same feeling in 84 when i saw them. i have seen 100's of great rock shows the stonesX7,aerosmithx25,the black crowesx20,page&plantx2,stevie ray vaughx4 just to many to list them all. and to this day i still maintain the van halen shows were the two greatest i ever saw. in closeing light the fucking torch allready

This is why:

"This is, of course, paramount on the concept that the band Van Halen is still, you know, Van Halen.

Which currently, in so far as myself and many others are concerned, it really isn't.

If Sammy Hagar was onboard for the tour playing rhythm guitar and singing his own songs while Dave was off stage, the torch would, by the logic you're using here, have to be lit.

By the same logic, Ed and Alex could retire and Dave and Mike could go out as Van Halen with Wolfgang on bass and practically anybody on guitar, and the torch would have to be lit.

Or Van Halen could add a second guitarist spot who also sings lead and a full time on stage keyboard player who sings lead too. Kinda like Van Styx. David could be simply one of two or three different singers in the same scenario and it'd still have to be lit, right?

Hell, why not expand on the idea? If David's doing an entirely Van Halen set, well, hell, Tony Iommi was a founding member of Black Sabbath and the ONLY original member present for quite a few years. So if Van Halen was inactive and David was doing solely Van Halen concerts, that kinda makes David "Van Halen" all on his own - do we light the torch then, too?

OR -

We could wait until Van Halen actually reunites, and THEN light it, and find it so much more satisifying...

I don't know, maybe it's me...?"

[bueno bob]

Anybody else amazed that, short of the die hard Van Halen fans, the world in general hardly seems to care?

A lot of websites haven't even mentioned it in their music news yet...

Hardly the response 1996 got, hmm?

I have a VERY BAD FEELING about this...

[Mezro]

Yeah, nobody seems to give a shit.

Mezro...11 years too late...

[Rikk]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Anybody else amazed that, short of the die hard Van Halen fans, the world in general hardly seems to care?

A lot of websites haven't even mentioned it in their music news yet...

Hardly the response 1996 got, hmm?

I have a VERY BAD FEELING about this...

Actually, and I hate to admit it, it's getting a lot of mention. People are even mentioning it to me, knowing I like Van Halen.

Lead story on Billboard and lots of other sites.

Still, they should have done this in '96.

[diamondsgirl]

Its all over the place here

First they mention Dave is back in and then as a side note the bassplayer is WVH

I think there would have been more hype if this was done before the 2004 Van Hagar tour. That shit took a lot of wind out of the sails of this tour.

[Roth & Roll]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Anybody else amazed that, short of the die hard Van Halen fans, the world in general hardly seems to care?

A lot of websites haven't even mentioned it in their music news yet...

Hardly the response 1996 got, hmm?

I have a VERY BAD FEELING about this...

Of course; you SHOULD have a bad feeling about it. The sisters have a marketing machine like Dave on board; but Ed and Al, being the egocentric control freaks that they are - chose to sacrifice good business sense in order to establish their control over the band - and the announcement was made with a whimper - a brief statement on their website that they shut down for almost 4 weeks prior to the "Official Announcement". Instead of creating some anticipation; and perhaps releasing a new single in order to market themselves to a whole new generation of radio listeners; they chose to repeat their mantra of "No News Is Good News" bullshit. It's that very philosophy that has driven away the general publics' interest since 1996.

Classic Van Halen was once defined as the hardest working, most passionate party band of their generation. Classic VH could never be accused of cheating their fans between 1978-1984. I dare you to tell me that any of this is true today in 2007.

The reason no one gives a fuck anymore is because all of those elements which once endeared them to the public, are now gone.

[Brett]

Originally posted by Rikk
Actually, and I hate to admit it, it's getting a lot of mention. People are even mentioning it to me, knowing I like Van Halen.

Lead story on Billboard and lots of other sites.

Still, they should have done this in '96.

I had a VH 1 shirt on yesteday, and ONE person said something to me when we were out. Of course when I said I wasn't going they looked at me all funny. I told them why, and they didn't even know who Michael Anthony was I guess.

