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  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    Are all the Democratic candidates really pussies?

    Emanuel tells freshmen to avoid Stephen Colbert
    By Jonathan E. Kaplan
    March 15, 2007


    Rep. Rahm Emanuel (D-Ill.), the Democratic Caucus chairman, has told new Democratic members of Congress to steer clear of Stephen Colbert, or at least his satirical Comedy Central program, “The Colbert Report.”

    “He said don’t do it … it’s a risk and it’s probably safer not to do it,” said Rep. Steve Cohen. But the freshman lawmaker from Tennessee taped a segment that last week was featured in the 32nd installment of the “Better Know a District” series. Colbert asked Cohen whether he was a black woman. He isn’t.

    Eyes (but thankfully, not heads) roll in Emanuel’s office when other freshmen stumble, such as the time Rep. John Yarmuth (D-Ky.) got into a debate about the merits of throwing kittens into a wood-chipper, or when Rep. Zack Space (D-Ohio) explained that he is not his predecessor, convicted felon Bob Ney (R).

    The freshmen respect Emanuel, but they don’t always follow his orders. On the other hand, avoiding the kind of publicity that only “The Colbert Report” can confer on a lawmaker may be the only advice from Emanuel that freshman Democrats are ignoring.

    Last year, as the House Democrats’ chief election strategist, Emanuel engineered the party’s takeover of the House by capitalizing on a nationalized midterm election. Now, as the House Democratic spokesman, Emanuel is working to keep freshman Democrats in office. His thoughts on how to manage casework, campaign for reelection, and win favorable press coverage are rooted in former Speaker Tip O’Neill’s (D-Mass.) maxim that “all politics is local.”

    “Pay attention to your district, don’t go Washington, go home every weekend,” is a message Rep. Peter Welch (D-Vt.) said Emanuel has drilled in. “He’s encouraging people to stay local and focus on change, change, change. He and [Speaker Nancy] Pelosi (D-Calif.) both say to renew your commitment to change every day … be local, be practical and maintain that connection to the district.”

    Rep. Paul Hodes (D-N.H.) said of Emanuel, “He has been helpful and a pain-in-the-you-know-what, to my great benefit … he’s an advocate for making sure folks in the district know what you’re doing … Of course, he keeps a close watch on doing what we need to do to get reelected.”

    Emanuel also understands that what works in a traditional Democratic district won’t necessarily work in a more conservative district, Rep. Chris Carney (D-Pa.) said.

    If lawmakers are doing their jobs and staying out of trouble, chances are Emanuel won’t say anything. If they stumble, he speaks up. Hodes considers Emanuel a mentor who understands the value of “tough love.”

    One freshman who has been on the receiving end of Emanuel’s “tough love” is Rep. Steve Kagen (Wis.), who boasted to a group of anti-war activists that he had dressed down President Bush’s top political adviser, Karl Rove, during a White House reception. The administration denied the story.

    But Emanuel threw a fit. Kagen’s staff was hauled into the Democratic Caucus’s office for lessons on how to handle the media, Democratic sources said.

    Rep. Nancy Boyda (D-Kan.) said, “It took [Emanuel] three weeks to come down off of the ceiling” after she refused to accept the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee’s (DCCC) assistance in her bid to win reelection in 2008.
    Boyda said Emanuel would “worry until November 4, 2008, but he says it in a very caring, grandmotherly way.”

    Emanuel is not the only House leader advising first-term Democrats. Pelosi hosts a weekly breakfast for freshmen and Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) guides them through the legislative process. Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), chairman of the DCCC, tells new lawmakers that the first 100 days is the time to cement their relationship with voters by ably handling constituent service requests and pushing a positive legislative agenda.

    Victory won’t be easy in 2008. Democrats may have opportunities to defeat GOP incumbents or pick up open seats, but they first must defend 33 new incumbents of their own. In 1994, House GOPers gained 52 seats and had to protect 73 new freshmen. In 1996, Democrats defeated 12 GOP freshmen and picked up nine seats.

    Some first-term Democrats can breathe a bit easier because former GOP lawmakers and conceivably strong GOP candidates have demurred, including former Reps. Richard Pombo (Calif.) and Rob Simmons (Conn.). Reps. Ron Klein (D-Fla.) and Brad Ellsworth (D-Ind.) also have had opponents decline to run.

    Despite Emanuel’s energetic style of browbeating and worrying, freshman lawmakers esteem him.

    “He’s the Al Davis of Congress,” said Rep. Patrick Murphy (D-Pa.), referring to the legendary owner of the Oakland Raiders who coined the phrase, “Just win, baby.”

