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  • Full Bug
    Crazy Ass Mofo
    • Jan 2004
    • 2915

    Computer Simulates World Trade Center Attacks


    Simulation finds 9/11 fireproofing key By STEVE HERMAN, Associated Press Writer


    INDIANAPOLIS - A computer simulation of the 2001 World Trade Center attacks supports a federal agency's findings that the initial impact from the hijacked airplanes stripped away crucial fireproofing material and that the weakened towers collapsed under their own weight.


    The two-year Purdue University study, funded in part by the National Science Foundation, was the first to use 3-D animation to provide visual context to the attacks, said Christoph Hoffmann, a professor of computer science and one of the lead researchers on the project.

    "One thing it does point out... is the absolute essential nature of fireproofing steel structures," Hoffmann told The Associated Press. "This is something that wasn't done originally in the World Trade Center when it was built. It wasn't code at that time."

    Mete Sozen, a professor of structural engineering and a lead investigator on the simulation, said Purdue researchers hope their work leads to better structural design and building codes to prevent similar collapses.

    "In the unfortunate development that we shall have to design structures to survive such events, the methods we have developed and will be developing will be of great use to designers," Sozen said.

    The animation, intended in part to help engineers design safer buildings, begins with a map of lower Manhattan as it appeared on Sept. 11, 2001. The video then shows a plane slicing through several stories of the World Trade Center's north tower and follows the disintegrating plane through the interior and out the opposite side.

    The report concludes that the weight of the aircraft's fuel, when ignited, produced "a flash flood of flaming liquid" that knocked out a number of structural columns within the building and removed the fireproofing insulation from other support structures, Hoffmann said.

    The simulation also found that the airplane's metal skin peeled away shortly after impact and shows how the titanium jet engine shafts flew through the building like bullets.

    Ayhan Irfanoglu, a Purdue professor of civil engineering, said half of the building's weight-bearing columns were concentrated at the cores of the towers.

    "When that part is wiped out, the structure comes down," Irfanoglu said. "We design structures with some extra capacity to cover some uncertainties, but we never anticipate such heavy demand coming from an aircraft impact. If the columns were distributed, maybe, the fire could not take them out so easily."

    A 2005 report following a three-year investigation by the National Institute of Standards and Technology, a federal engineering agency, recommended that cities raise fire standards for skyscrapers and develop new materials that can better protect tall buildings from fire. That analysis did not blame the collapse on the steel or design of the towers, but instead focused on the damage to the fireproofing.

    Shyam Sunder, the lead NIST investigator, said he was aware of the Purdue study and called it and his own agency's study "among probably the most prominent analyses that have been conducted in the United States."

    The animation is the latest project by the Purdue team to assess the structural damage from the Sept. 11 attacks. The team also studied the impact of the crash into the Pentagon.

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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58754

    #2
    They have computer simulations that "prove" Oswald was the lone gunman also. Even though it's impossible.

    A computer will give you exactly the results it is programmed to give you.

    "flash flood of flaming liquid"??

    That's completely ridiculous, especially in the second tower where the majority of the jet fuel burned off OUTSIDE of the building.

    As far as the buildings outer skin "peeling away" goes, if that was the case, then it would have continued to do so, like a pair of giant metal bananas, and the collapse of the building would have been much slower and uneven.

    Instead you have this outer steel blown to bits along with the inner columns, and Thermate residue present on both, which is evidence of demolition explosives.
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    • ELVIS
      Banned
      • Dec 2003
      • 44120

      #3
      Get the fuck out of here with that nonsense, FORD...

      The buildings went down as a result of airplanes hitting them!

      Building number 7 (or whatever it's called) went down after falling debris from one ot the towers weakened it's foundation...

      It's all been proven and documented in great detail...




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      • Redballjets88
        Full Member Status

        • Mar 2005
        • 4453

        #4
        no elvis the morning of 9-11 bush went in the building and put bombs throughout with no one noticing...duh
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        hopefully God will ressurect you

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        " I liked Sammy Hagar " FORD

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        • ELVIS
          Banned
          • Dec 2003
          • 44120

          #5
          Yeah, he's supposedly the dumbest President in history, but on the other hand he's a genius who pulled off a controlled demolition of three buildings in New York, sent a missile into the Pentagon and shot down a plane that was intended to hit the White House...

          All while reading to children in Florida, the perfect cover up...


          Hahaha...makes me laugh just trying to type this garbage...