As much I'm against this and won't be going, it will do fine and a make a ton of money. Few outside of these boards care or even know who Michael Anthony is. It's Dave, it's Eddie, it's Van Halen to them.

[DavidLeeNatra]

as long as I don't get the "I don't give a shit"-button about the torchure-topic...I vote "no"...or "yes"...dunno...

[NATEDOG001976]

Light it up bitches!!

[slage33]

[QUOTE][i]


in response to bueno bob


In theory your correct, but the fact is its not that complicated of a scenario.

[Dan]

Originally posted by AlbertR
thanks for helping to keep this on topic :rolleyes:

Welcome to The Army and enjoy your Stay again.:)

[SoCalChelle]

Aw come on, just light the damn thing :)

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by slage33
[QUOTE][i]


in response to bueno bob


In theory your correct, but the fact is its not that complicated of a scenario.

Oh, I know; it's just that I feel very strongly about all four or nothing, and I'm actually very bi-polar about the whole thing...for five minutes, it's all I can think about, and for the next five I'm ready to sell all my VH related merchandise and tell them to just bite my ass and enjoy it...

[bueno bob]

Well, at least it's being covered somewhere (Rikk & DG's mentions). Out in my neck of the woods, nobody's talking about it...radio mentioned it in passing, but that was it...

[Steve Savicki]

Originally posted by Mezro
Yeah, nobody seems to give a shit.

Mezro...11 years too late...
I guess the torch will be the symbol of spirit of Roth Army!

[AlbertR]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Oh, I know; it's just that I feel very strongly about all four or nothing...

This vote and forum thread is not asking whether you are happy with the announcement, whether you feel bad about Mikey or whether you will support Wolfie. This is NOT asking whether you consider this a real reunion or not, or whether you prefer to see all 4 original members or not. The poll is not whether you are going to see the tour, whether we should be happy about this, or anything like that. It is NOT asking what you consider the band Van Halen to be, or whether Ed has final say on what he considers the band to be. It is NOT asking whether YOU would call it Van Halen if other people joined the band.

Just take 2 seconds to read the torch description again:

http://www.rotharmy.com/torch.shtml


Van Halen Reunion Torch
Want this beauty or your site?
Use the code below to place the torch on your website. When the Van Halen reunion is announced.. with David Lee Roth of course.. we will light the torch and the internet ablaze!
Logo creation credit: Jeremy Steffen and Craig Smith.


Seems pretty clear cut to me. Van Halen officially announced that David Lee Roth had returned to the band. Most of us wanted Dave to return to the band (although under different circumstances, different timing, different lineups etc), and we had this torch held out as a symbol of our hope.

To not light it for your own petty differences about the timing, lineup, decisions, whatever, seems stupid. You don't have to like or support anything about it, but can't you at least acknowledge that David Lee Roth has returned to the band commonly known as Van Halen? If you can acknowledge that, then you should vote 'yes' to light the torch.

Many seem to be reading more into the purpose of the torch. It was just to show suppport for Dave returning to Van Halen. He has. Let's light it!

[jgdrag]

Initially I was against it and then had to change my thinking after reading it

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by AlbertR
This vote and forum thread is not asking whether you are happy with announcement, whether you feel bad about Mikey or whether you will support Wolfie. This is NOT asking whether you consider this a real reunion or not or whether you want to see all 4 original members or not. The poll is not whether you are going to see the tour, whether we should be happy about this, or anything like that. It is NOT asking what you consider the band Van Halen to be, or whether Ed has final say on what he considers the band to be. It is NOT asking whether YOU would call it Van Halen if other people joined the band.



Boy, you're pretty damn controlling, aren't you?


Originally posted by AlbertR
[B]

Just take 2 seconds to read the torch description again:

. When the Van Halen reunion is announced.. with David Lee Roth of course.. we will light the torch and the internet ablaze!



Seems pretty clear cut to me. .



Yeah, it seems pretty clear cut to me, too Al. :rolleyes:

WHEN. THE. VAN. HALEN. REUNION IS. ANNOUNCED.

With DLR of course.

Dave may or may NOT be back with The Sisters....