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    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush
  • BigBadBrian
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jan 2004
    • 10625

    #2
    Nevada Dems Nix Fox Debate

    By: Ryan Grim
    March 12, 2007 11:59 AM EST

    The Nevada State Democratic Party is pulling out of a controversial presidential debate scheduled for Aug. 14 in Reno and co-hosted by Fox News, according to a letter released late Friday from state party chairman Tom Collins and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev).

    The letter said Nevada Democrats had entered into the agreement with Fox, despite strong opposition from Democratic activist groups such as MoveOn.org, as a way of finding "new ways to talk to new people."

    But Collins and Reid wrote that comments on Thursday by FOX News Chairman and CEO Roger Ailes, when he jokingly compared Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, the junior senator from Illinois, to Osama bin Laden, "went too far," and prompted Nevada Democrats to end the partnership.

    "We cannot, as good Democrats, put our party in a position to defend such comments," the letter said. "In light of his comments, we have concluded that it is not possible to hold a presidential debate that will focus on our candidates and are therefore cancelling our August debate. We take no pleasure in this, but it is the only course of action."

    The debate was to be hosted by Fox News Channel and Fox News Radio, the Nevada State Democratic Party and the Western Majority Project.

    A statement released Friday night from Fox Vice President David Rhodes said: "News organizations will want to think twice before getting involved in the Nevada Democratic Caucus, which appears to be controlled by radical fringe, out-of-state in interest groups, not the Nevada Democratic Party. In the past, MoveOn.org has said they 'own' the Democratic party. While most Democrats don't agree with that, it's clearly the case in Nevada."

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    Fox officials also argued that Ailes' remark about Obama, made at the Radio and TV News Directors Foundation Awards, was meant to poke fun at President Bush, not the Illinois senator.

    Ailes said: "And it is true that Barack Obama is on the move. I don't know if it's true that President Bush called (Pakistani President Pervez) Musharraf and said, 'Why can't we catch this guy?' "

    Controversy has been brewing for weeks about the debate. Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards said Wednesday he would not participate, citing Fox's conservative ties as a factor. His deputy campaign manager, Jonathan Prince, sent an e-mail to the liberal website DailyKos, which was posted on the site.

    “We’re definitely going to debate in Nevada, but we don’t see why this needs to be one of them,” it read.

    The state party has been under pressure from progressive activists across the country, led by MoveOn, to cut its ties with the debate.

    According to MoveOn, more than 265,000 people signed a petition sent to the Nevada State Democratic Party.

    In announcing the event, a statement posted by the state Democratic Party has Reid offering high praise of the debate partnership with Fox.

    “This is more great news for Nevada,” he said in the statement. “I'm happy FOX News will be a partner for the August presidential debate. Western issues will be a major focus of this debate in particular. With FOX News as our partner, candidates will have an opportunity to not only speak to Nevada voters, but voters across the West who will be instrumental to electing a Democratic president in 2008.”

    Ailes lauded the idea, too: “FOX News is proud to be a leader in coverage of the 2008 campaign season and a co-host of this important presidential debate. We look forward to working with the Nevada Democratic Party and the Western Majority Project.”

    State Democratic party chairman Collins, in a letter posted on the party web site Wednesday, said Reid now shared activist concern about the event. Collins wrote the Reid "has asked us to take another look."

    A spokeswoman for the state party did not immediately return a call.

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    “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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    • BigBadBrian
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Jan 2004
      • 10625

      #3
      Originally posted by BigBadBrian


      The debate was to be hosted by Fox News Channel and Fox News Radio, the Nevada State Democratic Party and the Western Majority Project.

      For the 2008 Dem debates, I think Fox should host or sponsor ALL of the debates.

      “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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      • Ellyllions
        Veteran
        • Mar 2006
        • 2012

        #4
        Well...I can see both sides of this actually, BUT I'm inclined to wonder if it's trustworthy of the party to completely avoid the "other side". I mean we're not happy when Bush refuses to talk to other countries, but we're supposed to be ok that these shut outs are happening.

        I won't lie, when I vote in this upcoming election, it's looking like it will be a Democrat that I vote for. UNLESS they're affiliated with Moveon.org.

        But all of this shut out stuff really bothers me. They should feel firm enough on their beliefs that they'll face anyone.

        BTW, if you like George Bush, you're going to love Hillary Clinton.
        Just had to put that in there.
        "If our country is worth dying for in time of war let us resolve that it is truly worth living for in time of peace." - Hamilton Fish

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        • Warham
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Mar 2004
          • 14589

          #5
          Originally posted by Ellyllions
          ...UNLESS they're affiliated with Moveon.org.
          That's going to be a tough order.

          BTW, if you like George Bush, you're going to love Hillary Clinton.
          Watch out now. Most of the libs here will vote for Hillary in '08, and we all know what they think of G.W.B.

