Windows Vista: My advice

[MERRYKISSMASS2U]

Don't upgrade.

It's really a piece of shit.

The best version, Ultimate, is around 400 bucks. Many of you may not have a kick ass computer, so you'll be FORCED to upgrade if you want to keep up with the times.

Read: upgrade or buy a new system.

You guys should really check out a Mac mini. Cheap as hell (starting at 600), fast, and generally a better experience.


Microsoft agrees with me when I say OS X is the best. The sincerest form of flattery is imitation. MS even copied the fucking wallpapers of Tiger.



Vista:

http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=w215ti.jpg

Mac OS X:

http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=stonesuk3.jpg

I'm just saying: Don't let a corporation force you to upgrade and live with hell. For 200 more, get a system and enjoyable experience that will last.

[Dan]

They are showing it on Our T.V.s now.

I'm Happy with Windows XP.

[MERRYKISSMASS2U]

Well, if you ever want to upgrade to something, consider switching to Apple. I've said many times in the past that I'd never own a Mac, but, after trying it, I'll never go back.


Of course, price isn't an issue to me. You should know why by now

[Dan]

Originally posted by MERRYKISSMASS2U
Well, if you ever want to upgrade to something, consider switching to Apple. I've said many times in the past that I'd never own a Mac, but, after trying it, I'll never go back.


Of course, price isn't an issue to me. You should know why by now

Cos you Build your own Computers?

[MERRYKISSMASS2U]

Originally posted by Dan
Cos you Build your own Computers?

Cuz I download everything! I build my own computers, butcha can't build a Mac. Even if you could build a machine that runs OS X flawlessly, it wouldn't look as good as getting the real thing.

[Little Texan]

No thanks! I think I'll stick with xp for a while, then try and learn how to use Linux. I'm fed up with Micro$oft and their insatiable greed! Vista might just end up being the straw that breaks the camel's back for me and gets me away from Windows! Sounds like nothing but a resource hog from all I've heard of it!

[MERRYKISSMASS2U]

Using a Mac, I can run any application known to man.... it's also like I never left Linux.



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[Hardrock69]

I will not upgrade.

Xp is all I need. And Windoze 2000 was the last OS I ever actually bought.

I will never give those assholes another dollar.

Fuck MicroShaft.

They can suck my fucking dick!

It is fast getting to the point now where Linux can run most MicroShaft formatted programs.

By the time I am ready to leave MS behind, Linux will run just abut anything.

[Panamark]

Does anyone really go and buy MS operating systems
the minute they are released ??

I wait until at least a year before I even look at it....

By that time the obligitory 3 or more service packs
have been released ands its getting closer to what
the original should have been like in the first place..

XP is fine now... Why upgrade at this point ?

In fact, although unsupported Win98se still runs
perfectly ok....
(If you ditch IE and get some decent security)

[BITEYOASS]

I'm gettin Linux for my next computer (which I will assemble myself) once my laptop dies.

[flappo]

[m_dixon1984]

I'm not trying to start any pro-Microsoft bullshit but Vista really isn't that bad. It has some pretty cool new features and the new Aero 3D GUI is fairly nice to work with. It requires some horsepower, though. Don't even think about using the new features with less than 1Gb of RAM and a fairly new processor, >1Ghz (so 3 or 4 years old, no older). I've been testing Vista for over a year and have seen the improvements made since receiving the alpha build late in 2005.

If you're going to buy a copy, wait. Wait at least 6 months, if not a full year. Let others discover the problems and let MS do their job fixing them. There continue to be reports of Vista drivers being hard to find for older video and sound cards. The new DVD encryption and copying rules are going to prove to be a pain in the ass for those who make DVD copies.

My personal opinion is to never purchase Vista directly. Let someone with a VLA (volume license agreement) buy it and bundle it with a hardware purchase (full system or hard drive in some cases). Getting the new OS this way gives MS far less money and you can convince yourself that you're not directly supporting Microsoft (delusional, yes, but if it lets you sleep at night...)

Things I like:
- Some of the Gadgets are OK.
- The new 3D desktop theme is also OK (browsing open programs using alt+tab or simply moving icon over toolbar is a nice feature)
- Media Player was a separate install (assuming because of lawsuit settlements). Means you can avoid installing it altogether and go straight to a media player of your choice.
- Security seems to be greatly improved. Vista now uses a Linux type feature that doesn't allow system changes without direct approval from an administrator account. Firewall seems to be much better configured.
- New Installation interface is easier to use.

Things I don't like:
- administration and support has been made more complicated as the user environment has become more "friendly". Frustrating for the PC technicians out there.
- A lot of touchy feely changes that will only ever make sense to the designers. File-Edit-View-Tools window menus have all but disappeared, replaced by often hard to find Options drop-down menus (often located in odd places in the window).
- Office 2007 has been overhauled with, again, what seem unnecessary and arbitrary changes, mostly visual in nature.
- In Microsoft's attempts to "simplify" things I find they've made more changes to file browsing than they should have. Sure "dumb" users don't have to understand the Windows file structure but that doesn't mean that it should be made so hard to get at (possibly a cue taken from the Mac or some the most recent Linux releases - Ubuntu for example). MS has further advanced their "if you don't need to see it; we won't show it" philosophy that has continued since Windows95. Oh, the area for user files has changed again, now: c:\users\<username> (an arbitrary change that will serve to confuse anyone expecting to find c:\documents and settings\<username>)
- Horsepower hog; making upgrade recommendations difficult. Better to wait to get Vista until you buy a new computer. If you decide to upgrade be ready to at least update RAM to 1Gb and Video to dedicated 128Mb card. (my testing on a 64Mb onboard shared RAM card has been slightly disappointing).

I'm still a Linux fan at heart and have been very impressed with Ubuntu 6.10. There's no need to give either Microsoft or Apple your money, IMO. Stick with Ubuntu, learn a bit of Linux, and support the Open Source community.

Ubuntu64 with OpenOffice (free). Windows Vista Ultimate with Office2007 Professional (aka, Ultimate) ($1000). It doesn't take a genius to figure out which is the better deal.

M

Using Vista because I'm paid to.

[Hardrock69]

Right now you can get an OEM version of Vista Home basic from Newegg.com for 95 bux:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16832116196

Or an OEM version of Vista Ultimate for $199:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16832116213

My cost? Zero....and I have had the Ultimate Edition for 3 months now.

Am I going to use it? Not anytime soon......

[flappo]

tiger pisses all over vista

imagine what leopard will do to it

http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/index.html

[Coyote]

Originally posted by flappo
tiger pisses all over vista

imagine what leopard will do to it

http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/index.html

Dare I say it looks very... *ahem*... "def"?