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  • Hardrock69
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Feb 2005
    • 21838

    Cocaine Purer And Cheaper Despite Drug War

    Apr 28, 2007 12:00 am US/Eastern

    (AP) BOGOTA, Colombia Cocaine prices in the United States have dropped and the drug's purity increased, despite years of effort and nearly $5 billion spent by the U.S. government to combat Colombia's drug industry, the White House drug czar acknowledged in a letter to a key senator.

    The drug czar, John Walters, wrote Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, that retail cocaine prices fell by 11 percent from February 2005 to October 2006, to about $135 per gram of pure cocaine — hovering near the same levels since the early 1990s. In 1981, when the U.S. government began collecting data, a gram of pure cocaine fetched $600.

    The purity of this cocaine, meanwhile, has “trended somewhat toward former levels,” as well, Walters said in the letter, citing data from the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration.

    Colombia supplies 90 percent of the cocaine consumed in the United States. Declining prices and rising purity could also suggest weakening demand, but several household and school-based surveys show that America's cocaine consumption has barely budged since 2000, and demand in Europe has increased.

    Colombia's president, Alvaro Uribe, is set to meet with President Bush at the White House on Wednesday to discuss U.S. support for Plan Colombia, the anti-narcotics and counterinsurgency program that has cost American taxpayers more than $4 billion since 2000.

    Walters' letter to Grassley, the Republican co-chair of the Senate Caucus on International Narcotics Control, was sent in January in response to a request from the senator. It was made available to The Associated Press by the Washington Office on Latin America, a liberal lobby group.

    U.S. officials have insisted repeatedly that Plan Colombia is reducing the quality and availability of to American users.

    But Grassley, in an e-mailed statement to the AP, said the new data is “all the proof that anybody needs” that the White House drug office “has gotten quite good at spinning the numbers, but cooking the books doesn't help our efforts to curb cocaine and heroin production and consumption.”

    Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass., said senior U.S. Embassy officials gave him older, more encouraging data during a visit to Bogota in March — two months after the drug czar quietly released his more downbeat appraisal.

    “We've given this program a chance to work and clearly this is not producing the results we were promised,” McGovern said. “Cocaine is priced as low and purity is as high as it was before Plan Colombia began six years and $5 billion ago.”

    Rafael Lemaitre, a spokesman for the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy, told the AP that Walters would not comment on the letter but Lemaitre described it as “an accurate reflection of our agency's thoughts on the issue.”

    In November 2005, Walters announced that cocaine prices had risen by 19 percent and purity had dropped by about the same. He touted the development as a sign that the United States had turned the corner in the drug war. Drug policy experts rejected his assertions at the time, and Grassley called for his dismissal.

    “When the data show a brief rise in cocaine prices, the drug czar holds a high-profile press conference,” said Adam Isacson, an analyst at the Washington-based Center for International Policy. “But when the trend goes back down again, the drug czar sends it in a letter to one senator. Why is that?”


  • BITEYOASS
    ROTH ARMY ELITE
    • Jan 2004
    • 6529

    #2
    Of course Cocaine has to compete with Meth. Which is the reason for the price drop.

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    • Hardrock69
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Feb 2005
      • 21838

      #3
      I bet Coke sales have dropped a lot due to Meth.....

      But then, what is stupid is that nobody needs "statistics" or "studies" to show the drug war is a failure.

      Anyone with half a brain understands that a "war on drugs" can never be won.

      Fucking pathetic.

      But the government wants to keep up the facade.

      They have to keep the drugs illegal so they can keep making billions by importing cocaine into the US.

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 58754

        #4
        Originally posted by BITEYOASS
        Of course Cocaine has to compete with Meth. Which is the reason for the price drop.
        Well, at least cocaine is plant based.
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        • Hardrock69
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Feb 2005
          • 21838

          #5
          Here is another relevant article:

          The Farce Of
          The War on Drugs
          By Frosty Wooldridge
          4-30-7

          My brother Howard Wooldridge served as a decorated police officer and detective in Lansing, Michigan for 18 years. During that time, he collared killers, drunk drivers, child molesters, rapists, wife beaters and drug dealers. What he learned launched him on a crusade to stop the federal government's useless 35 year "War on Drugs."

