Another Rumor...

[Unchainme]

"Warner Brothers has worked out a deal to issue a "Kissology" style DVD set of Van Halen material. It would be a multi-disc set with all early promotional videos, including Running With The Devil, You Really Got Me and Pretty Woman (which, as we all know, were left off the "Video Hits" release), the long-lost Showtime Concert, US Festival footage and various other odds and ends.

Basically, the idea is to make it a collection of pre-1984 Van Halen material, and go with the same idea as KISS did, which is that the quality of the footage isn't as important when you give them so much material."


http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/new-unconfirmed-vh-rumor-t40749.html

This does seem plausible at this point and would be an Awesome kickass idea!

PLEASE GOD..LET THIS HAPPEN! :)

[Dan]

It Would Be A Start For Now.:)

[Grant]

If true...Sweet. :cool:

[Diamondjimi]

Fingers crossed !

[Panamark]

This, then a new album, then a public burning of a Sammy effigy
by the current band. You know it makes sense !

[VanHalener]

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[Dan]

And Then A World Tour.:D

[Grant]

Originally posted by Dan
And Then A World Tour.:D

And we'll have a few glasses of milk with Edward after the gigs. :D

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by VanHalener
http://i10.tinypic.com/2w1sdbn.gif

What he said...

[tubbyk]

That would be Awesomeness X 1000000. Surely they have to release a DVD of the old stuff at some point. Look at the way fans are eating up the crappy YouTube clips. If they clean up some of the old clips I'm sure everyone would buy them even if they're not brilliant quality.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Um, sure, for those that don't have those videos already, I'm sure it'll be a great set...

But on first read, doesn't sound like there's very much stuff that fans can't readily get right now.....

The "Showtime concert" was just the overdubbed US Festival songs, was it not ??

Those other videos are not exactly "rare" either....

Am I missing something ??

[DlocRoth]

Yep...that's what I was thinking......

[thome]

Put it all in a box set and please have the footage be quality!!! I would throw a benjamin at this.

Add a current pro-shot of the set list(vid) from varied cities of this tour.

[chi-town324]

yep most have seen or heard this already...i mean the hard core fans like us

[dave_is_vh]

If you think about it DVDs are really the only way for them to make money other than touring and touring is fun but a pain in the ass.

If they release a new studio CD or a live CD set they won't make much money from it due to piracy.

However most people do not know how to pirate DVDs, so a DVD or DVD set would actually make good money for them.

They are probably waiting till after the tour so that people do not buy the DVDs instead of going to the concert.

[WACF]

I agree that we would of seen most of this stuff.

I'd still buy it though....

[cMb]

Wouldn't Warner own the masters of all the promo clips, since they most likely financed them? Some of those orginal tapes could be long gone by now.

Does VH even have any kind of album deal with WB right now?

I thought no label wanted anything to do with them after the VH III fiasco unless they got Dave back...

[Antman]

Once they completely digitally remove Mikey from all the footage and replace with Wolfie, it will be released.

[binnie]

I hope that this is true...

[FORD]

If they (WB or whomever) released a remastered 5.1 Dolby Pro Logic whatever kick ass version, then it will sell.

If they do it like Kiss did it, what's the fucking point? That's nothing more than Chaim Witz legally selling bootlegs.

I don't need another copy of Us Festival, or Largo 1982 if all I'm paying for is a corporate logo.

If it actually looks and sounds better, then that's different.

Same answer if the long rumored audio box set ever sees the light of day.

[Little Lamont]

I gotta have a DVD from the 2007 tour. This new VH is so fuckin' good, I don't care about the US Festival anymore.

[FORD]

Originally posted by cMb
Wouldn't Warner own the masters of all the promo clips, since they most likely financed them? Some of those orginal tapes could be long gone by now.

Does VH even have any kind of album deal with WB right now?

I thought no label wanted anything to do with them after the VH III fiasco unless they got Dave back...

Since the only material released under the name "Van Halen" in the last decade were the three Hagar trainwrecks from the pointless "Best of Both Worlds" compilation, it would seem that WB is only intrested if old material is involved.

But after VDIII, who could blame them?

My gut feeling is that the reason Van HALEN is on the road right now, rather than in the studio, is that they wanted to prove they could still deliver as a band, which was not taken for granted after Ed's performance in 2004.

Now that the tour is selling out and getting great reviews, they will be in a better negotiating position with record labels, whether WB or someone else.

[Terry]

Originally posted by Unchainme
"Warner Brothers has worked out a deal to issue a "Kissology" style DVD set of Van Halen material. It would be a multi-disc set with all early promotional videos, including Running With The Devil, You Really Got Me and Pretty Woman (which, as we all know, were left off the "Video Hits" release), the long-lost Showtime Concert, US Festival footage and various other odds and ends.

