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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58785

    Chimpy to mother of fallen soldier: "Don't sell this on e bay"!!

    Originally posted: May 31, 2007
    Bush to mother: Don't sell on eBay

    Posted by Mark Silva at 2:30 pm CDT

    Several mothers who have lost children at war in Iraq took part in a new talk show today on National Public Radio.

    One of them, Elaine Johnson, recounted a meeting that she had with President Bush in which he gave her a presidential coin and told her and five other families: "Don’t go sell it on eBay.”

    An excerpt from the interview on NPR's Tell Me More can be heard here.

    The president told her that the war goes on because the U.S. has "a mission'' to complete. But Johnson says she has discovered her own mission now: Fighting to bring the troops home.

    Host Michael Martin asked Johnson: "What about you? Why did you decide to start speaking out? ''

    "My son was killed November 2, 2003,'' Johnson said. "After they had my son’s memorial in Colorado Springs -- that’s Fort Carson -- I was interviewed by the Gazette Newspaper, and that started it all.

    "They said they had a mother or a person to ever lashed out at the president, criticize the president of being insensitive,'' she said. "So a couple of days after that they called me and said that President Bush would like to meet me. And I said well okay, only at his cost because I was not spending my money to meet him.''

    "So he flew about a hundred families back to Fort Carson,'' she recalled.

    "And in the room that I was in it was only me and four more other families. And I asked him questions you know, on um why we were over there? He couldn’t answer that. I said, well what are we fighting for? He said to finish a mission.

    "I said, why was my son and the rest of the soldiers on the Chinook helicopter, which was supposed to be only to transport cargos not humans? He said, well he didn’t know. He referred me to General Wilson, which was in the same room. General Wilson’s response was that they, you know, they was transporting them on that same helicopter and never was shot down.

    "They flew over Fallujah; Fallujah was always the hot spot. Common sense would've tell them, if you fly them over Fallujah, you should have escorts that has the equipment to detect these weapons that would attack the plane.

    "But you know, they so brilliant, they up there in D.C., now, that a mother with a high school diploma can sit down and day, okay, now I won’t send them over a hot spot without protection.

    "President Bush, he just didn’t see that, and he told me I was kind of, seemed like I was kind of hostile. I said, ‘yes I am hostile, because you sent my son over there.’ So my thing is -- all the questions that I asked him, he didn’t know nothing then, and he definitely don’t know nothing now, because the United States is in worser shape now that it was in 2003 that my son died.''

    Martin asked: "So when you left that meeting did you leave with determination to do something or did that happen over time?''

    Johnson said: "When he told me -- I said what’s, what’s the mission? He couldn’t give me an answer. I says, well I’m going to tell you what: I’m on my mission now. My mission had just begun. And my mission is to fight to bring these troops home, to take care of these troops when they get home.

    "Then he gave us a presidential coin,'' she said. "Now you check this out: He gave six of us a presidential coin, tell us not to tell the rest of the people that was there, and then after that he told us don’t go sell it on eBay. Now you tell me how insensitive that can be? What kind of caring person is that?''

    I would have shoved that coin up his monkey ass

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  • Steve Savicki
    • Jan 2004
    • 3937

    #2
    The most uneducated and thus disgraceful leader in history. How does a leader lead not knowing the answers?
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    • vh rides again
      Commando
      • Dec 2006
      • 1058

      #3
      no president no matter how fucked up would ever say that shit.
      he doesnt know what the mission is? im sure he could have given her 10 different reasons and he cant come up with 1?

      this is a bullshit fucking post.
      ford you will put anything up here wont ya?
      get a fucking life, loser. you are pathetic.
      Last edited by vh rides again; 06-03-2007, 12:20 AM.

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      • Nitro Express
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        • Aug 2004
        • 32798

        #4
        Originally posted by Steve Savicki
        The most uneducated and thus disgraceful leader in history. How does a leader lead not knowing the answers?
        Uneducated? Bush looks pretty good on paper. Bachelors degree from Yale and a Harvard MBA. I have no idea what his GPA was.

        The thing is he is dumb in real world time and space. People assumed JFK would be an idiot because his dad basically bought the presidentcy for his son but JFK did pretty good during the Cuban Missle Crises and never lost control of his presedency. The military would have gotten us into a nuclear war. Kennedy held onto his authority and found a different sollution. Bush would have turned everything over and then asked,"What do I say?" Write me a speach.
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        • FORD
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          • Jan 2004
          • 58785

          #5
          Originally posted by vh rides again
          no president no matter how fucked up would ever say that shit.
          he doesnt know what the mission is? im sure he could have given her 10 different reasons and he cant come up with 1?

          this is a bullshit fucking post.
          ford you will put anything up here wont ya?
          get a fucking life, loser. you are pathetic.
          Chimpy can't answer a simple question, so that makes ME pathetic??

          When are you getting the fuck out of my country and going somewhere where they LIKE dictatorships and puppet leaders?
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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 58785

            #6
            Originally posted by Nitro Express
            Uneducated? Bush looks pretty good on paper. Bachelors degree from Yale and a Harvard MBA. I have no idea what his GPA was.

