In Response To Ed's Tuning Issues

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  • ALMOSTsaved
    Veteran
    • Feb 2004
    • 2183
    #1

    In Response To Ed's Tuning Issues

    Since I posted my Greensboro videos on YouTube there's been a lot of fucking people bitching and moaning about Ed's tuning in "Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love" and "Jump." So in response to the negativity, I decided to post the Largo, '82 version of ATBL to show that even back then Ed would occasionally be out of tune and that the reasons for it now are not due to being fucked up or sloppy. Shit happens.

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    I like to pay close attention to the things I'll forget later...
    Tags: issues, response, tuning
    • dave_is_vh
      Sniper
      • Apr 2004
      • 920
      #2
      The high price of being a whammy bar addict.
      "Bumper sticker on my rocket's ass: go home, the earth is full." DLR

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        • Terry
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Jan 2004
          • 11956
          #3
          The whole "tuning debacle" is small potatoes.

          Not that this was the intent of anyone here commenting on it, but if one is looking for ammo to shoot down the current reunion with and this is the best one can find, then you're firing a water pistol...sans water.
          Scramby eggs and bacon.

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            • ALMOSTsaved
              Veteran
              • Feb 2004
              • 2183
              #4
              Actually my gripe was more for the people posting comments on my YouTube page...not really here. Oh, except for those starting the threads in regards to "Jump" in Greensboro. I just felt like posting my bitching here.
              I like to pay close attention to the things I'll forget later...

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                • jharp84
                  Veteran
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 2096
                  #5
                  It's all good to me Bro!

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                    • Terry
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 11956
                      #6
                      Originally posted by ALMOSTsaved
                      Actually my gripe was more for the people posting comments on my YouTube page...not really here. Oh, except for those starting the threads in regards to "Jump" in Greensboro. I just felt like posting my bitching here.
                      Agreed 100% on all counts.
                      Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                        • jhale667
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 20929
                          #7
                          Originally posted by dave_is_vh
                          The high price of being a whammy bar addict.
                          Ain't it the truth.

                          Locking trems are great, and will withstand most abuse, but when you do things like, say-
                          expose them to a rapid temperature shift, jump off a drum riser, etc., you may accidentally cause the neck to shift, and no locking system in the world will protect against that...
                          This is probably more appropriate for GEAR STREET, but I once teched for a band
                          where the guitarist (one of 2) had 6 guitars with locking trems, in 3 different tunings.
                          The stage was very close to an exit (The Viper Room in Hollyweird) and it was a winter evening. 100 degrees in the club, 40 outside.
                          Every time someone opened the door next to the guy's guitar rack, his necks would shift, and they would go slightly out of tune...I spent the whole gig retuning his shit....brutal...
                          Shoulda charged him double...
                          Originally posted by conmee
                          If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                          That is all.

                          Icon.
                          Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                          I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                          Originally posted by Isaac R.
                          Then it's really true??:eek:

                          The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                          OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                          Originally posted by eddie78
                          I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                            • Diamondjimi
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • May 2004
                              • 12086
                              #8
                              Originally posted by Terry
                              The whole "tuning debacle" is small potatoes.
                              True. Regardless of Dave begging critics to judge the show harshly.

                              What boggles my mind is, why did'nt Ed and his kid just shift their positions a half step up ? After all , Ed claims to have perfect pitch..(or was that Yngwie?) Regardless he should've caught it and adapted...

                              I stiil think his brain is half pickled from substance abuse....
                              Trolls take heed...LOG OUT & FUCK OFF!!!

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                                • Terry
                                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                                  • Jan 2004
                                  • 11956
                                  #9
                                  Originally posted by diamondjimi
                                  True. Regardless of Dave begging critics to judge the show harshly.

                                  What boggles my mind is, why did'nt Ed and his kid just shift their positions a half step up ? After all , Ed claims to have perfect pitch..(or was that Yngwie?) Regardless he should've caught it and adapted...

                                  I stiil think his brain is half pickled from substance abuse....
                                  Dunno...was it exactly a half step up?

                                  I play, although I don't have perfect pitch, but maybe it wasn't a case of just going up one fret...maybe it was between a quarter and a half step up...one could hear Ed trying to manually bend up to the synth tuning a couple of times during the performance.

                                  But longtime drinking certainly does fuck one up...

                                  Perhaps Ed can double-check the synth backing tape speed for the next series of shows PRIOR to the performance...perhaps with the aid of a...tuba? Lesfunk, back me up, here!

                                  Or Ed could just play the part LIVE on a synth...can't be THAT fucking hard to switch from that simple synth riff to the guitar solo and BACK to the synth solo (hint: I can barely play piano, but even I can pull off that tune. synth solo and all, and I didn't even WRITE the fucking thing!)
                                  Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                                    • jhale667
                                      DIAMOND STATUS
                                      • Aug 2004
                                      • 20929
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by Terry
                                      Dunno...was it exactly a half step up?
                                      Didn't sound that way to me...sounds like a half-step plus, or some weird semi-tone in bewteen...

                                      If that were the case, shifting positions would have done absolutely no good...
                                      Originally posted by conmee
                                      If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                                      That is all.

                                      Icon.
                                      Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                                      I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                                      Originally posted by Isaac R.
                                      Then it's really true??:eek:

                                      The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                                      OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                                      Originally posted by eddie78
                                      I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                                        • Diamondjimi
                                          DIAMOND STATUS
                                          • May 2004
                                          • 12086
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by jhale667
                                          Didn't sound that way to me...sounds like a half-step plus, or some weird semi-tone in bewteen...

                                          If that were the case, shifting positions would have done absolutely no good...
                                          Maybe so but it still would make it easier compensating a quarter tone bend. The point is moot anyway , I'm sure they've rectified the problem.
                                          Trolls take heed...LOG OUT & FUCK OFF!!!

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                                            • ace diamond
                                              Full Member Status

                                              • Sep 2004
                                              • 3863
                                              #12
                                              II'm sure someone got their ass chewed out after the show that night!
                                              Originally posted by hideyoursheep
                                              When Hagar speaks, I want to cut off my ears and send them to Bristol Palin.
                                              "It's like trying to fit a mouse fart into a sardine can with a shoe horn"-Ace Diamond

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                                                • HG012009
                                                  Full On Cocktard
                                                  • May 2007
                                                  • 45
                                                  #13
                                                  I'm with you from the start.... Shit happens.

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                                                    • SNIPER
                                                      Crazy Ass Mofo
                                                      • Jun 2004
                                                      • 2625
                                                      #14
                                                      Keyborad sample was set a little faster then was supposed to be so the pitch changed and made guitars sound flat. not out of tune

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                                                        • TVGUY
                                                          Head Fluffer
                                                          • Feb 2007
                                                          • 298
                                                          #15
                                                          Let me break out my microscope and overanalyze every song on the tour... WTF. It's rock and roll man!!!
                                                          Three time witness to the comeback of the MIGHTY VAN HALEN. And then they faded back into obscurity.

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