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Ellyllions
10-10-2007, 08:58 AM
Last night, hubby and I were discussing the show (again). We're both pretty enamoured at this point.

But hubby asked an interesting question:
Wonder what's happening with CVH record sales as a result of this tour?

Now, I wanna know how to find out!

I was at Wal-mart yesterday and browsed through the cd's. CVH was there and marked at $11.44 per album. "Women and Children first", VH I, VH II, and 1984. With one lone copy of "5150".

So obviously, the stocking of shelves has happened.

How do we find out if the album sales have increased, by how much, and which albums are the selling the best?
Hardrock69
10-10-2007, 09:01 AM
Speak wif someone who has access to Soundscan numbers.

You have to have a subscription, and must be a retailer or industry person to have one.
NATEDOG001976
10-10-2007, 11:10 AM
I used to have a billboard membership and could look up any album sales. VH1 & 1984 still sell at a steady pace yearly, I'd say roughly 50,00 to 100,000+ each year on top of the 10+ million they have already sold with those cd's each. I'm sure the tour wil help that cause.
jero
10-11-2007, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by NATEDOG001976
I used to have a billboard membership and could look up any album sales. VH1 & 1984 still sell at a steady pace yearly, I'd say roughly 50,00 to 100,000+ each year on top of the 10+ million they have already sold with those cd's each. I'm sure the tour wil help that cause.

1984 and VH1, each sold more then 25 million worldwide. I think everybody attending the shows have all the albums already...
How is airplay in the US these day?
NATEDOG001976
10-11-2007, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by jero
1984 and VH1, each sold more then 25 million worldwide. I think everybody attending the shows have all the albums already...
How is airplay in the US these day?

I was talking about sales in the US, that's all that matters anyways.
binnie
10-11-2007, 11:20 AM
Originally posted by NATEDOG001976
I was talking about sales in the US, that's all that matters anyways.

You don't think that worldwide sales are important?
NATEDOG001976
10-11-2007, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by binnie
You don't think that worldwide sales are important?

Slightly, where would you rather be bigger? The US or the uk? The US or Japan?
binnie
10-11-2007, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by NATEDOG001976
Slightly, where would you rather be bigger? The US or the uk? The US or Japan?

Yeah, everyone would rather be bigger in the States. Having said that, the rest of the world allows artists to sell a LOT of records.....
sadaist
10-11-2007, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by jero
1984 and VH1, each sold more then 25 million worldwide. I think everybody attending the shows have all the albums already...
How is airplay in the US these day?

In the Los Angeles & San Diego markets they've always been played a lot. However they have been getting more airplay since the reunion was announced. And more obscure songs instead of just Panama & Jump.
Big Troubles
10-11-2007, 01:30 PM
more like 5,000 units sold per day -international.

http://www.avrev.com/bands/

top 100 of all time. ranked 4th.
NATEDOG001976
10-11-2007, 01:39 PM
Minneapolis is Van Halen friendly on the radio. Maybe that's why Roth has been here so many times in the last 12 years of so.
Ellyllions
10-11-2007, 02:04 PM
Not everyone who's gone on this tour will have the albums. And even some of those who do, could decide to upgrade to cds or even just purchase the albums again re-mastered or what-not.

Album sales are likely to go up again, I wish someone would do an article about it.
Nickdfresh
10-11-2007, 02:15 PM
I noticed the local Target, which only previously would carry the 'Best of(s),' is now carrying "1984" and seemed to be almost sold out (I only saw like two copies left)...
NATEDOG001976
10-11-2007, 02:19 PM
I was all over the remastered CD's when they came out, they sound great!
Big Troubles
10-11-2007, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I noticed the local Target, which only previously would carry the 'Best of(s),' is now carrying "1984" and seemed to be almost sold out (I only saw like two copies left)...

The first Best Of is still a good seller, while 1984, VH 1 and FW do well based on the songs that each album provides. (According to a WalMart employee) lol

He did say that when a band goes on tour, the record co. pushes the "most likely to be sold albums" during that period of time.