          My brother stands so passionate about his cause that he rode his horse Misty 3,300 miles coast to coast across America in 2005. To gain attention, his sweat-stained T-shirt read, "Cops Say Legalize Drugs: Ask Me Why."

          The drug war costs American taxpayers $70 billion a year and over the past 35 years, costs approach a trillion dollars. Result? Drugs remain CHEAPER and MORE available than 35 years ago.

          "The war on drugs," said Howard Wooldridge, one of the founders of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition at www.leap.cc. "How is that working for us in America? Is it reducing crime? Is it reducing rates of death and disease? Is it effective in keeping drugs and drug dealers away from our children? Is it making America safer and more prosperous? As my profession chases drugs, what are we missing? These are important questions as this prohibition approach costs us taxpayers some 70 billion dollars this year."

          Wooldridge said, "As a police officer, I fought on the side of the 'good guys' for 18 years in the "War on Drugs," giving me ample actual experience in the trenches. After much time, consternation and out-and-out frustration in not achieving a single, stated goal in the long term, I came to the conclusion that we must be doing something wrong. It seemed no matter how many dealers we took off the streets, new ones immediately popped up to take their places. The prices for drugs kept falling, indicating an oversupply. The purity became better; heroin increased from 3.6 percent to near 50 percent purity between 1980 and 2007. The prison population kept increasing until over 70 percent of all inmates are there on some drug-related charge. The only thing we have to show for this terrible policy is that today after 36 years and a trillion tax dollars spent, illegal drugs are cheaper, stronger and very easy for our kids to buy."

          In those 18 years, I listened to my brother Howard's frustrations each time we sat down for dinner. He bemoaned the senselessness of the drug war. The people within the department now work it to keep their jobs and nothing else. The "War on Drugs" exists to exist.

          "Why has my profession been unable to make a dent?" Howard Wooldridge asked. "It has not been for lack of trying. Thousands of police officers have been shot and hundreds killed. We have arrested 36 million Americans for drug possession, use or sale. First, understand that drug dealers accept as a condition of employment-- death and long prison terms. We know there is an inexhaustible number of people who will risk death to make huge profits that prohibition generates. A second major reason is that when someone buys an illegal drug from a dealer, nobody calls 911 to report the 'crime.' It is very difficult for us to catch suspects when the phone does not ring. Neither the buyers nor the sellers see themselves as 'victims.'

          "Drug gangs have spread like the plague out of the large cities and into medium and even small cities. Young teens join gangs to make 'easy,' big money selling drugs. Fifteen year olds are shot and killed every week because drug prohibition gives them this job option. Many Hispanic members are the first generation of immigrants who don't want to work hard like their parents. The role model in the barrio is the rich drug dealer, not the hard-working parent. A policy which many say is to protect kids actually causes hundreds of deaths a year and tens of thousands of destroyed young lives."

          For any curious Americans, MS-13 gangs from El Salvador, now numbering 15,000 members, operate in 33 states according to a recent Newsweek report. They recruit our kids with easy money. Once in the gang, their lives stand at risk.

          "On our borders customs officers spend huge amounts of time looking for smuggled drugs which allows them less time for catching the millions who cross illegally," Howard Wooldridge said. "The Coast Guard is focused on drugs and not the ships which bring over many hundreds of illegals in ships. In the century of 9/11 we should be focusing on threats to the nation and instead we are heavily engaged in a nearly four decade, failed policy of drug prohibition.

          "The unintended consequences of this terrible war are needlessly destroying the lives of generations of America's youth. How many people do you know who have used an illegal drug, then put the drugs behind them and gone on to lead productive lives? US presidents, many members of our legislative bodies, tens of thousands of police officers have done exactly that. With imprisonment, those possibilities are eliminated. You can get over an addiction, but you will never get over a conviction

          "Now envision a world where all drugs sell in state-regulated stores, not on street corners by teens which gets them killed. Imagine a world where the federal police focus on securing our borders from armed and unarmed invasion. Envision a world where terrorists don't buy weapons from money made selling drugs. Imagine a world where felony crime drops over 50 percent and local police focus on drunk drivers, child predators and terrorists. Envision a world where if one day you or a loved one has a drug problem, you see a doctor not a judge. America can have this world, if it repeals its laws of the New Prohibition."