But it's COMMON KNOWLEDGE that MiA is NOT in the band.

Hence, there is NO Reunion.


Cou CAN say Dave is back in Van Halen. But that does not mean The Original Van Halen has been reunited.


But the fact this torch consumes you, is all the more reason to leave it unlit.

Would you want it lit if spED or ALice weren't involved?

A CVH Reunion is all four.


Now, back to the game...... :gulp:

[AlbertR]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
...
Dave may or may NOT be back with The Sisters....

...

Now I understand better where you are coming from. You are still in denial about what is clearly stated on Van Halen's official website

van-halen.com (http://www.van-halen.com/)


...VAN HALEN officially announces their 2007 North American tour.

The tour will mark the first time since 1984 that original VAN HALEN front man David Lee Roth will perform with Eddie and Alex Van Halen...

You've obviously decided against logic and common sense to make up your own rules for what YOU consider Van Halen to be, or what a true "reunion" is.

Has Dave reunited with Van Halen?


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/reunion (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/reunion)

I'm saying yes, Dave has united again with Van Halen. Is it all 4 original members? No, but, that doesn't take away from the clear fact that Dave has been announced as returning again to the band known as Van Halen.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by AlbertR
Now I understand better where you are coming from. You are still in denial about what is clearly stated on Van Halen's official website

van-halen.com (http://www.van-halen.com/)


...VAN HALEN officially announces their 2007 North American tour.

The tour will mark the first time since 1984 that original VAN HALEN front man David Lee Roth will perform with Eddie and Alex Van Halen...

You've obviously decided against logic and common sense to make up your own rules for what YOU consider Van Halen to be, or what a true "reunion" is.

Has Dave reunited with Van Halen?


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/reunion (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/reunion)

I'm saying yes, Dave has united again with Van Halen. Is it all 4 original members? No, but, that doesn't take away from the clear fact that Dave has been announced as returning again to the band known as Van Halen.


LMMFAO

It's been "announced" by VH.

Where were you in 1996?


It all comes down to semantics, doesn't it?

I consider a CVH reunion all 4 members.

You're cool with 3 of 4, as long as DLR is one of the 3.

We just have different standards.

Let's see whatr Sarge does, because frankly it doesn't mean shit what you or I want.


But the only CVH reunion in my book, actually has to contain all 4 CVH members.

:gulp:

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by AlbertR


The tour will mark the first time since 1984 that original VAN HALEN front man David Lee Roth will perform with Eddie and Alex Van Halen...

[/B]

Did you NOTICE how they worded it?

....will perform with Ediie and Alex Van Halen.

NOT ....will perform as Van Halen.

Because, see......it's all about ed and al.

Dave isn't reuniting with Van Halen according to them, he's reuniting with Ed and Al Van Halen.

:cool:

[jgdrag]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
A CVH Reunion is all four.




Nothing about CVH reunion?

The real problem is how loose the torch statement is written. Nobody saw this coming even though we knew bass player was almost released back in 1980

Because you used adjectives like original and classic, you kill your own arguement

From the writing of the torch statement that is irrelevant because the wording does not include classic, original etc,, just Van Halen
It says Van Halen, bass player is not part of Van Halen, it would still be a reunion because he is irrelevant to the statement

FACT 1:bass player is not part of Van Halen
Ed owns the name to Van Halen and he decides who is in Van Halen at anytime and he decided bass player is not part of Van Halen

FACT 2:Dave is back in VH for today, who knows about tomorrow but it was announced that right now, Van HAlen and Dave have reunited

If spED or yes man Alex were not involved and there was a band named VH and Dave rejoined, it is still Van Halen because of the same arguments

Like I said initially, I was against the lighting of the torch but after reading it I was forced into altering my opinion, no, I was forced to change because the wording

But if they perform with ed and al as you state, fuck, what a kick in the nuts, no cup either

http://www.vhnd.com/articles/070202-01.shtml

I am very excited to get back to the core of what made VAN HALEN.
By this statement it is confusing with respect to your statement of "will perform with ?"

[DavidLeeNatra]

I am tired...again...