Thenagain...This comes from a 20 somethin' wal-mart employee so... u know...
Big Troubles
10-11-2007, 06:42 PM
and I seriously doubt there will be any new material worth getting excited about. IMO if there were to be any new material, at all, they would have played something during the 2 hour long concert. Like on the 82 tour.
ELVIS
10-11-2007, 06:58 PM
The stocking of shelves happened back when the tour was supposed to happen the first time...

Then walmart dropped the price down to $7.50 due to overstocking, I suppose...

Now they're back up to $11.44 or whatever...


:elvis:
Dan
10-11-2007, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by NATEDOG001976
I was talking about sales in the US, that's all that matters anyways.

WTF?

Sales WorldWide And The US,That's What Matters.
ELVIS
10-11-2007, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by Big Troubles
more like 5,000 units sold per day -international.

http://www.avrev.com/bands/

top 100 of all time. ranked 4th.

Best thing you ever posted!


:elvis:
chi-town324
10-11-2007, 07:14 PM
we always (even before the tour) get a heavy dose of VH1 and 1984 on the air in Chicago...i imagine its the same all around the states
NATEDOG001976
10-11-2007, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by chi-town324
we always (even before the tour) get a heavy dose of VH1 and 1984 on the air in Chicago...i imagine its the same all around the states

Pretty much.
ELVIS
10-11-2007, 07:38 PM
No it isn't...
Va Beach VH Fan
10-11-2007, 08:32 PM
According to RIAA, the last update to a Roth/VH album was in 2004, when VH II went over 5 million....

As of right now, the first six albums stand at;

VH - 10 million
VH II - 5 million
WACF - 3 million
FW - 2 million
DD - 4 million
1984 - 10 million
chi-town324
10-11-2007, 08:52 PM
only 2 mill for FW..most of us think its the best one..
jero
10-12-2007, 02:27 AM
Originally posted by NATEDOG001976
I was talking about sales in the US, that's all that matters anyways.

I'll bet Dave likes the royalties from outside the US too
binnie
10-12-2007, 02:52 AM
Originally posted by chi-town324
only 2 mill for FW..most of us think its the best one..

Yup: it's a crime that more people don't own that album...
jhale667
10-12-2007, 03:01 AM
Originally posted by chi-town324
only 2 mill for FW..most of us think its the best one..

That's usually how that works, though...
A band's least commercially successful/critically acclaimed releases are usually the darkest and most exploratory musically...
BITEYOASS
10-12-2007, 10:38 AM
This link might help:

http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?table=SEARCH_RESULTS
BITEYOASS
10-12-2007, 10:41 AM
Damn, here we go. Hope the link doesn't fuck up:

http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?table=SEARCH
rwc
10-12-2007, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by BITEYOASS
Damn, here we go. Hope the link doesn't fuck up:

http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?table=SEARCH

Note that the Soundtrack from Forest Gump sold more copies than any Van Halen album.

That is exactly why I don't give a rip about album sales or rankings...
DLR'sCock
10-12-2007, 11:30 AM
According to a press release from Van Halen for the 2004 tour, VH has sold more than 80 million albums worldwide.


Let it be known that Van HALEN has outsold Van Hagar 2 to 1.
Mezro
10-12-2007, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by Ellyllions
I was at Wal-mart yesterday

*Snicker*

Did you buy any guns or fishing lures?

Mezro...how about deer pheromones?...I hear they are big sellers with the Walmart crowd;)...
Halen High
10-12-2007, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by NATEDOG001976
I was talking about sales in the US, that's all that matters anyways.

Mate......there's more to the world than just the good old USA!!!
Halen High
10-12-2007, 10:43 PM
Originally posted by Ellyllions
Not everyone who's gone on this tour will have the albums. And even some of those who do, could decide to upgrade to cds or even just purchase the albums again re-mastered or what-not.

Album sales are likely to go up again, I wish someone would do an article about it.

CVH album sales will definately rise as a result of this tour. A lot of younger, and in some instances, older rock fans will be exposed to the music of the CVH era and will want to listen to it at home.