          Officer Howard J. Wooldridge (retired), Education Specialist, Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (www.leap.cc), Washington DC





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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 58754

            #6
            The war on drugs and the war on terra are both complete frauds, and for the same reason:

            The source of the drugs and the terrorism is the Bush Criminal Empire.
            Eat Us And Smile

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            • Baby's On Fire
              Veteran
              • May 2004
              • 1747

              #7
              Originally posted by FORD
              The war on drugs and the war on terra are both complete frauds, and for the same reason:

              The source of the drugs and the terrorism is the Bush Criminal Empire.

              And the Spics. Don't forget the Spics.

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              • jharp84
                Veteran
                • Mar 2004
                • 2096

                #8
                I AGREE WITH ALL OF THE ABOVE!!!!! YOU FUCKERS NAILED IT! BIG FUCKIN TIME!!! Juice Oh WHO THE FUCK AM I? I AM THE JUICE! IN seriousness Great post!! G.W YA CACHSUCK - That's hillbilly for Cocksucker!!!

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                • Baby's On Fire
                  Veteran
                  • May 2004
                  • 1747

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jharp84
                  I AGREE WITH ALL OF THE ABOVE!!!!! YOU FUCKERS NAILED IT! BIG FUCKIN TIME!!! Juice Oh WHO THE FUCK AM I? I AM THE JUICE! IN seriousness Great post!! G.W YA CACHSUCK - That's hillbilly for Cocksucker!!!
                  How do you say "cocksuck" in Spic?

                  If you're into cocaine, you should show proper appreciation to the Spics.

                  One of my favourite movies is Carlito's Way. Some good stereotypical Spics in that movie.

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                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 58754

                    #10
                    What color sheets do Canadian Klansmen wear?

                    And do you guys burn crosses or giant wooden maple leafs?
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                    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                    • Baby's On Fire
                      Veteran
                      • May 2004
                      • 1747

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FORD
                      What color sheets do Canadian Klansmen wear?

                      And do you guys burn crosses or giant wooden maple leafs?

                      I was waiting for this. Jesus you can be a dickhead sometimes. Call a spade a spade. You left wing lunatics think EVERYTHING is racist.

                      And does cocaince come from Sweden FORD?

                      Jesust Christ I'm a liberal and think you're way over the top.

                      You need to get a sense of sarcasm and lighten the fuck up.

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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 58754

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Baby's On Fire
                        I was waiting for this. Jesus you can be a dickhead sometimes. Call a spade a spade. You left wing lunatics think EVERYTHING is racist.

                        See, there you go again..... spade is a racist term against blacks!

                        And does cocaince come from Sweden FORD?
                        Any country that produces ABBA, the Volvo, Ace of Base, and the cheese "metal" band Europe must be doing a LOT of drugs!

                        Jesust Christ I'm a liberal and think you're way over the top.

                        You need to get a sense of sarcasm and lighten the fuck up.
                        I don't find a lot of humor in racism. Or homophobia or any of that kind of shit.
                        Eat Us And Smile

                        Cenk For America 2024!!

                        Justice Democrats


                        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                        • Hardrock69
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 21838

                          #13
                          Baby's Shit Is On Fire does though apparently....

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                          • FORD
                            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 58754

                            #14
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                            Eat Us And Smile

                            Cenk For America 2024!!

                            Justice Democrats


                            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32797

                              #15
                              My sister lived in Peru and Equador. The whole countryside is awash in cocoa leaves. The indians chew them and I used them as an altitude sickness medicine while climbing in the Andes. Nothing more than feeling like you had a few cups of coffee. One person I was with was having seriouse problems with the altitude 18,000 feet and the cocoa tea the locals make sure helped.

                              Processed cocain is a distilation of what's in those leaves. I think the local people in South America are too smart to mess with that shit and plus they don't have the money to waste on it. The Pablo Escabars or whoever replaces them are products of Americans in the US having to have their drugs.

                              The sollution? Legalize it but regulate it. Ruin it's value. Cocaine costs pennies to make. Even if 99% of the shipments are siezed that 1% that gets through is still worth being in the cocaine smuggling business.
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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