[bueno bob]

Well, thank you for clearing all that up for me!


Originally posted by AlbertR
This vote and forum thread is not asking whether you are happy with the announcement, whether you feel bad about Mikey or whether you will support Wolfie.

Well, maybe you can find it in your infinite wisdom and patience to forgive me for a little personal commentary on the subject at hand? I beg your indulgance...

:rolleyes:

This is NOT asking whether you consider this a real reunion or not, or whether you prefer to see all 4 original members or not.

Well, then, to my mind all 4 original members constitutes a reunion, where as 75% of the band DOES NOT.

Is THAT the point, or am I straying off topic again?

The poll is not whether you are going to see the tour, whether we should be happy about this, or anything like that.

So everybody should just say "yes" or "no" and post nothing else at all at the risk of offending your sensitivities?

It is NOT asking what you consider the band Van Halen to be, or whether Ed has final say on what he considers the band to be.

Well I'd think that's pretty obvious on it's own account, wouldn't you?

It is NOT asking whether YOU would call it Van Halen if other people joined the band.

And I suppose all of those facets are completely irrelevant?

I mean, believe it or not kiddo, there's a new member in the band and that's part of the problem with your logic.

Just take 2 seconds to read the torch description again:

http://www.rotharmy.com/torch.shtml


Van Halen Reunion Torch
Want this beauty or your site?
Use the code below to place the torch on your website. When the Van Halen reunion is announced.. with David Lee Roth of course.. we will light the torch and the internet ablaze!
Logo creation credit: Jeremy Steffen and Craig Smith.

A Van Halen "REUNION", under your terms, could consist of David Lee Roth, David Coverdale, Eddie Van Halen, Paul Gilbert, Steve Vai, Billy Sheehan, Michael Anthony, Wolfgang Van Halen, Bob Daisley, Alex Van Halen, John Dette, me, you and half of the message board here.

Just as long as David Lee Roth is there, hey, the torch should be lit, because that's a "Van Halen Reunion".

One new member or 354,000 new members - no difference.

Seems pretty clear cut to me.

Unfortunately, your only one of many opposing viewpoints, sport.

Van Halen officially announced that David Lee Roth had returned to the band. Most of us wanted Dave to return to the band (although under different circumstances, different timing, different lineups etc), and we had this torch held out as a symbol of our hope.

Oh please. It's an aspect of an internet forum. Not a symbol of salvation, for God's sake....

To not light it for your own petty differences about the timing, lineup, decisions, whatever, seems stupid.

Yet, to not light it because it's not truly a Van Halen reunion seems pretty logical.

You don't have to like or support anything about it, but can't you at least acknowledge that David Lee Roth has returned to the band commonly known as Van Halen?

Yeah, here I am, trying to deny that David's back...you got me!

If you can acknowledge that, then you should vote 'yes' to light the torch.

:rolleyes:

Many seem to be reading more into the purpose of the torch. It was just to show suppport for Dave returning to Van Halen. He has. Let's light it!

No. He hasn't returned to Van Halen as it was known. He's joined the Eddie Van Halen Band.

Van Halen IS:

David Lee Roth
Edward Van Halen
Michael Anthony
Alex Van Halen

And THAT IS IT.

You know what? Using my own words...

"Oh please. It's an aspect of an internet forum. Not a symbol of salvation, for God's sake...."

I absolutely refuse to care about this subject any further. I'd think my point makes sense, and I would hope that it does to a few people...

But, what the hell...I'm generous...if it must be lit, so be it - I refuse to care about it either way.

Either way, Albert, powers that be - being the folks here higher up on the ladder than you or I - will make the decision, and voting about it and/or debating it endlessly isn't going to make any difference.

So be it.

b

[jgdrag]

Actually BB, the poll should take presidence over the powers that be, don't you think? If the poll continues the way it has, the torch should be lit whether the powers that be agree or not.
I was against the lighting also but the wording put me in a corner to rethink my opinion and go with the lighting due to the wording of the agreement.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by jgdrag
Actually BB, the poll should take presidence over the powers that be, don't you think? If the poll continues the way it has, the torch should be lit whether the powers that be agree or not.
I was against the lighting also but the wording put me in a corner to rethink my opinion and go with the lighting due to the wording of the agreement.