In Australia, we saw this kind of reaction to Kiss when they did their reunion in the mid-late 90s. Heaps of magazine features on their early years, teenagers walking around in vintage Kiss t-shirts, and a lot more of their early music on the radio.

Coupled with the current interest in retro rock bands from the 70s/80s, we can expect VH to capitalise in the same way.
Big Troubles
10-13-2007, 01:52 AM
Originally posted by ELVIS
Best thing you ever posted!


:elvis:

are ya sure? I have over 8,ooo now you know.

:D
Big Troubles
10-13-2007, 01:55 AM
Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
According to RIAA, the last update to a Roth/VH album was in 2004, when VH II went over 5 million....

As of right now, the first six albums stand at;

VH - 10 million
VH II - 5 million
WACF - 3 million
FW - 2 million
DD - 4 million
1984 - 10 million

VH and 84 hit Diamond a few years back, didnt they? I read that FW had 2 million sold a few years ago too. Im sure thats up. Maybe not DD though. :p
Tiki-Tom
10-13-2007, 02:28 AM
Originally posted by NATEDOG001976
I was talking about sales in the US, that's all that matters anyways.

I love the US as much as anybody, but these days the rest of the world is a lot more loyal towards bands than the people here in this country. They would be crazy not to consider all markets.

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9iby4NFZRBHJzUAbBGjzbkF/SIG=13jijk5kh/EXP=1192343237/**http%3A//a1259.g.akamai.net/f/1259/5586/5d/images.art.com/images/-/Bowl-of-Stupid--C11749983.jpeg
Dan
10-13-2007, 02:35 AM
Originally posted by Tiki-Tom
I love the US as much as anybody, but these days the rest of the world is a lot more loyal towards bands than the people here in this country. They would be crazy not to consider all markets.

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A9iby4NFZRBHJzUAbBGjzbkF/SIG=13jijk5kh/EXP=1192343237/**http%3A//a1259.g.akamai.net/f/1259/5586/5d/images.art.com/images/-/Bowl-of-Stupid--C11749983.jpeg

Kia Ora Tiki-Tom.:)
Tiki-Tom
10-13-2007, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by Dan
Kia Ora Tiki-Tom.:)

Tena koe, Dan. Can't forget those Maori fans. CVH fans on your little piece of the globe deserve to be counted, too:)
Dan
10-13-2007, 03:10 AM
Originally posted by Tiki-Tom
Tena koe, Dan. Can't forget those Maori fans. CVH fans on your little piece of the globe deserve to be counted, too:)

We Still Can "Dance The Night Away" Down Here.
Jay45
10-17-2007, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by jero
I'll bet Dave likes the royalties from outside the US too

You know he does:D And I think record sales are important everywhere.We are not the only sizable market and loads of European and Asian kids have plenty of disposable cash.So yeah their money matters.And I hope they like our band too.Europe deserves a VH tour.Van Halen was very popular in Germany, UK, and throughout Western Europe.Van Halen travels well and would probably tear the roofs off the new sports arenas of Eastern Europe that have cropped up ince the band was last over there.Here is to a long future with Van Halen.
binnie
10-18-2007, 03:22 AM
Originally posted by Tiki-Tom
I love the US as much as anybody, but these days the rest of the world is a lot more loyal towards bands than the people here in this country. They would be crazy not to consider all markets.


If they were to tour the UK, back catalogue sales woudl increase considerably: they are not as much a part of popular culture here as they are inthe US, and consequently not as many people own the albums.

when Motley Cure toured here it created a lot of sales.
flappo
10-18-2007, 03:26 AM
everyone knows sammy outsold dave , in fact sammy outsold everyone including the beatles and elvis and ac/dc put together

mainly cos he's the worlds biggest fucking sell out
jero
10-18-2007, 03:48 AM
Originally posted by Jay45
Europe deserves a VH tour.Van Halen was very popular in Germany, UK, and throughout Western Europe.

Van Halen should come home to Holland and start their European tour overhere.