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  • Satan
    ROTH ARMY ELITE
    • Jan 2004
    • 6666

    Fascist RIAA Eyes Next Possible Targets: CD Burners, Radio Listeners

    RIAA Eyes Next Possible Targets: CD Burners, Radio Listeners

    Jason Mick (Blog) - October 9, 2007 8:54 AM

    The RIAA's recent case and a pending case in the UK provide some insight into whom it might prosecute next

    The Recording Industry Association of America is the oft villainized copyright-infringement watchdog for the music industry in the U.S. Its letters to music sharers have led to thousands of settlement over the last few years. Now, following its recent success in the jury civil trial Capitol Records, et al v. Jammie Thomas, which resulted in a jury verdict of $222,000 in damages, many wonder who the RIAA might target next.

    The RIAA might have given a clue during testimony by music industry lawyers in the Thomas case. During the case Jennifer Pariser, the head of litigation for Sony BMG, was called to testify. Pariser noted that music labels make no money on bands touring, radio, or merchandise, so they are particularly vulnerable to file sharing. She went on to say that when people steal music the label is harmed.

    Pariser believes in a very broad definition of stealing that is echoed by many supporters in the RIAA. She believes that users who buy songs are entitled to one, and only one copy. Burning CDs is just another name for stealing, in her mind. "When an individual makes a copy of a song for himself, I suppose we can say he stole a song." Making "a copy" of a purchased song is just "a nice way of saying 'steals just one copy'."

    Such logic has been a driving force behind efforts to "rights manage" music including the current DRM found on Apple's iTunes files and Microsoft's DRM, which is also widespread.

    While it seems unlikely that the RIAA would be able to effectively identify "burners", such litigation remains a legal possibility for the RIAA and major music labels, in the minds of their lawyers.

    Another possible avenue of legal action for the RIAA is the pursuit of businesses that play unauthorized music in stores. The Performing Rights Society (PRS), Britain's version of the RIAA, may give the RIAA some possible ideas with its pending litigation. The PRS is suing the Kwik Fit Group, a car repair shop in Edinburgh, for £200,000 in damages. The case revolves around the complaint that Kwik Fit employees brought in personal radios which they played while working on cars, which could be heard by colleagues and customers. The PRS says this amounts to a public "performance" and should have entailed royalties.

    The possible implications if this litigation succeeds are numerous. The RIAA could pursue retailers like Borders Books who play music in their restrooms or on their store floors. They could also seek action against small businesses that have radios in their stores.

    These possible future targets may seem outlandish or farfetched, but the RIAA and its foreign equivalents have some heavy legal firepower. It hires many of the country's top lawyers and have gained millions in settlements and recently have added the $222,000 Thomas verdict to its coffers.

    Some fear the RIAA is overstepping its bounds, including in the Thomas case. Rep. Rick Boucher, a Virginia Democrat, and strong advocate of fair use, recently went on record stating that the trial verdict was excessive and "way out of line" with other cases of this nature.

    The Bush Administration feels that the case was very fair and was a positive example of our nation's laws at work.

    Well that fucking figures....

    "Cases such as this remind us strong enforcement is a significant part of the effort to eliminate piracy, and that we have an effective legal system in the U.S. that enables rights holders to protect their intellectual property."

    With the RIAA's powerful legal, financial, and political backers nobody can truly say what it impossible for it to accomplish. Now as it is in the midst of delivering its eighth wave of infringement letters to colleges, it may soon be turning its attention to CD burners or businesses that play music in front of customers.




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  • Coyote
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Jan 2004
    • 8185

    #2
    Cunts!!
    Why settle for something you have, if it's not as good as something you're out to get?

    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    It's like putting up a YouTube of Bach and playing Chopstix on your Bontempi...

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    • NATEDOG001976
      Veteran
      • Apr 2004
      • 2369

      #3
      BRING THEM ON!!!
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      • Nickdfresh
        SUPER MODERATOR

        • Oct 2004
        • 49125

        #4
        I got an idea. Instead of worrying about "music pirates," why doesn't the RIAA put more effort into lowering the price of CDs to reflect the ever decreasing manufacturing costs?

        The truth is that they fucked themselves by price-gouging throughout the late 80s and 90s as recording CDs became cheaper and yet prices stayed high or even soared, even though these were boon times as people replaced their vinyl and tapes with redundant copies of albums...

        And put out new and better products that cannot be mimicked by schmucks on their home computers instead of this vain and fruitless effort to recoup perceived losses that are often dubiously calculated. They're always blaming red-herrings for this crap (radio recording, cassettes, bootlegs, CD burners, MP3s, etc). Even when they were booming in profits they still hunted copyright violations to the letter, but in violation of the spirit, of the law..

        There are some Van Halen songs I've bought up to four-times over now (vinyl, cassette, CD, CD-remaster).

        I think I pretty much have the right to do what I want with those songs in regards to personal use at this point...
        Last edited by Nickdfresh; 10-09-2007, 03:15 PM.