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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 58787

            #6
            FAUX News hosting a Democratic Primary debate is like the American Nazi Party hosting a Passover seder.

            As for Rahm Emmanuel, fuck that corporatist pig ass and the Hillary he rode in on.

            Motherfucking foreign spy bastard tries to tear down the ONLY true leader this party has had in years. I have absolutely no use for that asshole.
            Eat Us And Smile

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            • Warham
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Mar 2004
              • 14589

              #7
              I'm keeping track of all the Hillary slander going on here, and then we'll see who votes for her next year to find out who the hypocrites are.

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              • Guitar Shark
                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                • Jan 2004
                • 7579

                #8
                Originally posted by FORD
                FAUX News hosting a Democratic Primary debate is like the American Nazi Party hosting a Passover seder.
                OK, that was funny.
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                Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49205

                  #9
                  Of course they're not going to go on with Colbert.

                  Stupid Americans, like the thread starter, have an irony deficiency and virtually no sense of humor...


                  I speak of when the Democratic congressman from Florida answered a mock question form Colbert, "Drugs are good because,_______?

                  He answered completely tongue and cheek, and there was quite a bit of fallout.

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                  • BigBadBrian
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10625

                    #10
                    Nick, I'm disappointed that you can't do any better in the insult department. It's the only thing you're good at in this forum. Anyway, one Dem agrees that his cohorts are twats...Dennis Kucinich.



                    Cancelled Presidential debates smack of manipulation by ‘run and hide’ candidates


                    AUSTIN (TX) -- The cancellation in the past two days of two planned nationally televised debates because of candidates' "scheduling conflicts" and unwillingness to participate smacks of "manipulation by some candidates who would rather run and hide than defend their records and their positions on the war," Ohio Congressman and Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich said today while campaigning in Texas.

                    Widely publicized Presidential debates in New Hampshire in April and in Nevada in August were cancelled after some candidates either backed out after agreeing to participate or declined invitations to attend.

                    "Whatever their excuses, some candidates are clearly trying to avoid any head-to-head public debate where they will have to answer tough questions -- questions about their votes in favor of the Iraq war, their votes in favor of trade policies that have wiped out millions of American jobs, their votes in favor of abridging Constitutional rights by approving the Patriot Act, and their collaboration with insurance companies and pharmaceutical corporations to deny Americans adequate health care protection."

                    Kucinich said, "It's an insult to the voters, and the height of cynicism, for candidates to refuse to take the public stage and subject themselves to public scrutiny."

                    The New Hampshire debate was announced on January 12. Only two days ago, Kucinich pointed out, did some candidates back out because of "scheduling conflicts."

                    "Is it possible that the real conflict was having to take the stage to defend their votes to fund the war?" Kucinich asked. Votes in the House and the Senate on a $100 billion supplemental appropriation are expected soon.

                    Other candidates were trying to sidestep the Nevada debate because they claimed that the sponsoring television network, Fox News Channel, was conservatively biased.

                    "If you want to be the President of the United States, you can’t be afraid to deal with people with whom you disagree politically," Kucinich said. "No one is further removed from Fox's political philosophy than I am, but fear should not dictate decisions that affect hundreds of millions of Americans and billions of others around the world who are starving for real leadership."

                    Kucinich said, "The public deserves honest, open, and fair public debate, and the media have a responsibility to demand that candidates come forward now, before the next war vote in Congress, to explain themselves."

                    "I'm prepared to discuss the war, health care, trade, or any other issue anytime, anywhere, with any audience, answering any question from any media. And any candidate who won't shouldn't be President of the United States."

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                    • hideyoursheep
                      ROTH ARMY ELITE
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6351

                      #11
                      The thread title is "Are Dem candidates pussies?"..

                      What the fuck did this have to do with anything?

                      That dickhead Ailes, the CEO of Faux Noise compares Obama to Bin-Laden....as if any Democrat would get a fair shake on that network.

                      It's not news for the same faces to go onto the same network and agree with the HOST(notice I didn't say anchor) day after day. Anyone witha difference of opinion gets fillibuster'd by the staff.

                      Have fun pretending to be an actual news organization,Fox. Let the big kids handle the debates, as always.

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                      • Warham
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 14589

                        #12
                        I dunno. Didn't Ted Kennedy call Obama 'Osama' before anyone else did?

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                        • BigBadBrian
                          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 10625

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Warham
                          I dunno. Didn't Ted Kennedy call Obama 'Osama' before anyone else did?
                          He sure did. Blame it on the Chivas.

                          “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                          • Nickdfresh
                            SUPER MODERATOR

                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49205

                            #14
                            Okay. Which Republican candidates will be going on with Colbert/The Daily Show?

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                            • Warham
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 14589

                              #15
                              I couldn't tell you that. I don't keep up with Stewart's show.

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