            The thing is he is dumb in real world time and space. People assumed JFK would be an idiot because his dad basically bought the presidentcy for his son but JFK did pretty good during the Cuban Missle Crises and never lost control of his presedency. The military would have gotten us into a nuclear war. Kennedy held onto his authority and found a different sollution. Bush would have turned everything over and then asked,"What do I say?" Write me a speach.
            Can you imagine Chimpy during the Cuban Missile Crisis??

            Never mind, we wouldn't be here to imagine it......
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            • Redballjets88
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              • Mar 2005
              • 4469

              #7
              Originally posted by Steve Savicki
              The most uneducated and thus disgraceful leader in history. How does a leader lead not knowing the answers?
              cant really say he is uneducated...he did go to yale...being dense is a different story
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              • thome
                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                • Mar 2005
                • 6678

                #8
                That letter is a scam a fake, lies and bullsh!t.

                I don't believe a word of it C'mon.

                Be KOOOOOL enough not to end this lieing piece of crap with

                Then he gave us a presidential coin,'' she said. "Now you check this out: He gave six of us a presidential coin, tell us not to tell the rest of the people that was there, and then after that he told us don’t go sell it on eBay. Now you tell me how insensitive that can be? What kind of caring person is that?''


                Trying to paint a lie to manipulate minds is common and everywhere
                but this is the work of a child of exile of the mind.

                Be Slick have some style do a better job of rewriting and repropa-gamming peoples minds, is that all this pud has.sheesh!



                point this Mark Silve fake named pussy out to me and i will teach him how to lie with style.Jagg-off.

                Who do you think we are school children.

                The prob is some people actually believe this and run thier lives ruled by the lies of others .




                Fight the Power!!! MUTHAS!!!!

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                • FORD
                  ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 58785

                  #9
                  Originally posted by thome


                  Who do you think we are school children.

                  No, most school children could type a more coherent reply than yourself.
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                  • vh rides again
                    Commando
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 1058

                    #10
                    Originally posted by FORD
                    Chimpy can't answer a simple question, so that makes ME pathetic??

                    When are you getting the fuck out of my country and going somewhere where they LIKE dictatorships and puppet leaders?
                    are you trying to tell me that a guy that can give a state of the union address, cannot give a person who lost a son a reason that we are in iraq?.
                    ford, the guy is light years ahead of you and 90 percent of americans when it comes to addressing another human being. im sure he could at least come up with 40-50 different reasons if not lies, why her son was there.

                    and the ebay thing is just out of the question, i wont even respond to that.

                    this story is complete bullshit. you yourself should put it in the dump.

                    ill leave this country, when you come back to reality.

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                    • BigBadBrian
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10625

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Steve Savicki
                      The most uneducated and thus disgraceful leader in history. How does a leader lead not knowing the answers?
                      Yale...Harvard.

                      Yeah, he's uneducated.

                      Oh yes, I realize you believe his education was bought and paid for.

                      If you believe it about him, you have to believe it about Kerry, Kennedy, (all of them, even the dead dudes), algore, etc.

                      Savicki, I doubt it if you made it out of High School without blowing the gym coach.

                      :eek:
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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49205

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Redballjets88
                        cant really say he is uneducated...he did go to yale...being dense is a different story
                        True. But he's what's called a "legacy," meaning daddy went there and donates. So, there's little question the Dumbya was on cruise cuntrol...

                        But the main criticism of Bush that is leveled by Al Franken was that Bush was not unintelligent, but that he was lazy and read nothing unless it was something that fitted his preconceived notions. This is dangerous in a president since it only validates what he wanted to believe, and he learns nothing. Hence, he had not fucking clue on the differences between Sunni and Shia Muslims for example. Something I'm pretty sure he knows now...
                        Last edited by Nickdfresh; 06-03-2007, 10:54 AM.

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                        • DrMaddVibe
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                          • Jan 2004
                          • 6682

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                          But the main criticism of Bush that is leveled by Al Franken was that Bush was not unintelligent, but that he was lazy and read nothing unless it was something that fitted his preconceived notions.

                          So, he's just like YOU!
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                          • thome
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                            • Mar 2005
                            • 6678

                            #14
                            Originally posted by FORD
                            No, most school children could type a more coherent reply than yourself.
                            You still don't get it. This is what I am saying -I was not twisted by the
                            "school" system-

                            I cannot type a coherant sentance...my mind is not programed by the
                            "Sin" Doctors of Higher Education. I GET IT.

                            Silve and some others here don't.

                            They never will

                            Free Your Mind to the other side What is eating him up

                            Can you Hear what I'm looking at ..

                            Do you See what i am saying..



                            Fight the Power!

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                            • Ellyllions
                              Veteran
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 2012

                              #15
                              More on Elaine Johnson:

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                              So far, no mention of the coin deal...but I'm still searching

                              ETA: another one:


                              Veterans for Peace have taken mention of her off their web page.

                              Still looking....
                              Last edited by Ellyllions; 06-03-2007, 12:57 PM.
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