Basically, the idea is to make it a collection of pre-1984 Van Halen material, and go with the same idea as KISS did, which is that the quality of the footage isn't as important when you give them so much material."


http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/new-unconfirmed-vh-rumor-t40749.html

This does seem plausible at this point and would be an Awesome kickass idea!

PLEASE GOD..LET THIS HAPPEN! :)

At the very fucking LEAST the band can cobble together a dvd with ALL the CVH promo vids and the US Fest.

And agreed that would make a good START...

CVH could easily put out a 3 disc DVD set if they're going along with the KISSology motif of quantity vs. quality, although frankly I'd rather see both quality AND quantity from a CVH dvd release.

Basically boils down to either the band is gonna make an effort to put it out officially and make an investment in terms of time and money to ensure some quality control, and reap the financial rewards from it...

or

I'm just gonna keep scooping up whatever I can get my hands on via bootlegs and the band won't get a nickel from me (and although it wouldn't upset me to not hand over any money to Deadward and his sister, I have no qualms about throwing a few bucks Dave's way).

[estang74]

This would be bad ass if VH released something like this

Kathy McCabe of Australia's The Daily Telegraph reports that AC/DC is poised to shatter international sales records with the release of a definitive live retrospective DVD collection "Plug Me In" this week.

More than 500,000 copies have already been ordered worldwide for the concert footage compilation which is being released in North America on Tuesday, October 16.

Fans can preview some of the rare footage exclusively online with The Daily Telegraph, starting today with a blistering "Rock n' Roll Damnation" featuring late frontman Bon Scott at the Apollo Theatre in Glasgow in April 1978. Watch the clip below.

The first AC/DC release since the band came to Columbia Records earlier this year, the AC/DC "Plug Me In" DVD collection (regular box artwork, collector's edition artwork) brings together for the very first time an astonishing five hours of definitive live concert and television performances — many of them previously unavailable — chronicling the ongoing career (now in its fourth decade!) of a groundbreaking rock and roll powerhouse whose music transcends the test of time.

"AC/DC has delivered the most dynamic rock and roll music in the world," said Steve Barnett, Chairman, Columbia Records. "Columbia is honored to be releasing this definitive career-spanning retrospective featuring many of AC/DC's finest filmed performances."

Disc One of the AC/DC "Plug Me In" DVD collection begins with a performance of "High Voltage" performed in October 1975 on Australia's "King of Pop" awards show. The first disc of "Plug Me In" is devoted to the band's formative years (1975-1979) with the late Bon Scott capturing the group in its full early glory with more than 20 performances including rare black-and-white video footage of the notorious St. Albans High School concert on March 3, 1976; the very first UK television appearance in July 1976; pristine live full-color stereo concert performances from Glasgow and Essex University in 1978; and three songs — including the very first public performance of "Highway To Hell" — from Netherlands television in 1979. Bonus material on Disc One includes a Bon Scott interview from November 1977; extraordinary band interviews from 1976; and four songs recorded live in Nice on December 15, 1979, one of Bon Scott's last concerts with the band before his tragic death on February 19, 1980.

Disc Two of the AC/DC "Plug Me In" DVD collection covers the band's second great epoch: the Brian Johnson era which began with the release of "Back In Black" in 1980 and continues to this day. In addition to more than 20 performances drawn from three decades of concerts around the world — including an extremely rare Japanese television appearance from February 1981, blistering '80s and '90s sets from Detroit to Moscow, incredible footage from 1996's "Ballbreaker" tour (including the "Beavis & Butthead" intro), and 21st century barnburners in Paris, Munich, and Toronto — "Plug Me In" includes a fantastic array of bonus material including the AC/DC Donnington interview on the "Old Grey Whistle Test" (August 1984) and AC/DC's in-concert performance of "Rock Me Baby" with THE ROLLING STONES.

A deluxe collector's edition of "Plug Me In" — containing a third DVD of 21 additional rare performances spanning both the Bon Scott and Brian Johnson eras as well as a treasure trove of facsimile reproductions of authentic AC/DC memorabilia — will also be available for a limited time beginning Tuesday, October 16.