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        • Ellyllions
          Veteran
          • Mar 2006
          • 2012

          #5
          It's so hard to watch them fight in the throws of death. 'Cause that's what this all is...a last clamour for something as they're going down.

          True Story that just happened yesterday...
          A remix of a Duran Duran song surfaced on limewire. The latest single "Falling Down" had been remixed with bits and pieces of old Duran tunes. I got an email from a friend that she'd upload it to YouSendIt for me if I wanted it. I respectfully declined as I'm not really into what they're doing this go round and I especially HATE remixes. (*note: if you gotta remix it, it sounds like shit)

          Well, I've got another friend who works for Sony that emailed me with a "you're not going to believe what's happened". Seems that the remix was something that Sony was officially working on and was supposed to be known only to Sony. She went on in her email complaining that Sony has a leak in it's very own camp.

          So while we're being persued and sued, some of the stealing is going on right within their own company....nice.
          Last edited by Ellyllions; 10-09-2007, 03:14 PM.
          "If our country is worth dying for in time of war let us resolve that it is truly worth living for in time of peace." - Hamilton Fish

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          • Warham
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Mar 2004
            • 14587

            #6
            All I had to read was the word 'fascist' in the main forum to know that FORD posted this.

            It has to be one of his five favorite words of all-time.

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            • Coyote
              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
              • Jan 2004
              • 8185

              #7
              Originally posted by Nickdfresh
              I got an idea. Instead of worrying about "music pirates," why doesn't the RIAA put more effort into lowering the price of CDs to reflect the ever decreasing manufacturing costs?

              And put out new and better products that cannot be mimicked by schmucks on their home computers instead of this vain and fruitless effort to recoup perceived losses that are often dubiously calculated...
              Here's another idea: PUT OUT MORE ADVENTUROUS MUSIC! TAKE A FUCKIN' CHANCE!

              Who the fuck wants to see yet another Pro-Tooled-to-death clone band?
              Why settle for something you have, if it's not as good as something you're out to get?

              Originally posted by Seshmeister
              It's like putting up a YouTube of Bach and playing Chopstix on your Bontempi...

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              • Warham
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Mar 2004
                • 14587

                #8
                The 1960s are dead, Coyote.

                It's depressing, but the best rock music has already been recorded.

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49125

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Coyote
                  Here's another idea: PUT OUT MORE ADVENTUROUS MUSIC! TAKE A FUCKIN' CHANCE!

                  Who the fuck wants to see yet another Pro-Tooled-to-death clone band?
                  True.

                  And how about supporting a new technology over CDs, which were designed in the early 1970s?

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                  • Ellyllions
                    Veteran
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 2012

                    #10
                    Originally posted by WAR
                    The 1960s are dead, Coyote.

                    It's depressing, but the best rock music has already been recorded.
                    Wolfmother


                    That is all.
                    "If our country is worth dying for in time of war let us resolve that it is truly worth living for in time of peace." - Hamilton Fish

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                    • Warham
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 14587

                      #11
                      I shouldn't say depressing. If you don't mind living in the past, it's fine.

                      I also should say that great music is still being released, it's just not groundbreaking or genre-changing like it was thirty years ago. You won't be hearing a 'Sgt. Pepper's' again any time soon.

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                      • Satan
                        ROTH ARMY ELITE
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 6666

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Coyote
                        Here's another idea: PUT OUT MORE ADVENTUROUS MUSIC! TAKE A FUCKIN' CHANCE!

                        Who the fuck wants to see yet another Pro-Tooled-to-death clone band?
                        Exactly.... the RIAA will cry on cue about how their sales have tanked in the last decade since broadband internet became available, but they always fail to mention the fact that the state of major label music in the same time period has gone to Heaven in a handbasket!.

                        It's not that people would rather "steal" music than buy it. It's that there's very little WORTH BUYING. Or stealing, for that matter.

                        And then, even when you DO buy one of their CD's, half of them are encoded with some fascist crap code which makes it impossible to play some thing that YOU OWN on your own fucking hardware.

                        These pieces of shit are cutting their own throat. This Devil will NEVER pay for lossy files though, so if you put out music worth buying, Hell will always provide customers.
                        Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

                        Originally posted by Sockfucker
                        I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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                        • Hyman Roth
                          Veteran
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 1817

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                          ....vain and fruitless effort ...
                          Yup. Get behind the times, music industry, or the times are going to
                          leave you in the dust. "The times there're-a changin'". And fast!
                          Trollidillo-T

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                          • Ellyllions
                            Veteran
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 2012

                            #14
                            I don't understand their stance on cd's as in "albums". From what I've seen the industry is more in the business of making one hit wonders than entire albums...ya know?
                            "If our country is worth dying for in time of war let us resolve that it is truly worth living for in time of peace." - Hamilton Fish

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                            • Warham
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 14587

                              #15
                              You are right, Elly. Especially with iTunes and downloading being so popular.

                              The industry is going back to the days of the late 50s-early 60s, where artists would have a couple hits, and then surround it with filler to make up a releasable album.

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