We all post here at Sarge's indulgance.

At any given time, he can (for good reason or without) pull the rug out from underneath us and this website can be gone.

The decision about the direction of the site or any modifications done with it are his, and from the top of his mountain it flows down to Pojo, Mark, et al, and finally from them down to the mods.

Finally, folks like you and I get to vote on it and whine like little girls when we don't get what we want.

;)

[Rikk]

Originally posted by AlbertR
This vote and forum thread is not asking whether you are happy with the announcement, whether you feel bad about Mikey or whether you will support Wolfie. This is NOT asking whether you consider this a real reunion or not, or whether you prefer to see all 4 original members or not. The poll is not whether you are going to see the tour, whether we should be happy about this, or anything like that. It is NOT asking what you consider the band Van Halen to be, or whether Ed has final say on what he considers the band to be. It is NOT asking whether YOU would call it Van Halen if other people joined the band...

God, shut up. You want some cheese with that whine?:cry:

[skyscraper]

Let the torch be lit, and light up the sky......!!!!!!

[dougo]

At some point, if an artist/entertainer survives long enough to have a second or third decade of success they will most likely do something that their fans are not all together cool with. Look at bands like The Who, Queen even the Rolling Stones. They've all replaced band members that, at one point and time seemed irreplacable.
Keith Moon, Freddy Mercury those guys are by far and a way more historically notable that Michael Anthony. BUT I am pissed that Michael is not onboard with Van Halen. WHY? He's alive and well and very healthy. You see with the WHO, Pete Townshend was left with quite a dilema...how do I carry on as an artist once another member passes away? Especially when the "name brand" is so vitale to the marketing of a band. So I understand and respect what the WHO and even Queen (to a lesser extent) are doing. Afterall, they have a right to entertain. And if you don't like it you can chose not to go. BUT with Van Halen we have a fairly lame excuse..."You can't be in two bands simultaneously". Well we all know that that is not the really reason. If asked by Eddie, Michael would drop his involvement with Sammy in a heart beat. My guess is that Michael Anthony did the unforgivable in Ed's eyes when just before the "Other Half" tour started he began going out of his way to mention (in print) how happy his family life was and carrying on about his loving wife. As if to rub it in that Ed's marriage had failed. It was shortly after those comments that the name WOLFEY began to appear. So I think Ed has brought the Wolfboy on for several reasons, one of which is to suggest that he hasn't failed as a father despite the failed marriage. And as far as comments regarding how wierd EVH is looking on magazine covers (almost Jacksonesque and doll like). I think he's VERY INSECURE of his looks after the cancer scare and is likely overcompensating for it. Which is too bad. He looked far better before the face work.

Anyway, this whole thing is really mostly about EVH and DLR anyway. I think EVERYONE in the world minus three people (all with the same last name VH) ould like to see Mikey back in the fold. But, although it doesn't appear to be going to happen I think Mikey will survive and go on to find greener pastures with Sammy.
It is too bad. As far as lighting the torch....hmmmmmmmmmmmm. I'd say go for it but maybe don't make the flame burn as brightly or as brilliantly as it would have if Mikey had been invited in. I don't see EVH changing his mind he carried quite a long grudge with DLR so maybe when they're all 75 we might see a full bug reunion.
I'll likely go but when those famous harmonies are missing from the classics I'll most certainly think of Mikey.

[DUNN28]

http://www.vanhalenstore.com/shop/graphics/00000001/ZIPB.jpg


Light the torch!!

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by DUNN28
Light the torch!!

Sure! As soon as there's a reunion.

[jgdrag]

Right on BB

[AlbertR]

Originally posted by jgdrag
Nothing about CVH reunion?