AC/DC "Plug Me In" track listing:

DVD 1 (2 hours 22 mins):

01. High Voltage (King Of Pop awards) - October 1975 (4:02)
02. It's A Long Way To The Top (If You Wanna Rock 'N' Roll) (Bandstand) (4:41)
03. School Days (St Albans) - March 1976 (5:40)
04. TNT (St Albans) - March 1976 (4:46)
05. Live Wire (Rollin Bolan) - July 1976 (6:12)
06. Can I Sit Next To You Girl (Rollin Bolan) - July 1976 (4:14)
07. Baby Please Don't Go (Melbourne) - December 1976 (11:49)
08. Hell Ain't A Bad Place To Be (Sight & Sound) - October 1977 (5:13)
09. Rocker (Sight and Sound) - October 1977 (8:10)
10. Rock 'n Roll Damnation (Apollo) - April 1978 (3:44)
11. Dog Eat Dog (Apollo Glasgow) - April 1978 (4:26)
12. Let There Be Rock (Apollo) - April 1978 (8:27)
13. Problem Child (Rock Goes To College) - October 1978 (4:44)
14. Sin City (Rock Goes To College) - October 1978 (5:23)
15. Bad Boy Boogie (Rock Goes To College) - October1978 (9:06)
16. Highway To Hell (Veronika) - July 1979 (4:12)
17. The Jack (Veronika) - July 1979 (5:19)
18. Whole Lotta Rosie (Veronika) - July 1979 (5:19)

DVD 1 Bonus Footage:

* Band Interview at Airport 1976 (2:16)
* Band Interview at Covent Garden (2:27)
* "Problem Child" - Melbourne (3:56)
* "Baby Please Don't Go" (Germany, incomplete) (2:10)
* "Dirty Deeds" on Network Sounds (0:40)
* Bon Scott Interview (15:11)
* "Rock n' Roll Damnation" – Top of the Pops (2:47)
* Australian Music to the World interview in Atlanta (1:31)
* Nice Super 8 movie (3.34

AC/ DVD 2 (2 hours 30 minutes):

01. Shot Down In Flames (Tokyo) - February 1981 (3:27)
02. What Do You Do For The Money - (Tokyo) - February 1981 (2:38)
03. Shook Me All Night - February 1981 (4:55)
04. Let There Be Rock (Tokyo) - February 1981 (5:29)
05. Back In Black (Largo 81) - December 1981 (3:34)
06. TNT (Largo 81) (3:39)
07. Shoot To Thrill (Houston) - October 1983 (5:23)
08. Guns For Hire (Detroit) - November 1983 (5:24)
09. Dirty Deeds (Detroit) - November 1983 (4:12)
10. Flick Of The Switch (Largo 83) (3:27)
11. Bedlam In Belgium (Largo 83) (3:24)
12. Back In Black (USSR) - September 1991 (2:15)
13. Highway To Hell (USSR) - September 1991 (3:36)
14. Whole Lotta Rosie (USSR) - September 1991 (4:16)
15. For Those About To Rock (USSR) - September 1991 (6:52)
16. Gone Shooting (VH1 Session) - July 1996 (6:03)
17. Hail Caesar (Sydney Screen Mix) - 1996 Tour (5:43)
18. Ballbreaker (Sydney Screen Mix) - 1996 Tour (4:29)
19. Rock N Roll Ain't Noise Pollution (Sydney Screen Mix) - Tour 1996 (6:34)
20. Hard As a Rock (Stade De France) - June 2001 (5:02)
21. Hells Bells (Stade De France) - June 2001 (5:49)
22. Ride On (Stade De France) - June 2001 (6:27)
23. Stiff Upper Lip (Munich) - June 2003 (3:54)
24. Thunderstruck (Munich) - June 2003 (5:24)
25. If You Want Blood (Toronto) - July 2003 (5:35)
26. The Jack (Toronto) - July 2003 (9:50)
27. You Shook Me All Night (Toronto) - July 2003 (4:27)

DVD 2 Bonus Footage:

* Beavis and Butthead intro to Ballbreaker tour (1:16)
* "Hells Bells" in Brussells (3:40)
* Donnington BBC interview with Angus (1:03)
* Warmup for VH1 (4:20)
* "Rock Me Baby" - Jam with THE ROLLING STONES (6:43)

DVD 3 (Bonus DVD) (2 hours 7 minutes):

01. Girl's Got Rhythm (Australian TV) - 1979 (3:30)
02. She's Got Balls (St. Albans High School 76) (6:20)
03. Long Way To the Top (St Albans High School 76) (7:08)
04. Let There Be Rock (BBC Sight & Sound 77) (5:57)
05. Bad Boy Boogie (Apollo Glasgow 78) (7:49)
06. House Is On Fire (Detroit 83) (3:06)
07. Guns For Hire (Band rehearsals 84) (3:50)
08. Boogey Man (Sydney 96) (10:49)
09. Girl's Got Rhythm (Sydney 96) (4:08)
10. Highway to Hell (Dublin 1996) (7:01)
11. Let There Be Rock (Stuttgart 2000) (10:55)
12. Angus Statue Intro (Stiff Upper Lip Tour Film 2001) (1:26)

