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LoungeMachine
10-10-2007, 01:29 PM
House GOP has reasons to pack it in
House GOP has reasons to pack it in

By: Ryan Grim
Oct 9, 2007 06:13 AM EST



Rep. Ray LaHood said that the Democrats’ new five-day workweek made traveling back home that much more difficult.


House Republicans say there is a growing list of reasons to call for congressional career quits, from tighter travel restrictions to lobby-reform requirements and the likelihood of continuing minority status.

Yet only nine members of the GOP caucus have so far announced retirements. If you were a House Republican, would you run for reelection?

Rep. Ray LaHood (R-Ill.), 61, one of those who announced he’s packing it in, said that the Democrats’ new five-day workweek made traveling back home that much more difficult.

“I do think the schedule and the flying is a huge pain for people, particularly those who are from the Midwest or even further West,” he said, adding that it’s “probably the worst part of the job.”

“I think that has played into these retirement announcements,” said the seven-term congressman from Peoria.

Former Rep. Martin Frost (D-Texas), who chaired the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in 1996, said it’s tough to stop retirements. “You have to constantly try to prop people up,” he said. “You lose staff. Sometimes you lose committee assignments. You lose committee staff.”

To a member in the minority, a number of options are attractive, he said, including runs for governor or the Senate or a more lucrative career lobbying. “The ink was hardly dry on [Pete V.] Domenici’s statement before [Rep. Heather Wilson (R-N.M.)] jumped in the race,” said Frost, referring to the Republican senator from New Mexico who recently announced his retirement.


Money comes into play, too. “That’s a real issue for a lot of members who are concerned about planning for their own retirement or who may have children who haven’t gone to college yet,” he said.

In 1996, there was no mass exodus of congressional Democrats after the party lost the majority in 1994 following 40 years of dominance, which impressed long-serving Republicans. “We thought there would be [a mass departure], but there wasn’t,” said Republican Rep. Sam Johnson, a nine-term Texan who turns 77 this week. Twenty-eight Democrats and 21 House Republicans left the House in 1996.

This time could be different, he said, citing travel restrictions and lobbying reform. “We’re prevented from having a hamburger with someone,” he said. “You can’t take a private plane anymore. ... I feel for the guys that are way out there” on the West Coast or in the Midwest, said Johnson, who can catch a nonstop flight to Dallas.

Rep. Mike Simpson (R-Idaho) is one of the guys Johnson is feeling for. Simpson, 57, connects through Salt Lake City and often leaves on Sunday to get to Washington on Monday. Getting back home, though, is the real problem.

Recently, the airlines determined that members of Congress could no longer reserve more than one flight at a time. Because the general public can’t do the same thing, the privilege was deemed a gift under the new lobbying reform guidelines.

That makes life tough for people like Simpson, in his fifth term, who rarely knows exactly when the work will end in Washington. “I don’t have a plane going to Idaho every two hours,” he said. “Those flights fill up if I don’t book a week in advance.”

Warham
10-10-2007, 01:30 PM
BOO HOO!

LoungeMachine
10-10-2007, 01:31 PM
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Simpson said he has lobbied leadership to create an exemption to the lobbying rules, saying that the new rule could drive more members into retirement. Last week, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) jointly moved to allow the multiple reservations, but the ethics committee has yet to make a final decision. Simpson also agreed with Johnson that lobbying reform would be a factor. “We’re basically all going to be felons. I guarantee you every one of us will accidentally break one of those rules at some point,” Simpson said.

Florida Rep. Adam Putnam, 33, the third-ranking House Republican, agreed. “It raises the stress factor that you would get tripped up on something small.”

Whether intentional or not, the new five-day workweek, cited by Republicans as a factor in retirement decisions, is most harmful to the GOP. “The net result is that it’s harder on members in rural districts than ones in urban areas with large airports. If you live in Boston, you can catch a flight every half-hour,” Putnam said. Urban districts tend to be Democratic, whereas rural ones are Republican.

There are exceptions, though. “Their majority-makers are in those rural areas,” said Putnam, referring to the class of freshmen that helped sweep Congress for the Democrats, “and they’re the vulnerable ones, the ones that need to be home with their constituents. They need to be able to know for certain they can make the Rotary Club meeting.”

Putnam said he looks back at the 1996 cycle as an example of a party having the fortitude to stick around. “Look at guys like Dingell and Rangel; they’ve persevered,” he said, referring to Democratic Reps. John Dingell of Michigan, 81, and Charles B. Rangel of New York, 77. The two — along with Democratic Reps. Henry Waxman of California, 68, and James L. Oberstar of Minnesota, 73 — wandered for 12 years in the minority after the GOP takeover of 1994 cost them chairmanships.