The real problem is how loose the torch statement is written. Nobody saw this coming even though we knew bass player was almost released back in 1980

Because you used adjectives like original and classic, you kill your own arguement

From the writing of the torch statement that is irrelevant because the wording does not include classic, original etc,, just Van Halen
It says Van Halen, bass player is not part of Van Halen, it would still be a reunion because he is irrelevant to the statement

FACT 1:bass player is not part of Van Halen
Ed owns the name to Van Halen and he decides who is in Van Halen at anytime and he decided bass player is not part of Van Halen

FACT 2: Dave is back in VH for today, who knows about tomorrow but it was announced that right now, Van HAlen and Dave have reunited

If spED or yes man Alex were not involved and there was a band named VH and Dave rejoined, it is still Van Halen because of the same arguments

Like I said initially, I was against the lighting of the torch but after reading it I was forced into altering my opinion, no, I was forced to change because the wording

...

You make some very good points, and stated them better than I could have.

I am tired of this subject now, but I did want to read why others thought the torch should or should not be lit.

I came from the perspective that the Van Halen band is whatever Ed says it is and whatever is officially posted about it on van-halen.com I thought it was pretty clear that they officially announced on their website that Dave had reunited with the band for a 40 show tour this summer.

Others argued that this was not a classic Van Halen reunion, or not a full original member reunion. Fine. I agree that it is not, but the torch was created to show support for Dave uniting again with the band. He has. It's official.

I have mixed feelings over this, wishing the lineup was different, wishing it happened years ago, etc. but oh well, I am VERY happy Dave will again perform with Van Halen, if only once more.

I didn't set a limit for how long the poll would be open, but the announcement was made on Friday and here it is Monday with the torch unlit. It seems pretty irrelevant now. Dave has reunited with Van Halen and the occaision was not signaled as some expected (because of the change in bass player).

[Panamark]

I wouldnt give up hope just yet Albert...

[bru87tr]

why isnt the torch lit ?

come one, we are starting to look like wennies.

either Roth has reformed with VH or he has not.

lets get this thing lit!!!

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by bru87tr



either Roth has reformed with VH or he has not.




I wouldn't try and cash that check just yet.

Am I the only one around here old enough to remember 1996???



:rolleyes:

[Atomic Dyver]

Don't light that torch. Its only a re-union if all 4 members are there.

Hey DLR and Eddie together with alex? Close but no cigar......its like water in your beer.

[vh rides again]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Anybody else amazed that, short of the die hard Van Halen fans, the world in general hardly seems to care?

A lot of websites haven't even mentioned it in their music news yet...

Hardly the response 1996 got, hmm?

I have a VERY BAD FEELING about this...

BB
hey, did you see that the four vanhalen members were the hottest new internet searches last week and this week?
i think its gaining alot of steam.
you seen it back in the day, all those people are still there, they are just waiting.
its gonna be big, Bob.

[Eyes of the Night]

Light the fucker!!! ...

[Atomic Dyver]

Make a Wolf Halen torch and light that........

[jgdrag]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
I wouldn't try and cash that check just yet.

Am I the only one around here old enough to remember 1996???



:rolleyes:

I'm with ya. Doesn't sound quite as sweet as it did initially.
But, Edward does say "I am very excited to get back to the core of what made VAN HALEN"

Personally, I expect this tour and that is it, no cd, no future collaboration, nothing

[hideyoursheep]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
I wouldn't try and cash that check just yet.

Am I the only one around here old enough to remember 1996???
:rolleyes:


Of couse you are.

IF they can pull this off @ RRHof without Mr. Edward Van Corleone's bi-polar disorder acting up, you gotta light it. He and Dave are performing together more than likely for the last year.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by vh rides again
BB
hey, did you see that the four vanhalen members were the hottest new internet searches last week and this week?
i think its gaining alot of steam.
you seen it back in the day, all those people are still there, they are just waiting.
its gonna be big, Bob.

Hope you're right! :)

[jgdrag]

Yes the CVH members were the hottest searches on Yahoo last week
However, all I have seen is the Police announcement on the tube. I personally do not believe it will be as big as 1984 audiences.

[GreenBayLA]

Light Up!
No it's not a true reunion but it is DLR. Take nothing for granted, if they survive RnR HOF THEN light the torch.