Live at Houston Summit 83 (Whole Concert segment runs 53 minutes):

01. Guns For Hire (5:31)
02. Shoot To Thrill (5:32)
03. Sin City (5:24)
04. House Is On Fire (3:58)
05. Back In Black (4:12)
06. Bad Boy Boogie (14:33)
07. Rock 'n Roll Ain't Noise Pollution (5:07)
08. Flick Of The Switch (3:25)
09. Hells Bells (5:24)

The AC/DC "Plug Me In" DVD box set is both a Holy Grail for aficionados of AC/DC as well as an ideal and comprehensive introduction to the music and history of a pioneering band that continues to define the electrifying possibilities of rock and roll.

[DrGrafenberg]

I bet there's plenty of footage we have not seen from VH early days but to expect clips from 70's & 80's to be of real quality is foolish!
Back then we didn't have the teknollidgy :p
"you can't polish a turd!"

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by DrGrafenberg
I bet there's plenty of footage we have not seen from VH early days but to expect clips from 70's & 80's to be of real quality is foolish!
Back then we didn't have the teknollidgy :p
"you can't polish a turd!"

You mean like Led Zeppelin footage in their polished-turd DVD?

Yeah, all footage, shot on real film, sucks.:rolleyes:

[dave_is_vh]

Originally posted by FORD
Since the only material released under the name "Van Halen" in the last decade were the three Hagar trainwrecks from the pointless "Best of Both Worlds" compilation, it would seem that WB is only intrested if old material is involved.

But after VDIII, who could blame them?

My gut feeling is that the reason Van HALEN is on the road right now, rather than in the studio, is that they wanted to prove they could still deliver as a band, which was not taken for granted after Ed's performance in 2004.

Now that the tour is selling out and getting great reviews, they will be in a better negotiating position with record labels, whether WB or someone else.

You've got it backwards. The money is made on the touring not on the CDs. If they release a CD it will get pirated. The money is in touring, merchandise, and DVDs.

[jharp84]

Fuck tha videos! We all have them! Or should! Put Oakland 1981, 1980 Invasion documentary and re-mastered US festival and/or South american shows pro-shot for argentina/brazil tv and I'm really gettin GREEDY now! A pro-shot 1984 show!

[dave_is_vh]

Do pro shot 1984 tour shows exist? THAT would be the ultimate!

[jharp84]

Noel Monk! Former manager circa 1978-1984 Is stated to have a pro-shot concert from each tour! I don't think that is an unreasonable concept!

[dave_is_vh]

MTV broadcasted a Van Halen pro shot concert during the 1984 tour as part of its "Saturday Night Concert" series. But I do not know if it was an actual 1984 tour show. It may have been US Festival or Diver Down South America or something like that. Does anyone remember seeing what MTV broadcast? Was it a 1984 tour show?

If a 1984 tour pro shot exists we must bust Eddie's ass until he releases it on DVD!

[Antman]

VH was never featured on Saturday Night Concerts. If they were, it'd be all over you tube and here.

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by dave_is_vh

If a 1984 tour pro shot exists we must bust Eddie's ass until he releases it on DVD!

Why, so we can watch Dave breakdance and moonwalk across the stage in better quality ??

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by Panamark
This, then a new album, then a public burning of a Sammy effigy
by the current band. You know it makes sense !

Just an effigy?

Are you becoming soft...?:)

[chi-town324]

never heard of it

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Unless he's referring to the Lost Weekend, which was '84....

[dave_is_vh]

Originally posted by Antman
VH was never featured on Saturday Night Concerts. If they were, it'd be all over you tube and here.

You are 100% incorrect.

[dave_is_vh]

Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
Unless he's referring to the Lost Weekend, which was '84....

What is "Lost Weekend"?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by dave_is_vh
You are 100% incorrect.

You have no idea what you are talking about...

There's nothing of that in the bootleg circles...

[Terry]

There was never a 1984 show broadcast in its entirety.

[Halen High]

I would prefer VH to release stuff individually, rather than in a box set. Give each release its own 'life'. Like a DVD of the Oakland'81 show(s) with current interviews from Dave, Eddie and Alex giving their thoughts on the band during that tour.

They could do this for years and gradually introduce the CVH era to future generatons, who after reading the great reviews in various music publications, would more likely go out and buy a more affordable single release to check it out.

Like the Eagles and Led Zep have done in recent years.

[dave_is_vh]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
You have no idea what you are talking about...

There's nothing of that in the bootleg circles...

You people need to learn how to read. I did not say there was a 1984 show broadcast on MTV. I said that there was a Van Halen concert broadcast on MTV DURING the 1984 tour. However that show was probably US Festival or Diver Down I would guess. However I do not know because I was an 11 year old in camp and they would not let us stay up late enough to watch it!

[Halen High]

Originally posted by dave_is_vh
MTV broadcasted a Van Halen pro shot concert during the 1984 tour as part of its "Saturday Night Concert" series. But I do not know if it was an actual 1984 tour show. It may have been US Festival or Diver Down South America or something like that. Does anyone remember seeing what MTV broadcast? Was it a 1984 tour show?

If a 1984 tour pro shot exists we must bust Eddie's ass until he releases it on DVD!

That's interesting. Back in '84 I remember watching a music TV show here called 'Music Express', which was on Saturday afternoons for about 3 or 4 hours (Panamark and other Aussies might recall this show). During one of these episodes they played a VH concert from their current tour and I'm sure the host said it was from Montreal. I actually recorded it on an old Beta video tape and had it for a few years before losing it!!!

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by dave_is_vh
You people need to learn how to read. I did not say there was a 1984 show broadcast on MTV. I said that there was a Van Halen concert broadcast on MTV DURING the 1984 tour. However that show was probably US Festival or Diver Down I would guess. However I do not know because I was an 11 year old in camp and they would not let us stay up late enough to watch it!

Nice back peddle attempt, but US Festival was only broadcast on Showtime.. The only 1984 era proshot was for the song "Hot For Teacher" at Donnington, UK. And that's not even great quality...

[Halen High]

Originally posted by dave_is_vh
You people need to learn how to read. I did not say there was a 1984 show broadcast on MTV. I said that there was a Van Halen concert broadcast on MTV DURING the 1984 tour. However that show was probably US Festival or Diver Down I would guess. However I do not know because I was an 11 year old in camp and they would not let us stay up late enough to watch it!

Yeah you could be right. I can't 100% absolutely say it was from the 1984 tour, but it was definately a pro-shot played during that tour on a show here that always played the latest live stuff going on around the world, and I'm pretty sure the host said it was Montreal.

[dave_is_vh]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Nice back peddle attempt, but US Festival was only broadcast on Showtime.. The only 1984 era proshot was for the song "Hot For Teacher" at Donnington, UK. And that's not even great quality...

Back PEDAL? You really need reading (and spelling) lessons. I just restated what I said at the top of this page. Also if you think you know everything that was ever broadcast on any channel with Van Halen you are on crack. You may be on crack anyway.

[dave_is_vh]

Originally posted by Halen High
Yeah you could be right. I can't 100% absolutely say it was from the 1984 tour, but it was definately a pro-shot played during that tour on a show here that always played the latest live stuff going on around the world, and I'm pretty sure the host said it was Montreal.

PLEASE try to find the beta video!

[Nickdfresh]

There is absolutely no Van Halen proshot from the 1984 tour that was shown on TV or that ever made it out beyond a serious hoarding collector...

There is of course the "Quorum at the Forum," from Montreal which is poor, but forgivable, quality...

Although, I've heard a rumor that a cross between a proshot/audience of high quality exists from Buffalo's Memorial Auditorium that was shot from a box using a camera from the Sabres broadcasts I believe, but that's strictly rumor...

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by dave_is_vh
Back PEDAL? You really need reading (and spelling) lessons. I just restated what I said at the top of this page. Also if you think you know everything that was ever broadcast on any channel with Van Halen you are on crack. You may be on crack anyway.

Um douche bag, if it was on TV, it would have been recorded, and yes I know the lineage of US Fest, and it was Showtime's turf and Van Halen was reportedly very unhappy with their drunken performance. The retouched about four songs, that may have been played, but I've never heard of the concert being rebroadcast as a whole, and the four songs were circulated on the radio.

And even if you were eleven, you couldn't figure out the difference from the 1983 US Festival show and a 1984 show? You either saw the Oakland videos or maybe the four Diver Down era songs. But did you hear "Jump," or "Panama," idiot?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by dave_is_vh
[B]MTV broadcasted a Van Halen pro shot concert during the 1984 tour as part of its "Saturday Night Concert" series....

They "broadcasted" it, did they?

Oh, I "need spelling lessons" fuckbag? Right after you learn basic grammar, pooky...

[Panamark]

Originally posted by Halen High
That's interesting. Back in '84 I remember watching a music TV show here called 'Music Express', which was on Saturday afternoons for about 3 or 4 hours (Panamark and other Aussies might recall this show). During one of these episodes they played a VH concert from their current tour and I'm sure the host said it was from Montreal. I actually recorded it on an old Beta video tape and had it for a few years before losing it!!!

I remember seeing some pro footage on a Saturday
afternoon music show, I seem to remember
"Hear about it Later..."
Probably Oakland ?

[Nickdfresh]

The Oakland stuff was in full force from late 1983 to 84' or 85' on MTV. That I do remember...

And there may have been four songs from US Fest that were used as vids, but I don't recall seeing that...

And the Donnington thing was a cut from MTV Europe, and the mono sound kind of blows on it...

[dave_is_vh]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Um douche bag, if it was on TV, it would have been recorded, and yes I know the lineage of US Fest, and it was Showtime's turf and Van Halen was reportedly very unhappy with their drunken performance. The retouched about four songs, that may have been played, but I've never heard of the concert being rebroadcast as a whole, and the four songs were circulated on the radio.

And even if you were eleven, you couldn't figure out the difference from the 1983 US Festival show and a 1984 show? You either saw the Oakland videos or maybe the four Diver Down era songs. But did you hear "Jump," or "Panama," idiot?

Again, if you had read my post before attacking you would see that I did not see the concert, I just knew about it since I saw the ads on MTV and people were talking about it.

[jharp84]

Now this has my attention! JFC!! Don't think any pro-footage of CVH 1984 out there ....Yet! There is also a Las Vegas Boot! Similar to Montreal! I'll have to ask Carmine in a few .. I think he's a "boot" head! Yes I am goin to the show tonight! FUCK! FUCK! AND FUCK YEAH!!

[Vinnie Velvet]

Originally posted by dave_is_vh
MTV broadcasted a Van Halen pro shot concert during the 1984 tour as part of its "Saturday Night Concert" series. But I do not know if it was an actual 1984 tour show. It may have been US Festival or Diver Down South America or something like that. Does anyone remember seeing what MTV broadcast? Was it a 1984 tour show?

If a 1984 tour pro shot exists we must bust Eddie's ass until he releases it on DVD!

Not sure if I remember that.

Although its possible there may be a complete '84 Monsters of Rock Donnigton show.

[jharp84]

Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
Not sure if I remember that.

Although its possible there may be a complete '84 Monsters of Rock Donnigton show.

THERE SHOULD BE! DAMN!! Anyhoo! Gotta go now! I'M OFF TO SEE THE WIZARD!!!! :D

[binnie]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh


And the Donnington thing was a cut from MTV Europe, and the mono sound kind of blows on it...

I seem to remember that it's shot from some really weird angles too...

[fassa]

The Donnington (Monsters of rock) is part of a 30 min show including Motley crue backstage, Ac/Dc interview, Dave/Alex interview and part of Hot for teacher live.
No other livefootage was shown from the VH set.

Swedish television did a 10 minutes from Rasunda stadium in Stockholm. This included a interview with Dave+part of Jump live.

But the Buenos Aires and Sao Paulo was aired on tv in South America in 83.

[Nickdfresh]

Well, they did shoot the full song though:

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Pretty close to the only known proshot live footage of the 1984 tour sadly...

But there's bound to be quite a bit in Ed's vault...

[dave_is_vh]

There is pro shot 1984 tour video in the Panama music video. An entire concert must exist.

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Well, they did shoot the full song though:

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Pretty close to the only known proshot live footage of the 1984 tour sadly...

But there's bound to be quite a bit in Ed's vault...

It was a shortened set since VH were not the headlining act that day, just an hour or so.

6 bands played in an incredible lineup, one of the best ever AC/DC, Van Halen, Ozzy Osbourne, Gary Moore, Y&T, Accept, Motley Crue

I was too young to travel to England to see it but I did listen to every act which was pro recorded and played on BBC radio an act a week on the subsequent weekly Friday Rock Shows EXCEPT Van Halen who did not allow it.

The live footage of HFT comes from a TV show at the time which included a funny interview with the band prior to the show however I'm afraid that given that they didn't allow the radio recording like every other band I think it's unlikely that the whole show was recorded.

That said a few little factoids that probably even the most dedicated US bootleg people may be unaware of.

1) There was a TV show over here in the UK a few years ago on the top 10 Arena rock acts based on a number of criteria blah de blah presented by Alice Cooper. I never taped it I wish I had. In that show VH came in at #5 and apart from some decent interviews they did show maybe 30 seconds footage from that same show which was not the HFT thing.

2) Back around the time I distinctly remember some of my pals swearing that they saw footage on UK TV of Roth flip flopping onto the stage in the same way that gymnasts do when they go from corner to corner in the olympics during floor exercises. I dunno it seems a bit hard to believe now but thats what they said at the time. I never saw it.

3) If the whole show does exist you have to think it's going to be not perfect. You can see in the HFT footage the retarded camera work where the fukwit concentrates on MA during the guitar solo. This was common back then in the UK at least whereby camera guys/editors seemed to be so fucking stupid they couldn't differentiate between the bass player and the guitarist.

4) Jake E Lee was fucking awesome that day although I've long lost the tape. He said EVH came up and told him as much after the show.

Cheers!

:gulp:

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
1) There was a TV show over here in the UK a few years ago on the top 10 Arena rock acts based on a number of criteria blah de blah presented by Alice Cooper. I never taped it I wish I had. In that show VH came in at #5 and apart from some decent interviews they did show maybe 30 seconds footage from that same show which was not the HFT thing.

Probably Pretty Woman or Jump, nothing to lose sleep over...

2) Back around the time I distinctly remember some of my pals swearing that they saw footage on UK TV of Roth flip flopping onto the stage in the same way that gymnasts do when they go from corner to corner in the olympics during floor exercises. I dunno it seems a bit hard to believe now but thats what they said at the time. I never saw it.

Based on everything i've ever heard, read, or know about Van Halen and David Lee Roth - No way do I believe that one...

3) If the whole show does exist you have to think it's going to be not perfect. You can see in the HFT footage the retarded camera work where the fukwit concentrates on MA during the guitar solo. This was common back then in the UK at least whereby camera guys/editors seemed to be so fucking stupid they couldn't differentiate between the bass player and the guitarist.

You would think that by 1984, even a cameraman who hated music would know which one was Edward Van Halen...

Drugs are bad...

4) Jake E Lee was fucking awesome that day although I've long lost the tape. He said EVH came up and told him as much after the show.

Alcohol is bad...;)

Cheers!

:gulp:


Cheers!


:elvis:

[TVGUY]

A nice box set would be outstanding. The set should include DVD's of old footage.. some 2007 tour stuff.. a new album.. a maybe an apology to fans for screwing with us for 20 plus years!!!

[jharp84]

I have a boot of the VH Donnington show! Very hard to watch! Worst quality yet! But someone filmed it!

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by jharp84
I have a boot of the VH Donnington show! Very hard to watch! Worst quality yet! But someone filmed it!

That's audience...

Proshot (by a camera crew or at least by someone with professional level tech) is what we're talking about...

It is probable that there are quite a few videos of the tour that were shot as camera crews were present at many shows. As far as anyone knows (and I AM NOT an expert on VH bootlegs) is that Van Halen was planning on putting out a live video of either the best show filmed, or a composite of shows to be released, sometime in 1985 or along with the release of 1984's follow up. Because so many proshot and FM boots of the Diver Down "Hide Your Sheep" tour (I can think of four off hand) surfaced, the band's security goons clamped down on all tapes and watched the soundboard like hawks to insure nothing live got out. But of course, the split happened...

Instead, we got "Live Without a Net," as Van Hagar was not about to release any additional material featuring Dave as the singer. That's basically what I've gathered anyways... The only rumor I know of a tape existing is the one I've posted, that somebody with connections to the Buffalo Sabres' NHL organization was able to tape a one-angle, but high quality, shot video from a box of the Van Halen concert in March of 1984 at Buffalo's Memorial Aud. But I've never heard anything more.

I do in fact know a guy who directed Sabre's game broadcasts as well as Hockey Night in Canada for a time in the 1980s. I've often thought of calling him, but it would be a bit awkward, and I doubt he knows anything about it...

[Figs]

Golly, I hope they don't box up Hagar shit with Dave material.

I'd probably wait for reviews from you folks here to see if it is much better than the boots. Oakland 81 (or anything 81 would be great).

[VAiN]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
's basically what I've gathered anyways... The only rumor I know of a tape existing is the one I've posted, that somebody with connections to the Buffalo Sabres' NHL organization was able to tape a one-angle, but high quality, shot video from a box of the Van Halen concert in March of 1984 at Buffalo's Memorial Aud. But I've never heard anything more.

I do in fact know a guy who directed Sabre's game broadcasts as well as Hockey Night in Canada for a time in the 1980s. I've often thought of calling him, but it would be a bit awkward, and I doubt he knows anything about it...

Something like that would be up there with an Oakland 81 to me for sure..

[Dave's PA Rental]

Originally posted by dave_is_vh
There is pro shot 1984 tour video in the Panama music video. An entire concert must exist.

My brothers told me that they filmed the Panama video after one of the Providence 84 shows...

Also, the Van Halen Encyclopedia says that 'Warner Brothers films [both Largo 84 shows]'...I would take that as pro shot.

And isnt Alex the pack-rat with all the video in the vault?