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          • ELVIS
            Banned
            • Dec 2003
            • 44120

            #6
            Oh, and I heard that his hurricane remote controller is repaired and ready to pick up, so look out!!!

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            • Redballjets88
              Full Member Status

              • Mar 2005
              • 4453

              #7
              it is holy shit damn what will he do next.
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              hopefully God will ressurect you

              "i wont be messing with you in future.the fearsome redballjets88 for fear of you owning me some more" Axl S


              " I liked Sammy Hagar " FORD

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              • diamondD
                Veteran
                • Jan 2004
                • 1962

                #8
                Originally posted by FORD
                [B]
                As far as the buildings outer skin "peeling away" goes, if that was the case, then it would have continued to do so, like a pair of giant metal bananas, and the collapse of the building would have been much slower and uneven.

                B]
                Actually, the article is stating that it was the airplane's metal skin peeling away, but don't let facts get in the way of a perfectly disturbed spin.


                Who says all of the fuel burned on the outside? Which experts are you quoting that offer this alternative theory?
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                • FORD
                  ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 58754

                  #9
                  Originally posted by diamondD
                  Actually, the article is stating that it was the airplane's metal skin peeling away, but don't let facts get in the way of a perfectly disturbed spin.


                  Who says all of the fuel burned on the outside? Which experts are you quoting that offer this alternative theory?
                  A picture's worth 1000 words, Jeff......



                  Because the second plane, whether by design or by accident, did not hit the target in the center of the floor, it caused most of the jet fuel to be blown out of the side of the building, hence the huge orange fireball.

                  Also there's the fact that both towers stopped showing any signs of flames within a few minutes after impact, and it was all smoke coming from both towers at the time of the collapse. There was not enough fuel inside the buildings to sustain this hot fire and all that was burning by then was the interiors of the buildings themselves. Furnishings, paper, carpet, etc. None of which burn hot enough to melt steel.

                  But Thermate does.
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                  • ELVIS
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 44120

                    #10
                    Ok Rosie...

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                    • knuckleboner
                      Crazy Ass Mofo
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 2927

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FORD
                      They have computer simulations that "prove" Oswald was the lone gunman also. Even though it's impossible.

                      um...it's totally possible that oswald was the lone gunman. getting off the required 3 shots in the required time using that weapon has been duplicated.

                      that you or i may say it's unlikely that it happened exactly that way is one thing. but it's not impossible.

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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 58754

                        #12
                        Originally posted by knuckleboner


                        that you or i may say it's unlikely that it happened exactly that way is one thing. but it's not impossible.
                        You're right. Oswald was unlikely. Sirhan was impossible.

                        (RFK was killed by a point blank shot behind his right ear, and Sirhan was in front of him at all times. But I've seen a computer simulation of that one too. And laughed through the entire thing.)
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                        • stringfelowhawk
                          Foot Soldier
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 559

                          #13
                          Well, I'm not taking sides here I just remembered this line from JFK and thought it summed up this debate by showing that neither side will give ground therefore, it is a continuous loop.

                          "Physics says an elephant can hang over the side of a cliff with its tail tied to a daisy. But use your common sense."

                          Or some shit like that!
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                          • Seshmeister
                            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                            • Oct 2003
                            • 35158

                            #14
                            Originally posted by FORD
                            A picture's worth 1000 words, Jeff......



                            Because the second plane, whether by design or by accident, did not hit the target in the center of the floor, it caused most of the jet fuel to be blown out of the side of the building, hence the huge orange fireball.

                            Also there's the fact that both towers stopped showing any signs of flames within a few minutes after impact, and it was all smoke coming from both towers at the time of the collapse. There was not enough fuel inside the buildings to sustain this hot fire and all that was burning by then was the interiors of the buildings themselves. Furnishings, paper, carpet, etc. None of which burn hot enough to melt steel.

                            But Thermate does.

                            From which University did you get your Phd in structural engineering that gives you the right to disagree with all of the experts in the world in this field?

                            Or did you just get this shit from a stupid internet conspiracy website...?

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                            • sadaist
                              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 11625

                              #15
                              Originally posted by FORD

                              Because the second plane, whether by design or by accident, did not hit the target in the center of the floor, it caused most of the jet fuel to be blown out of the side of the building, hence the huge orange fireball.
                              How do you know that the orange fireball you are referring to represents "most" of the jet fuel? Has the size and temperature of the fireball been measured to determine how much of the fuel on board the aircraft it would have taken to cause it? How much fuel remained to ignite inside the building?
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