[DUNN28]

http://thomasdimera.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/flame.gif


http://www.chem.arizona.edu/news/outreach-flame.gif

[Eyes of the Night]

Niiice!!!:cool: ...

[perilousepete]

i voted light it, because as already stated a million times i think this is as close as the true band will get. but if there's such a controversy, why doesn't panamark or whoever made the torch or has authority over just put under it on the main site "to be lit when all four original members officially reunite" that would end all this shit

[tora]

Light it up when the 1st note of the 1st gig actually happens.

[Panamark]

Originally posted by perilousepete
i voted light it, because as already stated a million times i think this is as close as the true band will get. but if there's such a controversy, why doesn't panamark or whoever made the torch or has authority over just put under it on the main site "to be lit when all four original members officially reunite" that would end all this shit


Sarge owns the site and has the final say, having said that,
dont give up guys ! Im getting the Roth Army Lighter ready ! :)

[AlbertR]

Originally posted by perilousepete
i voted light it, because as already stated a million times i think this is as close as the true band will get. but if there's such a controversy, why doesn't panamark or whoever made the torch or has authority over just put under it on the main site "to be lit when all four original members officially reunite" that would end all this shit

yes, rewording the text like that would certainly end all this controversy

but as the text stands now, it says ""When the Van Halen reunion is announced.. with David Lee Roth of course.. we will light the torch and the internet ablaze!"

well, last Friday, the official website that speaks for Van Halen announced that David Lee Roth had returned. I expected to see the torch lit.

still don't understand why people are still waiting for them to take the stage at the R&R HOF, or waiting for the first night of the tour, or something else. The torch text says when the reunion is ANNOUNCED.


I'm tired of arguing this, but it is interesting to see that a majority of the people who voted in the poll are in favor of lighting it.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by AlbertR



I'm tired of arguing this,

Obviously not :rolleyes:

A Reunion of Van Halen [and this site is dedicated to CLASSIC Van Halen] means just that....

DLR
EVH
AVH
MiA

Van Halen has NOT reunited with David Lee Roth.

The brothers have.

If you accept the brothers as Van Halen, then that's your problem.

:gulp:

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Van Halen has NOT reunited with David Lee Roth.

The brothers have.

If you accept the brothers as Van Halen, then that's your problem.



Well said.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Well said.


I owe you more retainer $$ now, huh? ;)


BTW, thanks for getting the last charges dropped.

:gulp:

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Well said.

Well said as well...

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Well said as well...

Nicely put.

[jgdrag]

To be lit when the VH Reunion announcement is made. Of course this is a "Dave Only" torch.

Eddie Van Halen states, "I am very excited to get back to the core of what made VAN HALEN."

yes, it should 58 60.42%
no, it should not 38 39.58%
Total: 96 votes 100%

[Panamark]

One could argue that its worth lighting simply to
celebrate the death of Van Hagar ! :D

[jgdrag]

I'm up for that, but tell me why we have polls if they mean nothing?

[Panamark]

Who says they mean nothing ? ;)

There is division over whether it should be lit or not.
(I have my own opinions, and I came up with the concept !!)

But dont rule out Flaming torches everywhere, not that far away ;)

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by jgdrag
I'm up for that, but tell me why we have polls if they mean nothing?


To give you newbies something to focus on.

They're the ARMY's "shiny object"

:cool:

[jgdrag]

yes, it should 58 60.42%
no, it should not 38 39.58%

[jgdrag]

Double post

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Panamark
One could argue that its worth lighting simply to
celebrate the death of Van Hagar ! :D


Light a flame, to celebrate the flame-out, of a raging flamer?

:confused:

You spin me right round, Pmark. ;)

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by jgdrag
yes, it should 58 60.42%
no, it should not 38 39.58%


Can you stick around to post the results once per page for us?

Sometimes reading the polls on our own cause troubles.

Thanks :gulp:

[jgdrag]

Poll says light it, you think you are going to keep posting not to light it and we are going to sit here and watch,not.

[jgdrag]

Poll says light it, you think you are going to keep posting not to light it and we are going to sit here and watch,not. When is the cut-off time?