[dave_is_vh]

Originally posted by Dave's PA Rental
My brothers told me that they filmed the Panama video after one of the Providence 84 shows...

Also, the Van Halen Encyclopedia says that 'Warner Brothers films [both Largo 84 shows]'...I would take that as pro shot.

And isnt Alex the pack-rat with all the video in the vault?

RELEASE IT MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!!!!

[Redballjets88]

Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
Um, sure, for those that don't have those videos already, I'm sure it'll be a great set...

But on first read, doesn't sound like there's very much stuff that fans can't readily get right now.....

The "Showtime concert" was just the overdubbed US Festival songs, was it not ??

Those other videos are not exactly "rare" either....

Am I missing something ??


Sure one can easily get all of the stuff in the set but it's cool to have the whole "shabang" and it's always nice to support the artist, no matter how rich they may already be.

[TheRothMan]

I even have my balls crossed for this one.

[Terry]

Originally posted by Dave's PA Rental
My brothers told me that they filmed the Panama video after one of the Providence 84 shows...

Also, the Van Halen Encyclopedia says that 'Warner Brothers films [both Largo 84 shows]'...I would take that as pro shot.

And isnt Alex the pack-rat with all the video in the vault?

I saw the St.Pat's Day 1984 Providence 1984 show, and Roth did say they were filming it, although other folks say that Dave told many audiences that and there wasn't always film in the cameras.

SERIOUSLY hope NO VAN HAGAR shit would be included in such a release.

[jharp84]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
That's audience...

Proshot (by a camera crew or at least by someone with professional level tech) is what we're talking about...

It is probable that there are quite a few videos of the tour that were shot as camera crews were present at many shows. As far as anyone knows (and I AM NOT an expert on VH bootlegs) is that Van Halen was planning on putting out a live video of either the best show filmed, or a composite of shows to be released, sometime in 1985 or along with the release of 1984's follow up. Because so many proshot and FM boots of the Diver Down "Hide Your Sheep" tour (I can think of four off hand) surfaced, the band's security goons clamped down on all tapes and watched the soundboard like hawks to insure nothing live got out. But of course, the split happened...

Instead, we got "Live Without a Net," as Van Hagar was not about to release any additional material featuring Dave as the singer. That's basically what I've gathered anyways... The only rumor I know of a tape existing is the one I've posted, that somebody with connections to the Buffalo Sabres' NHL organization was able to tape a one-angle, but high quality, shot video from a box of the Van Halen concert in March of 1984 at Buffalo's Memorial Aud. But I've never heard anything more.

I do in fact know a guy who directed Sabre's game broadcasts as well as Hockey Night in Canada for a time in the 1980s. I've often thought of calling him, but it would be a bit awkward, and I doubt he knows anything about it...

Yes Sir! I knew that as well! I just wanted to state that I have acquired a boot from that show! AMAZING ALL THE PAIN WE HAVE TO GO THRU TO GET FUCKING SHOWS W/DAVE! jfc!

[Redballjets88]

I'd still like to see a CVH box set.

[Shaun Ponsonby]

Originally posted by Antman
Once they completely digitally remove Mikey from all the footage and replace with Wolfie, it will be released.


HA!

It'll depend on who owns the footage.

If Warner's owns it, and I read an interview where Dave said it was Warner who refused to release the material, then it's essentially up to Warner.

[Shaun Ponsonby]

Although, Cato's "Napalm Up Yo Ass!!" DVD is good enough.

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by Shaun Ponsonby
I read an interview where Dave said it was Warner who refused to release the material.

And you believed it ??

[Shaun Ponsonby]

I very rarely believe anything...

I half believed him...I'm pretty sure Warners does own a lot of stuff, and I'm pretty sure Ed has a lot of stuff too.

He said something along the lines of "There should have been DVDs, box sets, the whole 12 yards, but Warners wont release it".

I dunno, at the time I'm pretty sure he would have been more pissed at Ed rather than Warners...this wasjust as the Van Hagar tour was being announced...

[scorpion73]

Michael Anthony said almost ten years ago that Van Halen had uncovered old footage dating back to the early days.They just needed to go through it and decide the proper time to release it.The problem is,just like Jimmy Page,Eddie is a perfectionist and will piss away at least a year in the studio getting the sound quality and visuals to his liking.If they are going to do it,they need to throw in the kitchen sink and have promos,foreign TV appearences,the works.Give us every piece of footage from1978-1984,outtakes and all.That would be a hell of a package.It would break all sales records.Guranteed.

[cabo anejo]

three best of ......fuck that ..wheres the 10 yrs worth of music

[Blackflag]

Screw that. Best ofs and unreleased are rip offs. How about a new album?