Frost said his effort to combat retirements started soon after the landslide losses in 1994, as he sought to convince party members that they’d soon return to the majority. “We had a buddy system. We took all potential retirees and we assigned them to some of the more senior members of Congress and asked them to talk to them and urge them to stay,” he said.

It’s a move that won them admiration from across the aisle. “Now they’re reaping the fruits of the benefit of being the majority party, because they’re chairing these big, important committees,” said LaHood. “These guys have been around a long time, and they hung in there, and obviously some of our members aren’t willing to do that,” he said, adding that “a couple” of senior Republicans will likely retire “later this year.”

Rangel, though, said the credit for his endurance goes to his own misplaced optimism. “I couldn’t believe we had lost. I went to bed, and when I woke up I thought it was a bad dream. I convinced myself every two years that we could win” back the House, he said. “I worked very closely with [then-Minority Leader Dick] Gephardt, and he believed it, too.”

Still, Rangel thinks it’ll be worse for the Republican Party. “We may have been overly optimistic, but hell, I don’t remember it being this bad,” he said of the GOP’s future, citing an unpopular president, a war going badly and no exciting presidential candidates. “What was the word Carter used to describe the country?”

That would be “malaise.” Putnam, acknowledging that it’s “no fun to be in the minority,” showed a little of it himself when talking about possible retirements. “Wait. Is Simpson retiring?” he asked this reporter, who told him that he was not. “Good. I thought I had a new one to worry about. And Sam Johnson’s running again? Good.”

“I’ll give you a list of people to ask and you can tally them up for me,” he said.

LoungeMachine
10-10-2007, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine



and the likelihood of continuing minority status.

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LMMFAO

If we can't be in the majority, we're going home....

waaaaaaaahhhh :(

Too fucking funny.

NATEDOG001976
10-11-2007, 03:31 PM
Lounge:

So wee will see you in Minneapolis for the National Rep. Convention next year then?

NATEDOG001976
10-11-2007, 04:35 PM
Originally posted by NATEDOG001976
Lounge:

So wee will see you in Minneapolis for the National Rep. Convention next year then?

I'm shocked why they are coming to Minneapolis??

Nitro Express
10-11-2007, 05:05 PM
I say keep them home and out of Washington. With modern networking they could stay in their home districts and vote securely via computer. Hey, we trust computer networks with our money so why not the votes of congress?

Having each senator and congressman at home lets them be more available to the people they represent and it cuts travel and housing costs. Also, it makes it way harder for lobbiest to bribe the fuckers when they are all over the place than in Washington DC. It would make them harder to buy.

Nitro Express
10-11-2007, 05:08 PM
Originally posted by NATEDOG001976
I'm shocked why they are coming to Minneapolis??

Them Republicans dig the gay bathroom sex in Minneapolis. Senator Craig couldn't wait for the convention, he was taping for his thrill early.

NATEDOG001976
10-11-2007, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by Nitro Express
Them Republicans dig the gay bathroom sex in Minneapolis. Senator Craig couldn't wait for the convention, he was taping for his thrill early.

Gop has not won the state of Minnesota since the 50's

Nickdfresh
10-11-2007, 05:13 PM
You think Al Franken might (as senator)?

NATEDOG001976
10-11-2007, 05:21 PM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
You think Al Franken might (as senator)?

He has a good shot.

Nitro Express
10-12-2007, 03:51 AM
Originally posted by NATEDOG001976
Gop has not won the state of Minnesota since the 50's

It's not about winning. It's about the gay sex. Apparently, Minnesotan fags ream ass and blow dick especially well.

Nitro Express
10-12-2007, 03:53 AM
Originally posted by Nickdfresh
You think Al Franken might (as senator)?

The way he looks and talks, you would think he was gay but that actually means he's straight. It's the Republicans who pass all the anti-gay legistation that will ass rape you in the bathroom.

Lqskdiver
10-12-2007, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by LoungeMachine
House GOP has reasons to pack it in
House GOP has reasons to pack it in


Sure enough, this thread has deteriorated into locker room jokes and homo jabs at the right.

And all led by the resident retired ballerina.

The work week is an obvious ploy by the left to push those to an early retirement. It's a valid complaint. Even with the decision to put in the hours Congress is still not getting anything done. And the all the bickering and time wasted on censuring Rush and what not is really where that 11% approval is coming from.

:mad: